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So the FBI doesn't record interviews so they can edit the notes. Does it get any lower?

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I've yet to hear one good explanation from anyone on why that practice continues to this very day. It's amazing that they continue to use a system that not only invites fraud but at a minimum invites conflicting recollections that can never be validated via recordings.

There should be 10,000 times more outrage that this practice continues than the separation of children from their "parents" when they cross into this country illegally.

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It's mind boggling to me that they don't record interviews. Sorry, but my trust of law enforcement is no where near high enough to trust their after-the-fact notes.

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Could you not simply refuse to answer any questions without your attorney present? This is still kinda America, isn't it?

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Didn't Flynn state he wasn't even sure it was an interview?

Gotta love it...FBI just wants a quick chat, no biggie, just a few quick questions. OK great...you can leave now Flynn. Oops, Flynn, things don't look good for you according to our official 302's. Sucks to be you.

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They had been working on security clearances which the FBI was conducting during the transition. Flynn was under the assumption that was the reason for the visit.

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Prosperdick said:

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So the FBI doesn't record interviews so they can edit the notes. Does it get any lower?

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I've yet to hear one good explanation from anyone on why that practice continues to this very day. It's amazing that they continue to use a system that not only invites fraud but at a minimum invites conflicting recollections that can never be validated via recordings.

There should be 10,000 times more outrage that this practice continues than the separation of children from their "parents" when they cross into this country illegally.

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It's mind boggling to me that they don't record interviews. Sorry, but my trust of law enforcement is no where near high enough to trust their after-the-fact notes.

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Could you not simply refuse to answer any questions without your attorney present? This is still kinda America, isn't it?

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Yep. Never, ever, ever talk to any law enforcement without your attorney.

It seems Flynn had no idea he should have sought the advice of counsel.

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So the FBI doesn't record interviews so they can edit the notes. Does it get any lower?

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I've yet to hear one good explanation from anyone on why that practice continues to this very day. It's amazing that they continue to use a system that not only invites fraud but at a minimum invites conflicting recollections that can never be validated via recordings.

There should be 10,000 times more outrage that this practice continues than the separation of children from their "parents" when they cross into this country illegally.

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It's mind boggling to me that they don't record interviews. Sorry, but my trust of law enforcement is no where near high enough to trust their after-the-fact notes.

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Could you not simply refuse to answer any questions without your attorney present? This is still kinda America, isn't it?

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Yep. Never, ever, ever talk to any law enforcement without your attorney.

It seems Flynn had no idea he should have sought the advice of counsel.

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You have to, if you want a security clearance.

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Hhhmmm.

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Communications from two other FBI counterintelligence agents, described in the report as Agent 1 and Agent 5, also raise concerns.

At one point after Comey sent the Oct. 28, 2016 letter to Congress reopening the Clinton email probe, Agent 1 told Agent 5 "Not sure if Trump or fifth floor is worse." The agent said the fifth floor was a reference to the Washington field office counterintelligence leaders.

Agent 1 was described as one of two agents who conducted the questioning of Clinton on July 2 that the IG said was tainted by the inclusion of two Clinton aides who were also witnesses in the email probe.

Agent 5 was described as an experienced counterintelligence agent who worked on a "filter team" to identify privileged communications among seized FBI documents to make sure the material was not reviewed by investigators.

An FBI spokeswoman referred questions to the IG report's section containing the FBI response.

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LINK

Everyone in the counter-intel division in DC should be transferred to field offices. They need new blood in DC like yesterday.

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Going back through these conversations and their follow up explanations of what they claim they really meant vs the actual words of what they said in contrast and at times contradictory is amazing. Overall looking at their conflicting stories or memories of what really happened are such a story that this pit of snakes didn't really trust each other totally. It's a pirate ship of hoodlums.

Agent 1 and 2 are interesting, and Jim Baker really talks out of turn a lot. But his paranoia on things leaking is well documented. But it's clear Rudy's influence in the SDNY is apparent. Weiner's laptop was a real issue. More than the actual contents, but the fact that it existed ad they were about to get caught sitting on it. Comey's deniability is blown out of the water, her new from the beginning, and said so himself. A far cry from the BS he was spreading on the book tour.

Comey literally has two separate personalities on paper even. The conclusion politics had no influence on their actions is BS plain and simple. Every conversation I high light where they make direct decisions and weigh out the choices based on political impact.

Damn, Roscoe, you're making my eyes bleed!

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So the FBI doesn't record interviews so they can edit the notes. Does it get any lower?

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thats actually the one standard procedure they followed. they wont record and wont interview you if YOU record, because they rely on their interview notes to testify from to convict people.

different reasoning of course, for comrade hillary.

Let me see if I can get this right at a really basic level:

They had the Weiner laptop and thought there might be something significant on it, but since they didn't "have time" to get it analyzed before the election, they chose to put it aside.

SDNY new they had the laptop and that there was potentially relevant information on it, but since the Midyear team figured the SDNY would leak it to Rudy, they knew they had to get out in front of the matter to avoid suspicions.

Comey knew it was a risky move, but thought it was better to "clear the deck" for Hillary and dispell any rumors that there was anything to worry about with the investigation.


Bout right?

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Let me see if I can get this right at a really basic level:

They had the Weiner laptop and thought there might be something significant on it, but since they didn't "have time" to get it analyzed before the election, they chose to put it aside.

SDNY new they had the laptop and that there was potentially relevant information on it, but since the Midyear team figured the SDNY would leak it to Rudy, they knew they had to get out in front of the matter to avoid suspicions.

Comey knew it was a risky move, but thought it was better to "clear the deck" for Hillary and dispell any rumors that there was anything to worry about with the investigation.


Bout right?

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I can finally say a nice thing about Comey...it's very likely that act saved the lives of several SDNY agents because we know how Hillary would have dealt with it.

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Let me see if I can get this right at a really basic level:

They had the Weiner laptop and thought there might be something significant on it, but since they didn't "have time" to get it analyzed before the election, they chose to put it aside.

SDNY new they had the laptop and that there was potentially relevant information on it, but since the Midyear team figured the SDNY would leak it to Rudy, they knew they had to get out in front of the matter to avoid suspicions.

Comey knew it was a risky move, but thought it was better to "clear the deck" for Hillary and dispell any rumors that there was anything to worry about with the investigation.


Bout right?

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That's my take on it anyway. They were doing damage control not investigation when it comes to the Weiner laptop. And I am never buying they went through 600k emails in 5 days, not buying it at all.

If I was basing my assessment on Comey's written testimony only, I would say that he was upset/disappointed with his team and then just went into damage control mode as soon as he found out.

However, after watching that sanctimonious ***** on TV, it wouldn't surprise me if he was complicit from early on.

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If I was basing my assessment on Comey's written testimony only, I would say that he was upset/disappointed with his team and then just went into damage control mode as soon as he found out.

However, after watching that sanctimonious ***** on TV, it wouldn't surprise me if he was complicit from early on.

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Had I been placed in Comey's supposed position where my subordinates withheld evidence from me, I would have fired or at least reassigned them. The fact that he took no action tells me he knew all along and was running out the clock but the NYPD and SDNY were pushing the issue and alerted Main Justice. Containment had been lost.

His options were limited at that point. It was the fear of the leaks.

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Exactly Comey's deniability is blown out of the water, he new from the beginning,

https://themarketswork.com/2018/03/14/new-details-of-victoria-nulands-role-in-the-steele-dossier/

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...My guess is we will be hearing more from Victoria Nuland....

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Jeff Carlson with more details on Victoria Nuland.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/06/mueller-investigation-obstruction-ig-report-should-end/

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So the obstruction investigation should be closed. Should Special Counsel Mueller fail to close it, Deputy Attorney General Rosenstein ought to be summoned by Congress to testify, specifically on this question: If the Justice Department accepts IG Horowitz's premise that it must not second-guess the discretionary decision-making of FBI and Department officials when there are legitimate grounds to support their decisions, on what basis may a special counsel second-guess the president's decision-making when -- as Rosenstein himself has argued with respect to Comey -- there are legitimate grounds to support the president's decisions?

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A no knock on Perkins Coie would cause the biggest meltdown from the left in history

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Sessions doesn't have the balls, because Rosenstein has them in his freezer. The FEC won't do anything and all need to be fired. from that committee.

Mueller has unfettered access to Perkins, Coie communications, should he actually be doing his job to track down Russian activities, including disinformation given to Hillary. All firms of that size over bill to meet their monthly costs.

That's chump change to Hillary and to that firm. Any of the partners could pay it with their phones.

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Now explain again, exactly WHY has Sessions not been canned as impotent if ineffective? That is what executive power is all about. FDR fired dozens of admirals of greater seniority to put Nimitz in charge of the Pacific Fleet because he had the temperament for the job. Trump is generally good about firing the useless--- so what makes the DOJ impervious??????????

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Now explain again, exactly WHY has Sessions not been canned as impotent if ineffective?

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If Trump fires Sessions, the Senate has already said they will not approve a replacement, which would leave Rosenstein in charge of the DOJ. If Trump fires him as well, the left, media, and many Republicans will scream "Saturday Night Massacre" and begin impeachment proceedings.

Carlson's work is so underrated, this guy has the tuning fork on this scandal

Correct me if I'm wrong, but the idea behind Strozk still having a job was that the IG could interview him without a subpoena, correct?

If he's done with the reports.. No more need for Strozk to be employed?

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but the idea behind Strozk still having a job was that the IG could interview him without a subpoena, correct?

If he's done with the reports.. No more need for Strozk to be employed?

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Yes. BUT, as long as he's still employed, Rosenstein can block him from testifying before Congress.

Sooo, hard to say which factor is in play at this time.

ETA: Lost his security clearance? He's toast any day now.

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Now explain again, exactly WHY has Sessions not been canned as impotent if ineffective?

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If Trump fires Sessions, the Senate has already said they will not approve a replacement, which would leave Rosenstein in charge of the DOJ. If Trump fires him as well, the left, media, and many Republicans will scream "Saturday Night Massacre" and begin impeachment proceedings.

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But Rosenstein appears genuinely corrupt and conflict of interest, whereas Sessions is just afflicted with Boehner-manner. It is truly amazing what a bad design the DOJ has proven to be this century for bringing any accountability.

Well, if he's losing his security clearance.. Maybe firing is the next step?

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If Trump fires Sessions, the Senate has already said they will not approve a replacement, which would leave Rosenstein in charge of the DOJ. If Trump fires him as well, the left, media, and many Republicans will scream "Saturday Night Massacre" and begin impeachment proceedings.

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But Rosenstein appears genuinely corrupt and conflict of interest, whereas Sessions is just afflicted with Boehner-manner. It is truly amazing what a bad design the DOJ has proven to be this century for bringing any accountability.

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Yeah, I'm not convinced Sessions is a black hat (but nothing would surprise me), but Rosenstein is as swampy as they come.

When Sessions does go, I hope Trump picks someone like a state AG or solicitor general who has absolutely no ties to Washington D.C. This is what he should have done to replace Comey; get someone like the head of the Texas Rangers.

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Surely if begun now, it would FAIL? Hard to imagine the Republicans blowing up their own ship like that. If they impeached Trump would never vote for one again -- no matter what the adversary - ahem, loyal opposition - does.

If he is impeached Trump needs to declassify *everything* not related to winning wars and dump it-- smoke out the entire lot.

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If Trump fires him as well, the left, media, and many Republicans will scream "Saturday Night Massacre" and begin impeachment proceedings.

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Surely if begun now, it would FAIL? Hard to imagine the Republicans blowing up their own ship like that. If they impeached Trump would never vote for one again -- no matter what the adversary - ahem, loyal opposition - does.

If he is impeached Trump needs to declassify *everything* not related to winning wars and dump it-- smoke out the entire lot.

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Republicans would rather be in the minority. Much easier to have nothing to do, except make promises to do something if you'll vote for them.

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Well, if he's losing his security clearance.. Maybe firing is the next step?

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The fact that he's a civil servant and not an appointee, the union CBA requires him to clear the OPM process to be terminated. It's an idiotic timely process. Makes the AFL/CIO look streamlined.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1009901127444455424.html

Very interesting thread. Perhaps the person who supplied Hillary &/or Sidney Blumenthal with unauthorized classified intel/SAP materials has been outed & prosecuted -- hopefully we will eventually find out. Also, it becomes more clear why Trump choose Dana Boentes as AAG prior to Sessions approval by the Senate, and why Boentes may be Trump's choice to replace Sessions should he leave/resign.

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1950-2018

Big Loss

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Here.

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1950-2018

Big Loss

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