Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Lot's or euphoria on this thread.

The morning commute with Keith Inskeep included an interview with...

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Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti tells Steve Inskeep about what it means that a former business partner of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen is reportedly cooperating with the Mueller investigation.

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He paints a pretty different picture than what is in this thread concerning the state of the Mueller investigation.

Informed comments appreciated
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This blogger has done a ton of research on this Prof Joseph Mifsud. Really some pretty good research, this Mifsud has been around but now who has disappeared off the face of the earth

https://jonworth.eu/joseph-mifsud-professor-papadopoulos-manafort-revelations/

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Sorry - it was a joke since you noted the legalese is difficult for laypersons to read - the tool from that sight is designed to help transform legal terminology into plain language for us non-lawyers. It wasn't meant to be an insult.
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Whatever is says, it means nothing more than NY lawyers like Cohen and I assume his partner are sleazy.

His cooperation is bad news for Cohen.

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The subpoena is preferred, he said, "because when you are subpoenaed, Congress then paysfor your legal counsel and the subpoena protects [the agent] from any organizational retaliation. they are on their own as whistleblowers, they get no legal protection and there will be organizational retaliation against them."
THIS

The ultimate deep-state Hoover vacuum cleaner ... subpoena 10 cherry-picked agents/employees throughout any agency and every dept supervisor would then think twice about overt partisan behavior.
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Cow Hop Ag said:

Whatever is says, it means nothing more than NY lawyers like Cohen and I assume his partner are sleazy.

His cooperation is bad news for Cohen.


And the reporter chick from the Today Show was almost giddy about it. They got him!!!
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I misunderstood. Thought you were saying I was doing a poor job of what is known as "Hawgsplaining" what was going on.

No worries.
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Wildcat said:

Lot's or euphoria on this thread.

The morning commute with Keith Inskeep included an interview with...

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Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti tells Steve Inskeep about what it means that a former business partner of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen is reportedly cooperating with the Mueller investigation.

Audio

He paints a pretty different picture than what is in this thread concerning the state of the Mueller investigation.

Informed comments appreciated
Haven't listened to it yet, and won't be able to until late this afternoon. I tend to share in the "don't get cocky" feeling, but I'm also comfortable with the information that has been disseminated in the last 400 pages, especially the last 30.

Any decent opponent, and that's what Mueller is, will have an unexpected surprise. IMO, they're going after Trump, come hell or high water. If the DOJ guidelines and rules say "blank", he'll bend, stretch, and break, to get to the goal Plus, he has several thousand willing to play along, as many believe the Dems wield power better than anyone, and can use that to ruin----everything.

I suspect they have information we don't know, and probably obtained it illegally. It wouldn't surprise me if the Clinton's and the Obama's (which includes the third wheel, Jarrett) have been in contact with Mueller, and possibly fairly regularly. If not Mueller, I guarantee you they've been in contact with Weissman!

So, to me, the best defense, meaning politically, is to go on offense, which gas worked well in the last couple of weeks. I think everyone is waiting for the OIG to come out. Since Horowitz didn't get to talk to people who aren't government employees, there's going to be a lot left out.

We will see!
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The swamp keeps getting deeper. CNN had just hired Valerie Jarrett's daughter as a reporter to cover the DOJ when Clapper leaked details of Comey's meeting with President Trump which gave them a news hook.

Jarrett
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I did listen to it, save yourself 5 minutes of your life you'll never get back, it's pundit spin and speculation
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Wildcat said:

Lot's or euphoria on this thread.

The morning commute with Keith Inskeep included an interview with...

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Former federal prosecutor Renato Mariotti tells Steve Inskeep about what it means that a former business partner of Trump lawyer Michael Cohen is reportedly cooperating with the Mueller investigation.

Audio

He paints a pretty different picture than what is in this thread concerning the state of the Mueller investigation.

Informed comments appreciated
If you want to take a walk on the dark side, go here: https://themoscowproject.org/
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Nothing new, there. It's NPR. Same old crap about the pay-off to Stormy Daniels being a campaign finance violation ( which is FEC territory and normally could only result in a fine) and the view that Michael Cohen could be squeezed hard enough he'd break attorney client privilege and dish some other dirt on Trump.

The idea that Mueller has turned to going after Trump's pre-election business practices and that Michael Cohen is key to that as a former Trump company attorney, while not new, is still far abroad of Mueller's assigned task. (In which, he is failing miserably in the harsh light of a courtroom.)

If indeed Mueller goes down that path as that lawyer suggests, there would be a court battle. But it would also prove that Mueller has gone full Beria. Give me the man and I'll find the crime.

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Safe at Home said:

The swamp keeps getting deeper. CNN had just hired Valerie Jarrett's daughter as a reporter to cover the DOJ when Clapper leaked details of Comey's meeting with President Trump which gave them a news hook.

Jarrett
Add Laura to the list.
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Why would Rosenstein and Mueller risk their careers and reputation over a Russian collusion scam perpetrated by a political campaign?

Was the information contained in Hillary's 30,000 deleted emails so toxic that it could have destroyed members of both political parties?

Were Rosenstein, Mueller, McCabe, and other FBI and DOJ officials named in those emails?
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https://www.dailywire.com/news/30960/exclusive-daily-wire-interviews-former-trump-ryan-saavedra

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EXCLUSIVE: Former Trump Adviser Admits Talk Of Second Government 'Informant' Directed At Trump Campaign Was A 'Misunderstanding'

It was a MISUNDERSTANDING! Details in the article. Wipe Michael Caputo from your memory banks.

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drcrinum said:



https://www.dailywire.com/news/30960/exclusive-daily-wire-interviews-former-trump-ryan-saavedra

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EXCLUSIVE: Former Trump Adviser Admits Talk Of Second Government 'Informant' Directed At Trump Campaign Was A 'Misunderstanding'

It was a MISUNDERSTANDING! Details in the article. Wipe Michael Caputo from your memory banks.




Sounds plausible but also a lead that house intelligence should have followed up on and given that Mueller should be all about the "hacking" incident, not following up on that lead is at least negligence.
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I think we need a Wilford Brimley for the new AG.



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VaultingChemist said:

Why would Rosenstein and Mueller risk their careers and reputation over a Russian collusion scam perpetrated by a political campaign?

Was the information contained in Hillary's 30,000 deleted emails so toxic that it could have destroyed members of both political parties?

Were Rosenstein, Mueller, McCabe, and other FBI and DOJ officials named in those emails?

All signs point to Rod being in on the plot with Comey, Brennan, Lynch, and co, so he's facing treason charges like the rest of the them.

Things also point to Mueller being dirty due to the Uranium One deal. My guess is Hillary and Obama have dirt on him from that (especially if he got kickbacks for signing off on it, which is par for the course with those two), and they burn him if he doesn't do everything he can on this to get Trump. The scarier part would be if he was in fact one of the plotters in all this too and trying to cover up their crimes (on top of going after the Donald).
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GCP12 said:


Happening Status: Its
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Congress is issuing subpoenas?
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Prognightmare said:


Sounds like you got him on the ropes
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VaultingChemist said:

Why would Rosenstein and Mueller risk their careers and reputation over a Russian collusion scam perpetrated by a political campaign?

Was the information contained in Hillary's 30,000 deleted emails so toxic that it could have destroyed members of both political parties?

Were Rosenstein, Mueller, McCabe, and other FBI and DOJ officials named in those emails?
While speculation is just that, it's generally based on the actions and events.

ANY of those folks in the FBI hierarchy could be asked the same question. I can kind of understand McCabe, as his wife was running for State office, and Rosentstein, but everyone else MUST be based on one of two issues 1. true believer. Since 90% of DC is Democrat, it's HIGHLY likely those folks run in the standard echo chamber. They don't hear other viewpoints, and they certainly don't believe someone could have those viewpoints. 2. Nearly everyone on the left has acted with impunity for the last 8 years, maybe longer. Why would anyone on that side of the aisle be concerned with law enforcement? The only verdict of guilt was the Louisiana Congressman who kept cash in his freezer. The did get him!

Rosenstein also has a decent explanation (not a good reason), as his wife is a lawyer for several highly placed Dems. Assuming she occasionally, or often, breaks the attorney client privilege, I'm sure Rosie knows more than he's supposed he is legally allowed to. He therefore, has motive to support the "good guys". To the left, all Republicans are evil, and the Dems are beams of shining light on the hill---morally, ethically, and certainly academically, superior.

IF I genuinely thought the freedom of the country's citizens were at risk, I might do the same thing. However, for any of these people to believe the stakes are that high, they must have as severe problem with critical thinking.
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I didn't answer the Mueller question in my reply, but your reasoning is very plausible. Hell, I've wondered why he would vacate the position he had at his law firm, to become the SC.

In learning about him, I'm convinced he's excellent at convicting innocent people. I don't know what the record is for putting away genuine crooks, but he and Weissman appear to be outstanding at bankrupting, and imprisoning, the innocent.
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It was a MISUNDERSTANDING! Details in the article. Wipe Michael Caputo from your memory banks.
So, this anonymous government contractor now says he wasn't actually offering anything, just suggesting that the Trump campaign try to track down Hillary's deleted emails. Like that was such a novel idea no one had thought of it before. And said government contractor has nothing to do with intelligence agencies, nosiree. Which is precisely what government contractor(s) are instructed to say when they work with classified information.

Oh, and this: keep in mind that Halper was paid through the Department of Defense. Misunderstanding? Or is this article damage control??
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Rapier108 said:

Looks like the latest media coordinated attack is to connect to Trump to pedophilia and of course the pedophile (George Nader) is connected to Russians. Both the Compost and LA Slimes have stories so far.

They're expecting Mueller to take out Trump via this route.

There you go. For those of us that also follow "The One Lettered One" and couldn't figure out why pedo stories kept being brought up and how or why they were relevant to all of this, now we know why, who, how and whatever else is going to be used next.
Can I go to sleep Looch?
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Secolobo said:

Rapier108 said:

Looks like the latest media coordinated attack is to connect to Trump to pedophilia and of course the pedophile (George Nader) is connected to Russians. Both the Compost and LA Slimes have stories so far.

They're expecting Mueller to take out Trump via this route.

There you go. For those of us that also follow "The One Lettered One" and couldn't figure out why pedo stories kept being brought up and how or why they were relevant to all of this, now we know why, who, how and whatever else is going to be used next.

The thing is, the more the Dems press, the more Americans are tuning them out.

Had a cousin visit last week who was a hard anti-Trumper for the election and voted for Clinton. Her first comment when the news was talking about "new relevations in the Russian collusion investigation" was that it was nothing more than a witch hunt and any day now the Dems would be moving on to the next piece of BS to try to get Trump.

She got a nice bump in salary due to the tax cuts and is pro Trump now.

The Dems desperation is just turning people off.
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It was a MISUNDERSTANDING! Details in the article. Wipe Michael Caputo from your memory banks.
So, this anonymous government contractor now says he wasn't actually offering anything, just suggesting that the Trump campaign try to track down Hillary's deleted emails. Like that was such a novel idea no one had thought of it before. And said government contractor has nothing to do with intelligence agencies, nosiree. Which is precisely what government contractor(s) are instructed to say when they work with classified information.

Oh, and this: keep in mind that Halper was paid through the Department of Defense. Misunderstanding? Or is this article damage control??
Well, they obviously know who the unnamed government contractor was -- he was interviewed for the article. One point definitely in your favor: the government contractor claims he heard the business about HRC's emails during casual conversation, but he couldn't remember who it was that told him...convenient.
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(It's paywalled, but I can read it on my phone, having learned this technique from this blog.)

The WSJ is supporting Nunes for investigating the origin of the FBI counterintelligence investigation. Although the NYT & WaPo have reported otherwise, the WSJ clearly reveals that Page met with Halper at the Cambridge Symposium during July 11-12, 2016, several weeks before the FBI opened it's formal investigation (July 31). The Symposium was hosted by Halper's department at Cambridge & an affiliated department located in the same building...and, although he was not a speaker, Page's round-trip airfare was paid by the organizers of the Symposium (something I did not know), which means Halper & Co. likely paid for meals & lodging as well. Where did the money to pay Page's expenses come from?
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"The Proof that Donald Trump wasn't spied on is that he won" -Don Lemon
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Carter Page is the most confusing character in this story. I could see him being a complete patsy, the mastermind of the entire operation, or anywhere in between
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Well, they obviously know who the unnamed government contractor was -- he was interviewed for the article. One point definitely in your favor: the government contractor claims he heard the business about HRC's emails during casual conversation, but he couldn't remember who it was that told him...convenient.
Why it smells fishy to me.

I understand that DC is a hotbed of rumors and innuendo, often on purpose for disinformation and spin. In fact, that is precisely what Fusion GPS does on behalf of its clients. Huh! Imagine that.

Guess I'm getting too cynical. Maybe Caputo is a nut job trying to hang onto his 15 minutes of fame like Nunberg. But maybe not.
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VaultingChemist said:

Why would Rosenstein and Mueller risk their careers and reputation over a Russian collusion scam perpetrated by a political campaign?

Was the information contained in Hillary's 30,000 deleted emails so toxic that it could have destroyed members of both political parties?

Were Rosenstein, Mueller, McCabe, and other FBI and DOJ officials named in those emails?


That is the question! Not only that , but they risk going to prison for a long, long time.

Trump is not a saint, but Obama, Clintons, Comey, Brennan, Clapper and FBI/DOJ have/are probably committing sedition by attempting to take down an elected POTUS by illegal means.
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ETA: That's an admission, for those following along at home.
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