Mueller dismisses top FBI agent in Russia probe for anti-Trump texts

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Hope to see some movement today
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Justice be done...PLEASE!
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NM.. I posted it above.
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So are the documents the release that prompted the Roe leak? or is it something in the Pfizer docs?
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

So are the documents the release that prompted the Roe leak? or is it something in the Pfizer docs?


SCOTUS "leak" is meant for two things, completely change the narrative and to pull back in the wavering Democrat base. This will drive fundraising by blasting lies about what exactly was overturned. Because as has been said it doesn't outlaw abortions it just lets the states.

No one ever questions how within minutes of Politico printing the story with the document, there were bud loads of protesters showing up with preprinted signage and equipment
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I agree but I believe there is more to it as well. They have needed a boost for a long time and supposedly Politico had this since February...when it was released was strategic.

Everything you list would have been possible with the actual opinion was released during the summer.
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I don't believe I've ever seen a leaked story/document from SCOTUS, however, you legal historians can confirm.

I doubt we'll ever know who leaked the information, but we all know ethics and laws are rarely acknowledged by Democrats when the ends are the goal.

So it could have been an actual judge, likely Sotomayor, Kagan, or Roberts, or just an intern. However, it's likely the intelligence establishment is spying on SCOTUS, it's judges and interns.
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I know the SCOTUS story is hot, but I'd like to not derail this thread with the RvW stuff.
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The original decision in Roe was leaked to Time in 1973.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/02/leak-time-magazine-roe-wade/?variant=15bc93f5a1ccbb65
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RiskManager93 said:

The original decision in Roe was leaked to Time in 1973.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/02/leak-time-magazine-roe-wade/?variant=15bc93f5a1ccbb65

First of all, wow! Had no idea.

Secondly, do y'all realize a 1 1/2 weeks from now we'll start the Sussman trial (glory be). Can't wait for that play-by-play.

Can we get one of our own to report from the court room? Nice time of the year to be in DC.

Lastly, is there a good time, or an ideal time, to issue indictments to someone? I'm asking because of the obvious, I'm hoping for more indictments---preferably the entire Dem Party!!
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fasthorse05 said:

RiskManager93 said:

The original decision in Roe was leaked to Time in 1973.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/02/leak-time-magazine-roe-wade/?variant=15bc93f5a1ccbb65

First of all, wow! Had no idea.

Secondly, do y'all realize a 1 1/2 weeks from now we'll start the Sussman trial (glory be). Can't wait for that play-by-play.

Can we get one of our own to report from the court room? Nice time of the year to be in DC.

Lastly, is there a good time, or an ideal time, to issue indictments to someone? I'm asking because of the obvious, I'm hoping for more indictments---preferable the entire Dem Party!!
Before the Statute of Limitations expire.
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fasthorse05 said:

RiskManager93 said:

The original decision in Roe was leaked to Time in 1973.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2022/05/02/leak-time-magazine-roe-wade/?variant=15bc93f5a1ccbb65

First of all, wow! Had no idea.

Secondly, do y'all realize a 1 1/2 weeks from now we'll start the Sussman trial (glory be). Can't wait for that play-by-play.

Can we get one of our own to report from the court room? Nice time of the year to be in DC.

Lastly, is there a good time, or an ideal time, to issue indictments to someone? I'm asking because of the obvious, I'm hoping for more indictments---preferably the entire Dem Party!!
Maybe. I will believe the Sussman trial happens when I can see it.
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Anyone get a look at the unsealed docs yet?
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I doubt Durham went to all this effort if he was of the professional opinion it would be for naught. Someone gonna pay...maybe more than one going down IMHO.
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Secolobo said:


LOL
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10am today Wednesday? Or Thursday?
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I think they're in court today.
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its unbelievable that you guys have kept up with this for so long, years, and thanks for doing it. Some of us know very little about all of this legal lingo however you guys seem to bring it into focus at a lower level so the rest of us can actually understand "some" of it.

anyway, thanks again ! will be interesting to see where all this goes ? either way it seems pretty soon things will happen
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fullback44 said:

its unbelievable that you guys have kept up with this for so long, years, and thanks for doing it. Some of us know very little about all of this legal lingo however you guys seem to bring it into focus at a lower level so the rest of us can actually understand "some" of it.

anyway, thanks again ! will be interesting to see where all this goes ? either way it seems pretty soon things will happen


YES! Thanks to the resident attorneys here. No way I could follow/understand/ decipher all this legal morass. However, I've become too jaded to believe that anything is going to happen to any politically connected people. There may be some underlings get a slap on the wrist and a fine, but no one is going to jail or going to be punitively punished in any way. These people live by a different set of rules.
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Appreciate all those bringing us along on this journey. I have a few clarifying questions on the documents for in camera review.

Can someone clarify if Durham already has copies of the 36 or so documents for in camera review? My assumption is yes, but he doesn't have copies he can provide as evidence due to source of his documents.

If determined not to be privileged, when will the documents be released (full or partial) to the public?

Also, if the judge determines none of the content is remotely privileged what are the implications to the attorneys and clients clearly lying to the court?

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paging Ms. Hawg
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SamjamAg said:

Appreciate all those bringing us along on this journey. I have a few clarifying questions on the documents for in camera review.

Can someone clarify if Durham already has copies of the 36 or so documents for in camera review? My assumption is yes, but he doesn't have copies he can provide as evidence due to source of his documents.

If determined not to be privileged, when will the documents be released (full or partial) to the public?

Also, if the judge determines none of the content is remotely privileged what are the implications to the attorneys and clients clearly lying to the court?


I can only answer the first question.

And the answer to that is....

IANAL, so I may be wrong.

Durham does not have the requested documents. They are being withheld due to work product/Attorney Client Privileged communications. They likely know generally what the documents will say because of billing records and such, but not exactly.

ETA: I guess I should keep my IANAL musing to myself. Because hawg says I am wrong.
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SamjamAg said:

Appreciate all those bringing us along on this journey. I have a few clarifying questions on the documents for in camera review.

Can someone clarify if Durham already has copies of the 36 or so documents for in camera review? My assumption is yes, but he doesn't have copies he can provide as evidence due to source of his documents.

If determined not to be privileged, when will the documents be released (full or partial) to the public?

Also, if the judge determines none of the content is remotely privileged what are the implications to the attorneys and clients clearly lying to the court?


That is my current working assumption. He got them from either Ratcliffe or Grennell and requires another foundation to make them admissible.
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I now have a question after reading Brian Cates substack article...

Durham's Trapped Them All


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Sussmann's trial date is still currently set for May 16. Some time before then, I expect two things to happen:

1. Judge Cooper grants Durham's Motion To Compel Via In Camera review and
2. Sussmann to announce he's changing his plea to guilty

We'll see what happens.
We have already gotten a boat load of new information through this indictment. Is it likely this is how this ends? Does the HFA, DNC turn the screw on Sussman to make him take a deal so that this doesn't make it to court?

I am sure, like Brian says in his article, that HFA/DNC do not want to get on the stand and try to defend their ACP. Would Durham even accept a deal at this stage?
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