Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts
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He named another one. Kevin. Didn't catch the last name
He repeated it numerous times today too. Yes, I watched all 7 hours.redline248 said:Bonfire1996 said:redline248 said:
I still don't see how he could tell us all this stuff, and then say - even with qualifiers - no bias involved in the decision not to prosecute.
I don't think Horowitz has said that. The author of the summary stated that. Horowitz testified his job was to bring the facts to light, not interpret a motive as that is not his charge.
Yesterday, at least, he said "we..." when talking about whether evidence was found that political bias impacted the decision to prosecute.
So he's including himself
And the Dems used it repeatedly to support their postion of exonerating HRC.
I am so confused & apparently so was the person who told Horowitz, "What we were told, absent a confession or false statement they would close the investigation right after the interview".RoscoePColtrane said:
Handel: Was there any indication as to why the language in the Comey Statement was changed from Grossly Negligent to extremely careless, and was it possible that it was changed to separate it from the language in the statute?
Horowitz: In fact we were told that was the very reason it was taken out, to take it from the criminal statute to outside the statute!
Handel: When I read your a report the decision to not prosecute was made before her interview, did I read this right?
Horowitz: What we were told, absent a confession or false statement they would close the investigation right after the interview
This was a counter intelligence operation, a "matter" if you will. It was not a criminal investigation at all, never was and well .... quite frankly the fix was in from the beginning, soooo depressing our bureaucracy has become so powerful.
Among the latter, under pretence of governing they have divided their nations into two classes, wolves and sheep.”
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Thomas Jefferson, Letter to Edward Carrington, January 16, 1787
Greg Bower I thoughtGCP12 said:
He named another one. Kevin. Didn't catch the last name
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Sally Moyer, the other is Kevin Kleinsman
That was it
Good catch I had to go back and verify itsmstork1007 said:
Sally Moyer, the other is Kevin Kleinsman
Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Code 7 10-42
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
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Prosperdick said:
I heard that and had to go back and listen again.
Meadows said they work(ed) for the DOJ Office of the General Counsel under Trisha Anderson. (Trish is mentioned in the Strozk/Page texts)
Sally Moyer (FBI) - Attorney. Named by Devin Nunes in his 28 December 2017 letter to Rosenstein as one of the individuals he wanted to interview.
Kevin Clinesmith (FBI) - Attorney. I couldn't find anything on him except for his name being listed in a database of FBI employees showing him as "General Attorney". Shows a ph# and an email @ic.fbi.gov
ETA: The only other items I can find on Clinesmith are Michigan State Law pages that show him as class of '07 and a member of the Alumni Board of Directors. Meh...
redline248 said:
I still don't see how he could tell us all this stuff, and then say - even with qualifiers - no bias involved in the decision not to prosecute.
Kinda reminds one of the Comey speech about Hillary where he raged about all the things she did wrong with her communications security and then concluded she probably didn't mean to so no worries.
Now we're talking!GCP12 said:
Just like cops wearing body cams, the FBI has to have transcripts or recordings of all interviews from now on.
Strzok interviewed Flynn and was present at Hillary's. Was he also present or conducting the interview for Papadop? Van der Zwaan? Gates? Even Manafort? How many others conducted during the Mueller investigation before Strzok was removed?
Know what what happens when a Medical Examiner is found to have been falsifying autopsy reports? Every criminal case in which they testified gets reopened. Strzok was in the DC Field office before his elevation to FBI HQs in counter-intel. Chances are his involvement in cases while at the DC Field Office were not all counter-intel, few were I'd suspect.
I hope Meadows isn't out over his skis here....this would be earthshaking news if it's true.
Are we to assume Horowitz was playing word-games with his report? "Bias didn't play a role in the Hilliary investigation!" (But blatant criminality did.)?
Are we to assume Horowitz was playing word-games with his report? "Bias didn't play a role in the Hilliary investigation!" (But blatant criminality did.)?
The only criminal referral Horowitz denied (sort of) was on Comey. He said there was not a criminal referral on Comey in this report.jjeffers1 said:
I hope Meadows isn't out over his skis here....this would be earthshaking news if it's true.
Are we to assume Horowitz was playing word-games with his report? "Bias didn't play a role in the Hilliary investigation!" (But blatant criminality did.)?
Foreshadowing. More to come.
Probably just made up the Hillary 302's anyway. In fact they were probably prewritten.
No kidding. That swamp creature has to be asked the EXACT question to draw out the truth. Scum all of them.jjeffers1 said:
I hope Meadows isn't out over his skis here....this would be earthshaking news if it's true.
Are we to assume Horowitz was playing word-games with his report? "Bias didn't play a role in the Hilliary investigation!" (But blatant criminality did.)?
Now you see the real reason why the FBI keep saying almost anything and everything associated with this case must stay classified because it will harm national security. Tweets like the "we will stop him" tweet are not going to compromise "sources and methods" in the normal parlance of harming national security, so why wre they redacted for national security purposes?
Because if the true extent of the corruption at the highest levels of the FBI, DOJ, and NSA under Obama then the American people would lose faith in these institutions (rightfully so) and they would need to be burned to the ground and started over. The dismantling of these corrupt agencies is the NatSec issue that DC is so worried about. When the people realize how totally corrupt they became they will demand action.
Did the Church committee in 1975 harm NatSec? Some would argue that. I think that is what is most terrifying to the DC minions, pulling the curtain back on the corruption will have far reaching unknowable consequences because the American people will demand change, big change.
I for one say bring it on because there is no greater danger to our democracy and the integrity of our elections than the intelligence agencies wielding the awesome power of the state to influence US elections and harm political opponents and help political friends.
Because if the true extent of the corruption at the highest levels of the FBI, DOJ, and NSA under Obama then the American people would lose faith in these institutions (rightfully so) and they would need to be burned to the ground and started over. The dismantling of these corrupt agencies is the NatSec issue that DC is so worried about. When the people realize how totally corrupt they became they will demand action.
Did the Church committee in 1975 harm NatSec? Some would argue that. I think that is what is most terrifying to the DC minions, pulling the curtain back on the corruption will have far reaching unknowable consequences because the American people will demand change, big change.
I for one say bring it on because there is no greater danger to our democracy and the integrity of our elections than the intelligence agencies wielding the awesome power of the state to influence US elections and harm political opponents and help political friends.
Hogties said:
Now you see the real reason why the FBI keep saying almost anything and everything associated with this case must stay classified because it will harm national security. Tweets like the "we will stop him" tweet are not going to compromise "sources and methods" in the normal parlance of harming national security, so why wre they redacted for national security purposes?
Because if the true extent of the corruption at the highest levels of the FBI, DOJ, and NSA under Obama then the American people would lose faith in these institutions (rightfully so) and they would need to be burned to the ground and started over. The dismantling of these corrupt agencies is the NatSec issue that DC is so worried about. When the people realize how totally corrupt they became they will demand action.
Did the Church committee in 1975 harm NatSec? Some would argue that. I think that is what is most terrifying to the DC minions, pulling the curtain back on the corruption will have far reaching unknowable consequences because the American people will demand change, big change.
I for one say bring it on because there is no greater danger to our democracy and the integrity of our elections than the intelligence agencies wielding the awesome power of the state to influence US elections and harm political opponents and help political friends.
That has been a large fear of mine. A repeat of the Church Committee going too far in the other direction. Granted, the CIA was completely OOC back then. Too many assassinations of foreign leaders we didn't like for whatever reason and other BSC stuff.Quote:
Because if the true extent of the corruption at the highest levels of the FBI, DOJ, and NSA under Obama then the American people would lose faith in these institutions (rightfully so) and they would need to be burned to the ground and started over. The dismantling of these corrupt agencies is the NatSec issue that DC is so worried about. When the people realize how totally corrupt they became they will demand action.
Did the Church committee in 1975 harm NatSec? Some would argue that. I think that is what is most terrifying to the DC minions, pulling the curtain back on the corruption will have far reaching unknowable consequences because the American people will demand change, big change.
Although the "wall" between the CIA and FBI largely caused the failure to detect the 9/11 plot, the Patriot Act went too far. Technology has gone too far to protect American's Constitutional rights anymore. FISA and the NSA need revamping, in my view. Has to be a way to track in real time who is accessing the NSA database, for starters.
Report had a little something for both sides. Perfect set up for God's wrath that will follow.aggiehawg said:
The only criminal referral Horowitz denied (sort of) was on Comey. He said there was not a criminal referral on Comey in this report.
Foreshadowing. More to come.
For some reason I get the impression that the Clinton 302's haven't been seen, they were public 9-2-16 or at least that's the day I downloaded them. Here they are, and as you can see the NSICG has classified them for 25 years and subject to redaction.
Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Code 7 10-42
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Code 7 10-42
Comey has hired his close friend and former U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald as his personal lawyer. Comey said Fitzgerald is part of a three-member legal team that includes David Kelley, a former deputy U.S. attorney under Comey in New York, and former federal prosecutor Dan Richman (the memo leaker), a Columbia Law School professor.Deats said:And Comey, correct?RoscoePColtrane said:Strzok's attorney, directly affiliated with the Clinton'sMooreTrucker said:Who is this Goelman, and why do we care?RoscoePColtrane said:
Fitzgerald is the godfather of one of Comey's children. Mueller is godfather to the other
Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Code 7 10-42
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Code 7 10-42
https://stonecoldtruth.com/roger-stone-my-recently-remembered-contact-with-a-russian-fbi-informant/
Roger Stone has composed an article describing his encounter with a Russian in May 2016 who has a 17 year history of being an FBI informant, and who may have been engaging in an FBI sting operation on the Trump Campaign. The Russian is actually in the US illegally but he is permitted to be here because of his work with the FBI. He previously spent 10 years in prison in Russia.
Regarding the potential informant, there is a 28 page dossier of newspaper articles, photos, documents, etc which you can peruse at: http://democratdossier.org/
(located at the bottom of the page, click on the viewing arrows)
Quote:
My critics have flipped because I only recently recalled a contact who was both a Russian and an FBI informant in 2016 only in the country on a visa requested by the Miami office of the FBI saying his presence in the country served a "public benefit". The man who called himself Henry Greenberg is actually Gennady Vasilievich Vostretsov, a convicted violent felon who spent 10 years in prison and has been an FBI informant for 17 years.
I knew none of this when my longtime colleague Michael Caputo asked me to meet with his gentleman because he claimed he had information that would be "beneficial" to the Trump campaign. Thus the claim by Shelby Holliday of The Wall Street Journal that the meeting was based on a promise of "dirt" on Hillary Clinton is a typical fake news lie.
Since my 20 minute meeting with the FBI informant resulted in no inappropriate or illegal act. I have no reason to dissemble or hide the meeting since nothing improper or significant resulted from it. Even the FBI informant himself confirmed for The Washington Post that I rejected his demand for $2 million.....
Roger Stone has composed an article describing his encounter with a Russian in May 2016 who has a 17 year history of being an FBI informant, and who may have been engaging in an FBI sting operation on the Trump Campaign. The Russian is actually in the US illegally but he is permitted to be here because of his work with the FBI. He previously spent 10 years in prison in Russia.
Regarding the potential informant, there is a 28 page dossier of newspaper articles, photos, documents, etc which you can peruse at: http://democratdossier.org/
(located at the bottom of the page, click on the viewing arrows)
drcrinum said:
https://stonecoldtruth.com/roger-stone-my-recently-remembered-contact-with-a-russian-fbi-informant/Quote:
My critics have flipped because I only recently recalled a contact who was both a Russian and an FBI informant in 2016 only in the country on a visa requested by the Miami office of the FBI saying his presence in the country served a "public benefit". The man who called himself Henry Greenberg is actually Gennady Vasilievich Vostretsov, a convicted violent felon who spent 10 years in prison and has been an FBI informant for 17 years.
I knew none of this when my longtime colleague Michael Caputo asked me to meet with his gentleman because he claimed he had information that would be "beneficial" to the Trump campaign. Thus the claim by Shelby Holliday of The Wall Street Journal that the meeting was based on a promise of "dirt" on Hillary Clinton is a typical fake news lie.
Since my 20 minute meeting with the FBI informant resulted in no inappropriate or illegal act. I have no reason to dissemble or hide the meeting since nothing improper or significant resulted from it. Even the FBI informant himself confirmed for The Washington Post that I rejected his demand for $2 million.....
Roger Stone has composed an article describing his encounter with a Russian in May 2016 who has a 17 year history of being an FBI informant, and who may have been engaging in an FBI sting operation on the Trump Campaign. The Russian is actually in the US illegally but he is permitted to be here because of his work with the FBI. He previously spent 10 years in prison in Russia.
Regarding the potential informant, there is a 28 page dossier of newspaper articles, photos, documents, etc which you can peruse at: http://democratdossier.org/
(located at the bottom of the page, click on the viewing arrows)
Never take a hostage you aren't willing to shoot,
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Code 7 10-42
Remember, America doesn’t negotiate with terrorists.
Code 7 10-42
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1009237524995194880.html
Short interesting thread by Imperator Rex.
RoscoePColtrane said:Comey has hired his close friend and former U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald as his personal lawyer. Comey said Fitzgerald is part of a three-member legal team that includes David Kelley, a former deputy U.S. attorney under Comey in New York, and former federal prosecutor Dan Richman (the memo leaker), a Columbia Law School professor.Deats said:And Comey, correct?RoscoePColtrane said:Strzok's attorney, directly affiliated with the Clinton'sMooreTrucker said:Who is this Goelman, and why do we care?RoscoePColtrane said:
Fitzgerald is the godfather of one of Comey's children. Mueller is godfather to the other
Did Strzoks lawyer and Comey work together in the 90/00s?
So, just for kicks, I clicked on Rex's Twitter. He wouldn't need thread reader of he would just reply to himself each time instead of writing a new tweet for ever point of the thread.
Edit: nevermind, he does. For some reason Twitter is showing them as individual tweets instead of replies to self
Edit: nevermind, he does. For some reason Twitter is showing them as individual tweets instead of replies to self
Dan Richman won't be one of attorneys for long. That m effer is a witness and potentially an accessory to a crime.RoscoePColtrane said:Comey has hired his close friend and former U.S. Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald as his personal lawyer. Comey said Fitzgerald is part of a three-member legal team that includes David Kelley, a former deputy U.S. attorney under Comey in New York, and former federal prosecutor Dan Richman (the memo leaker), a Columbia Law School professor.Deats said:And Comey, correct?RoscoePColtrane said:Strzok's attorney, directly affiliated with the Clinton'sMooreTrucker said:Who is this Goelman, and why do we care?RoscoePColtrane said:
Fitzgerald is the godfather of one of Comey's children. Mueller is godfather to the other
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