Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Secolobo said:

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Prosperdick said:

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I'll be REALLY generous and say 17,000 texts were relationship based which leaves ~20,000 texts missing in major gaps of time.

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I've been married 20 years and haven't texted my wife that often...

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sure... but what about your GF/side piece?

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Zombie Jon Snow said:

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Secolobo said:

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Prosperdick said:

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I'll be REALLY generous and say 17,000 texts were relationship based which leaves ~20,000 texts missing in major gaps of time.

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I've been married 20 years and haven't texted my wife that often...

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sure... but what about your GF/side piece?

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WASHINGTON The Obama White House's chief cyber official testified Wednesday that proposals he was developing to counter Russia's attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a "back burner" after he was ordered to "stand down" his efforts in the summer of 2016.

The comments by Michael Daniel, who served as White House "cyber security coordinator" between 2012 and January of last year, provided his first public confirmation of a much-discussed passage in the book, "Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump," co-written by this reporter and David Corn, that detailed his thwarted efforts to respond to the Russian attack.

They came during a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing into how the Obama administration dealt with Russian cyber and information warfare attacks in 2016, an issue that has become one of the more politically sensitive subjects in the panel's ongoing investigation into Russia's interference in the U.S. election and any links to the Trump campaign.

The view that the Obama administration failed to adequately piece together intelligence about the Russian campaign and develop a forceful response has clearly gained traction with the intelligence committee. Sen. Mark Warner, D-Va., the ranking Democrat on the panel, said in an opening statement that "we were caught flat-footed at the outset and our collective response was inadequate to meet Russia's escalation."

That conclusion was reinforced Wednesday by another witness, Victoria Nuland, who served as assistant secretary of state for Europe during the Obama administration. She told the panel that she had been briefed as early as December 2015 about the hacking of the Democratic National Committee long before senior DNC officials were aware of it and that the intrusion had all the hallmarks of a Russian operation.

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RoscoePColtrane said:

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Well the FBI/DOJ did manage to indict a dirty Judge

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Not certain what to make of this. From the pen of Michael Isikoff. The same circular report on the dossier nonsense.

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aggiehawg said:

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Not certain what to make of this. From the pen of Michael Isikoff. The same circular report on the dossier nonsense.

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Isikoff is a shill hoar? Seems simple to me since he's been nailed by Horowitz.

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aggiehawg said:

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How did we get here? Or to be more precise, how did the FBI get here?

One decision, made several years ago in a post 9/11 world where it was decreed that power would be removed from Field Offices and concentrated in DC.

There was absolutely no reason why the Hillary email case couldn't have been handled by the SDNY. If the NY Field Office required more specialist or warm bodies, send them in.

Ditto on the Trump campaign in a joint effort with DC HQ on the Russia end of the equation. The actual COIN part. Think about it. Trump didn't have a residence in DC or Virginia during the campaign. The SDNY was likely the only one with jurisdiction back then.

That way there wouldn't have been the same small cabal of people working on both of them with the same group think.

The second consequence of that decision to centralize power in DC is that the budgets and manpower at the Field Offices became razor thin, perhaps the reason there have been so many local failures with these school shootings, Orlando nightclub, etc. Just didn't have the resources they needed as the DC bureaucracy became more and more bloated.

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aggiehawg said:

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RoscoePColtrane said:

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A no knock on Perkins Coie would cause the biggest meltdown from the left in history

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Sessions doesn't have the balls, because Rosenstein has them in his freezer. The FEC won't do anything and all need to be fired. from that committee.

Mueller has unfettered access to Perkins, Coie communications, should he actually be doing his job to track down Russian activities, including disinformation given to Hillary. All firms of that size over bill to meet their monthly costs.

That's chump change to Hillary and to that firm. Any of the partners could pay it with their phones.

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CrazyDayDuck said:

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Imagine if every GOP Congressman was like Meadows. God that would be awesome.

And what's up with Gowdy and his new Colonel Sanders look?

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aggiehawg said:

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I believe I heard Horowitz saying that the reason he couldn't identify those agents at this point in time is because they are counter-intel folks but he was working with DOJ on an accommodation on that.

More proof that Mueller is running a counter-intel operation and not a true criminal investigation.

Now, when Mueller was first appointed, I could see how those counter-intel folks who had been working the case under Comey would be helpful to get Mueller up to speed on what cyber efforts Russians had done to "meddle" in the 2016 election. But with the indictment of the Russian individuals and companies the assumption would be that their part was done.

One thing we haven't seen out of the Mueller investigation is an assessment and report on cyber security being improved for the upcoming midterms. Have portals or deficiencies been identified and the responsible agency addressed those? That might actually be useful, wouldn't it?

The concern here is Mueller having unfettered access to NSA material. Using that info to craft search warrants.

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Communications from two other FBI counterintelligence agents, described in the report as Agent 1 and Agent 5, also raise concerns.

At one point after Comey sent the Oct. 28, 2016 letter to Congress reopening the Clinton email probe, Agent 1 told Agent 5 "Not sure if Trump or fifth floor is worse." The agent said the fifth floor was a reference to the Washington field office counterintelligence leaders.

Agent 1 was described as one of two agents who conducted the questioning of Clinton on July 2 that the IG said was tainted by the inclusion of two Clinton aides who were also witnesses in the email probe.

Agent 5 was described as an experienced counterintelligence agent who worked on a "filter team" to identify privileged communications among seized FBI documents to make sure the material was not reviewed by investigators.

An FBI spokeswoman referred questions to the IG report's section containing the FBI response.

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Everyone in the counter-intel division in DC should be transferred to field offices. They need new blood in DC like yesterday.

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The Obama White House's chief cyber official testified Wednesday that proposals he was developing to counter Russia's attack on the U.S. presidential election were put on a "back burner" after he was ordered to "stand down" his efforts in the summer of 2016.

The comments by Michael Daniel, who served as White House "cyber security coordinator" between 2012 and January of last year, provided his first public confirmation of a much-discussed passage in the book, "Russian Roulette: The Inside Story of Putin's War on America and the Election of Donald Trump," co-written by this reporter and David Corn, that detailed his thwarted efforts to respond to the Russian attack.

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As intelligence came in during the late spring and early summer of that year about the Russian attack, Daniel instructed his staff on the National Security Council to begin developing options for aggressive countermeasures to deter the Kremlin's efforts, including mounting U.S. "denial of service" attacks on Russian news sites and other actions targeting Russian cyber actors.

Daniel declined to discuss the details of those options during Wednesday's open hearing, saying he would share them with the panel during a classified session later in the day. But he described his proposals as "the full range of potential actions" that the U.S. government could use in the cyber arena "to impose costs on the Russians both openly to demonstrate that we could do it as a deterrent and also clandestinely to disrupt their operations as well."

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Sen. James Risch, R-Idaho, asked about a "Russian Roulette" passage in which one of Daniel's staff members, Daniel Prieto, recounted a staff meeting shortly after the cyber coordinator was ordered by Susan Rice, President Obama's national security adviser, to stop his efforts and "stand down." This order was in part because Rice feared the options would leak and "box the president in."

"I was incredulous and in disbelief," Prieto is quoted as saying in the book. "It took me a moment to process. In my head, I was like, did I hear that correctly?" Prieto told the authors he then spoke up, asking Daniel: "Why the hell are we standing down? Michael, can you help us understand?"

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Daniel has confirmed that the account was "an accurate rendering of what happened" in his staff meeting. He said his bosses at the NSC he did not specifically mention Rice in his testimony had concerns about "how many people were working on the options" so the "decision" from his superiors at the Obama White House was to "neck down the number of people that were involved in developing our ongoing response options."

Daniel added that "it's not accurate to say that all activity ceased at that point." He and his staff "shifted our focus" to assisting state governments to protect against Russian cyberattacks against state and local election systems.

But as for his work on developing cyber deterrence measures, "those actions were put on a back burner and that was not the focus of our activity during that time period."

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bmks270 said:

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So the FBI doesn't record interviews so they can edit the notes. Does it get any lower?

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I've yet to hear one good explanation from anyone on why that practice continues to this very day. It's amazing that they continue to use a system that not only invites fraud but at a minimum invites conflicting recollections that can never be validated via recordings.

There should be 10,000 times more outrage that this practice continues than the separation of children from their "parents" when they cross into this country illegally.

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VegasAg86 said:

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Prosperdick said:

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bmks270 said:

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So the FBI doesn't record interviews so they can edit the notes. Does it get any lower?

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I've yet to hear one good explanation from anyone on why that practice continues to this very day. It's amazing that they continue to use a system that not only invites fraud but at a minimum invites conflicting recollections that can never be validated via recordings.

There should be 10,000 times more outrage that this practice continues than the separation of children from their "parents" when they cross into this country illegally.

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It's mind boggling to me that they don't record interviews. Sorry, but my trust of law enforcement is no where near high enough to trust their after-the-fact notes.

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