Shooting in Las Vegas

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I find it hard to believe that they have found no motivation for Paddock to go on a calculated shooting rampage.
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Drew_Hill said:

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has anyone commented on the fact that in the picture it looked like Paddock had been shot in the chest? was he?

Initially the police said that they breached the room and shot him, but then changed it to found him dead...seems like a simple confusion of words or fog of war, but it did look like in the picture he had been shot centermass.
If they shot him in the chest when they stormed the room then what was he doing for an hour in his room after he stopped shooting? Just hanging out?
Hell, he had a tough decision. He had 22 other rifles to choose from which one to fire.
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Bobcat06 said:

I find it hard to believe that they have found no motivation for Paddock to go on a calculated shooting rampage.
"Just because" might be the motive angle they are working on right now, that or Russia and Trump since the FBI is involved.
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backintexas2013 said:

So what's the theory of why he stopped shooting since it wasn't the security guard?



Also have they released a new timeline
Someone posted a few pages back, but I think most logical is (1) he's an old fart that took terrible care of himself, and firing off the number of rounds he did for 10+ minutes would have taken quite a toll physically (2) as the crowed dispersed, targets start getting more difficult and (3) thinking cops were at least close to moving in
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Bobcat06 said:

I find it hard to believe that they have found no motivation for Paddock to go on a calculated shooting rampage.
The "motivation" for many of these anti-social ****nut mass shooters in the past has been hard to fathom too.
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Bobcat06 said:

I find it hard to believe that they have found no motivation for Paddock to go on a calculated shooting rampage.


He was an egotistical, narcissistic ***hole who hated everyone. There you go.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Bobcat06 said:

I find it hard to believe that they have found no motivation for Paddock to go on a calculated shooting rampage.
The "motivation" for many of these anti-social ****nut mass shooters in the past has been hard to fathom too.
No it's not.

It usually falls into one of the following categories:
1. Mental Illness
2. Islam/Terrorism
3. Drug cartel/organized ties
4. Political indoctrination

The most unbelievable thing I've heard the FBI say is that a multimillionaire with no history of mental illness but a shady background brings 20+ guns to a hotel room and shoots up a concert then kills himself with no motive.
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Secolobo said:

Drew_Hill said:

BadMoonRisin said:

has anyone commented on the fact that in the picture it looked like Paddock had been shot in the chest? was he?

Initially the police said that they breached the room and shot him, but then changed it to found him dead...seems like a simple confusion of words or fog of war, but it did look like in the picture he had been shot centermass.
If they shot him in the chest when they stormed the room then what was he doing for an hour in his room after he stopped shooting? Just hanging out?
Hell, he had a tough decision. He had 22 other rifles to choose from which one to fire.
This is why I wonder if the Security guard and/or Maintenance guy may have moved up the time table, but it is odd that Paddock almost missed the end of the whole Harvest 91 festival didn't he? (I thought Jason Aldean was the last act) I thought I heard the whole thing would be over around midnight, but I would suspect the crowd to thin by then.

I don't know if anything was schedule for the next evening at the same venue and if other shooters were coming to join him to use some of the roughly dozen bump fire rifles. He had enough windows for all 12 rifles to unload a true hail of gunfire upon the streets below. That plus an explosive truck by the fuel tanks would have been a even more terrifying thought.

I suspect my friends would not have survived if 6 to 12 guns were fired simultaneously and explosives were employed.
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They were on the last song.
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Bobcat06 said:

DannyDuberstein said:

Bobcat06 said:

I find it hard to believe that they have found no motivation for Paddock to go on a calculated shooting rampage.
The "motivation" for many of these anti-social ****nut mass shooters in the past has been hard to fathom too.
No it's not.

It usually falls into one of the following categories:
1. Mental Illness
2. Islam/Terrorism
3. Drug cartel/organized ties
4. Political indoctrination

The most unbelievable thing I've heard the FBI say is that a multimillionaire with no history of mental illness but a shady background brings 20+ guns to a hotel room and shoots up a concert then kills himself with no motive.
I agree with you but he had a prescription to diazepam. He might have had a mental illness, or he might have just gotten it to steady his nerves...
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I think this is how this ends up:
They will tell us he just lost it and the blame will be focused on the response time of Mandalay Bay. Everyone will be so upset and focused on the lawsuits against MB, that people will just buy the "he's just crazy" motive and forget about all other inconsistencies.
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HoustonAg15 said:

They were on the last song.
Did not realize it was that close to ending?
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LoudestWHOOP! said:

Secolobo said:

Drew_Hill said:

BadMoonRisin said:

has anyone commented on the fact that in the picture it looked like Paddock had been shot in the chest? was he?

Initially the police said that they breached the room and shot him, but then changed it to found him dead...seems like a simple confusion of words or fog of war, but it did look like in the picture he had been shot centermass.
If they shot him in the chest when they stormed the room then what was he doing for an hour in his room after he stopped shooting? Just hanging out?
Hell, he had a tough decision. He had 22 other rifles to choose from which one to fire.
This is why I wonder if the Security guard and/or Maintenance guy may have moved up the time table, but it is odd that Paddock almost missed the end of the whole Harvest 91 festival didn't he? (I thought Jason Aldean was the last act) I thought I heard the whole thing would be over around midnight, but I would suspect the crowd to thin by then.

I don't know if anything was schedule for the next evening at the same venue and if other shooters were coming to join him to use some of the roughly dozen bump fire rifles. He had enough windows for all 12 rifles to unload a true hail of gunfire upon the streets below. That plus an explosive truck by the fuel tanks would have been a even more terrifying thought.

I suspect my friends would not have survived if 6 to 12 guns were fired simultaneously and explosives were employed.

He might have just been waiting for the festival to end and start to empty out. If you look on the map, the main entrance to the festival is at the corner of the strip and Giles street, which is directly toward him. If there were no other exits, he would set up a very tight bottleneck for maximum casualties and the crowd would be running toward him.
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Bobcat06 said:

I find it hard to believe that they have found no motivation for Paddock to go on a calculated shooting rampage.
Interesting discussion of it here:

"A Tactical Analysis Of The Las Vegas Mass Shooting Incident
Link to Article... (pretty long, but a very good summary)

I set aside some time for more details of the Vegas shooting to emerge before writing this article. A few important data points have been released, but I have to say that this remains one of the most confusing terror incidents in decades.

The tactical and strategic thought applied in this attack denotes a sophisticated and experienced shooter, yet, we are told by Stephen Paddock's family and girlfriend that there was no indication that he had such knowledge or experience. There were some advanced tactical decisions involved in every aspect of the staging of the event, yet, there were also a few glaring mistakes that do not fit. Beyond this, there is evidence that Paddock (the alleged shooter) did not act alone, yet, the official mainstream narrative continues to tell us that he was a lone wolf.

Now, every terror event these days produces an endless supply of alternative theories, some practical and some ridiculous. I will be keeping my theories to a minimum here, because I don't think they serve much purpose in this instance beyond comfort for those that desperately want explanations. What I will be doing is presenting some questions and pointing out inconsistencies. My goal is merely to show that there is evidence which indicates far more complexity to the Vegas shooting than the mainstream media and federal officials are willing to discuss.

First, lets look at how the attack was staged versus what we are told about the background of Stephen Paddock.

Mass Shooter Psychological Profile

Psychological disposition is the root of tactical behavior. It is important to note that mass shootings are an extremely rare occurrence despite the propaganda often poured onto the pages of the mainstream media. Psychological profiling of the people behind these crimes is difficult because the number of candidates is very small. There are, however, some common themes.

For example many mass shooters are motivated by revenge or envy. Shooters often exhibit signs of sociopathy, a self-centered nature and a lack of compassion along with past instances of abuse and violence towards other people and animals. There is also usually a previous history of mental illness. In most cases there is a "triggering event" which leads to a psychological break and a reaction to violence.

According to the personal accounts from the people that knew Paddock, including his girlfriend, none of these attributes seems to fit. Marilou Danley described him as a "kind and caring man," stating that he had never taken any action which would have led her to believe he was capable of such violence. The only factor that stands as evidence of a potential psychological break is the fact that Paddock was prescribed the anti-anxiety drug diazepam months prior, which has been known to cause aggression when taken in larger doses.

Did Paddock take this drug because of unrelated anxiety and did it trigger his shooting spree? Or, was his anxiety caused by the fact that he was already planning a shooting spree and the drug was meant to "take the edge off" so he could more easily follow through with the attack?

Paddock was prescribed the drug once in 2016 and on June 21st of this year. I have seen no evidence that he was using the medication in the days before the attack. The meticulous planning that went into this attack, as well as possible evidence that Paddock was renting rooms adjacent to major musical events for some time, shows that this was not initiated by a psychological break. Rather, there was a considerable level of conscious critical thought and foresight.

There is also no available evidence of domestic instability or financial troubles. Paddock was a multi-millionaire with a successful real estate investment portfolio. He was a former postal worker and tax auditor, as well as an employee for defense contractor Lockheed Martin (I have not seen any statements by Lockheed on what exactly he did for them). It should be noted that Paddock, at age 64, was one of the oldest mass shooters in recent history.

Paddock's father, a bank robber on the FBI's Most Wanted list, was not present for the most of the early lives of the children according to his brother, Eric Paddock, which undermines the notion of poor environmental influences.

Eric Paddock claims Stephen also had no strong ideological or religious leanings and simply "didn't care" about such matters. Meaning, no apparent ties to extremist views. He had no social media profiles and police claim they have found nothing in his home computers or phones to suggest a philosophical or political motive. So far I have not seen a single concrete and verified piece of evidence proving Paddock believed in anything other than making money, gambling and traveling the world for fun.

I personally find this extremely hard to believe. Stephen Paddock, for all intents and purposes, was positively the perfect "Gray Man," a ghost that blended completely into the background, so much so that his own family and girlfriend had no idea that he was amassing the weapons and training needed to pull off the Vegas attack.

The Tactical Know-How Of A Nobody

This is the area which brings up the most questions for me in terms of the Vegas incident. As an avid tactical shooter and long distance shooter, I immediately recognized some strange factors. For instance, the choice of his perch, two adjacent rooms on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay Hotel, was rather effective for a number of reasons.

If you have the chance to study counter-sniping methodologies or talk with veterans involved in counter-sniping in urban areas, you will learn that the most successful snipers tend to choose mid-ground perches to take shots from. Meaning, they never choose the highest points nor the lowest points, and never shoot from the closest points or the furthest points. Well trained snipers can and do sometimes shoot from 1,000 yards or more, but they prefer to shoot from the "sweet spot" around 300-400 yards away at an elevated point from an expedient hide in the middle of a building or structure.

They do this because when people (including trained combat soldiers) are shot at, their eyes naturally tend to scan for the highest points in the background and the closest points in the foreground first. Choosing mid-ground positions makes snipers more difficult to pick out quickly and also harder for the average person to shoot back at.

I would note that average, untrained mass shooters are more likely to enter a crowd and start shooting at point blank range in order to ensure hits on targets. Paddock chose the position of a trained shooter, which you can see a photo of in this article by The New Yorker. It was NOT thebest possible position, but a very good one.

Paddock's choice to fire from the position of a large occupied hotel gave a layer of cover to his attack; anyone attempting to suppress him with their own fire would risk hitting innocent people within the building. Only a person with an understanding of counter-sniping and a scoped rifle would have the ability to stop the attack from outside. Nevada is a very concealed carry friendly state and attacking a crowd at close range on the ground would be a high risk scenario. Firing from the Mandalay was the shooter's most likely chance of a high body count without meeting opposition, as long as he had the proper training.

The first room Paddock used in the Mandalay is in the corner of the 32nd floor with a view of the concert area and the north. It has a diagonal range of around 400 yards and a linear range of around 240 yards. When firing from an elevated position snipers range targets and bullet drop according to the shorter linear range or "true ballistic distance" (base of the ground to the target) rather than the direct range from their perch to the target. This is because gravity only affects the bullet over the true ballistic distance and elevation in a scope must be adjusted to that distance. It is not as easy as it seems to hit targets from an elevated position, even with an "automatic" weapon.

It has been recently stated by Las Vegas police that the "note" found near Paddock's body was scribbled with calculations for bullet drop from his position. These calculations can be done with newer laser rangefinders, but Stephen apparently chose to do them on paper. Las Vegas Detective Casey Clarkson was on the grounds of the concert during the attack, and recounted "I'm like, how is he so accurate" (in reference to Paddock) in an interview with 60 Minutes. Yet another piece of evidence showing that Paddock (or someone else) had extensive shooter training.

The two adjacent rooms at the Mandalay offered extensive coverage of possible approaches for first responders. The first room gave the shooter good coverage of the concert and the north approach of Las Vegas Blvd. The second room gave the shooter a very wide angle of coverage to the south approach to the Mandalay as well as the main entrance of the hotel. More tactical know-how on display.

Finally, Paddock allegedly placed small surveillance cameras in the hall approaching his room. A valuable tool which a shooter could use to surprise law enforcement, maintaining a longer period of shooter effectiveness as well as possibly allowing for an escape. Las Vegas police are quoted as stating that it appeared as though Paddock had planned to evade capture. This fits in line with the rest of his tactical staging. His suicide does not.

Things That Don't Add Up

Again, I am not going to enter into much discussion on theory, here. I am only going to cite some instances of evidence and narrative that, for me, do not make sense. Let's begin...

The motive: No apparent motive. Paddock led a life of near luxury, had a happy relationship with his girlfriend and gave no indication to anyone of any instability or ideological affiliation. He had no criminal record. He was also well beyond the average age range of people commonly involved in such crimes. He does not fit any of the characteristics of mass shooters. Period.

The arsenal: Paddock put a substantial amount of thought and planning into the position of his perch as well as a potential escape. He had the knowledge and experience to calculate accurate shots from an elevated position at distance. But, for some reason the 64-year-old-man decided it was warranted to drag at least 23 guns and hundreds of pounds of ammunition in ten separate suitcases to his room at the Mandalay Bay. A person with the intelligence displayed in the planning of this event would know that most of these rifles were not needed in the slightest to achieve the effect desired. They are dead weight, and moving them into the Mandalay only presented unnecessary risk of discovery. Unless, of course, the original plan involved multiple shooters.

A strange year?: Family and acquaintances have mentioned Paddock's propensity for "disappearing" in the year previous to the Vegas attack. And, there is the fact that 33 of the 47 firearms Paddock owned were purchased in the last 12 months.

Security calls: Paddock called hotel security at least twice to complain about "loud music" on the floor below him the day of the shooting. Why would a mass shooter care, or take the risk of drawing too much attention to himself?

The windows: Why, after so much careful planning, did Paddock expose his position by smashing two separate windows in his adjacent hotel rooms? There are other ways of providing a shooter's loophole with less exposure? Very odd. Almost as if the decision to actually shoot was made suddenly, which does not fit the rest of the narrative or evidence.

"Unrelated" room alarm leads security right to Paddock: The Las Vegas Sheriffs Department indicates that security was originally led directly to the floor that Paddock was shooting from by a "door alarm" that was set off by someone three rooms down from him. Now, authorities have been forced to admit that this alarm and the confrontation between security and Paddock took place BEFORE he began his shooting spree. This means that police should have been alerted to Paddock's presence and exact location in advance of the attack. Who set off this alarm which conveniently helped to give away Paddock's position early, and why?

The surveillance cameras: Paddock had a head start on security, SWAT and anyone else that approached his rooms. He fired at hotel security through his door injuring employee Jesus Campos. He also had thousands of rounds of ammunition including .308 rounds which could easily be fired through several walls on the floor of his hotel room. Why did Paddock prepare for an escape, use his cameras to allow him to fire at hotel security through his door, equip rounds capable of annihilating any SWAT team that stacked up to breach his room, but decided to shoot himself instead before SWAT ever entered? Some people might argue that there is no logic to the mind of a "madman," but again, I've seen no evidence that Paddock was insane beyond the criminal act itself. Also, the hotel had its own surveillance in the hall near Paddock's rooms. No one noticed the man placing cameras about the area?

Multiple shooters?: Las Vegas County Sheriff Joseph Lombardo is quoted as saying that it was only logical to assume given the evidence that Paddock "had some help at some point" in the staging of the Vegas attack. To me, this is absolutely clear in the tactical planning. Paddock does not appear to have the background or training to have chosen and staged the perch.

The report suggesting that a phone charger was found that did not belong to Paddock has since been refuted by police, as well as the report that his card key was used to access his room while Paddock was gone. Of course, hotel surveillance would prove this one way or the other and should be made available to the public.
Still, there are multiple accounts by witnesses that there may have been a second shooter, including the initial reports given by first responders on the scene, who were told a shooter was on the 29th floor as well as the 32nd floor. All of these accounts have been dismissed as a result of "panic" and the fog of war.

The mystery woman: A witness on site at the concert stated that a woman (and her apparent boyfriend) approached people near the stage 45 minutes before the attack, telling them that "they were all going to die."
She was later escorted out of the venue by security. Who was this woman? Was she trying to menace the concertgoers or warn them? Or, was it all coincidence?

Conclusion

In my view, there is simply no way that a man with Stephen Paddock's history and background committed the Vegas shooting alone.

There is no motive, no clear evidence of mental illness, no ideological markers and nothing to be gained. The tactical expertise displayed in most cases shows considerable training. Theories will abound.
It is possible that he was used. It is also possible that he was secretly radicalized and trained, as ISIS has continuously asserted since the attack. Or, perhaps he never pulled a single trigger and somehow ended up shot through the head in a room full of guns overlooking Las Vegas Blvd. and dozens of dead concertgoers.
The most disturbing aspect of this event and the mainstream narrative, though, is what it insinuates.
It insinuates that anyone no matter how seemingly normal could one day simply "snap" and murder crowds of people with impunity.

It is the anti-Second Amendment narrative personified, because if "anyone" is capable of such horror, and motive is nonexistent, then the mere existence of firearm access means that we are surrounded by millions of latent mass shooters.

That is to say, we are supposed to fear everyone around us at all times.

I will write about the solution to this problem in my next article. In the meantime, I suggest everyone ponder on the oddities of this event and continue to ask questions."
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HoustonAg15 said:

They were on the last song.
I thought Aldean was on his second song
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I thought the same thing
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Thanks for the article. I will bookmark and read after work
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That was a good article.

I think he did the shouting himself but had help in the planning.
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Some of that is reaching. There were a lot of people who knew Paddock as a self centered individual who treated everyone like they worked for him. It seems there were 2 sides to him, and he was very good at keeping a certain image, like most psychopaths. There was also an interview with a hooker who supposedly had him as a client. According to her accounts, he liked rough sex and had violent rape fantasies. Those things would point to someone who easily fits the mass shooter profile.

He was also a seemingly calculating person. He may not have had a ton of experience with weapons, but he could have certainly done a lot of research. Some of the gun store owners he bought from said he really seemed to know his stuff. He may have also kept much of this from his family. His brother was admittedly not close to him and they did not talk often.
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Hannity is going to have the security officer (Campos) on tonight. Foxnews 8pm.
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The notion that he was planning to escape doesn't add up. Even if he had been able to escape, it wouldn't take authorities long to figure out who he was. He would have left an easy trail for them to follow.
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That's a terrible article.

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The mystery woman: A witness on site at the concert stated that a woman (and her apparent boyfriend) approached people near the stage 45 minutes before the attack, telling them that "they were all going to die."

She was later escorted out of the venue by security. Who was this woman? Was she trying to menace the concertgoers or warn them? Or, was it all coincidence?
Didn't the police already confirm this was in response to two women getting in a fight and one yelling at the other "you're going to die"?

I believe that was confirmed, and if it was, then the author of that entire article lacks credibility and integrity, like many of the people recklessly spreading falsehoods about his event.
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Cepe said:

That was a good article.

I think he did the shouting himself but had help in the planning.
I would say that at the very least he had help in planning it, but that doesn't really answer the why.

The only two bits of information that we have to this point is the announcement of ISIS that Las Vegas was a target:

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/calls-for-attacks-against-las-vegas-emerge-on-isis-propaganda-video/719081124

...and the claim after the fact that he did this for ISIS:

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2017/10/05/isis-claims-responsibility-las-vegas-attack-fourth-time/

If you set aside the most simple explanation - I converted to Islam and did it for Allah - aside, the explanations get either more ridiculous (a guy with no documented history of mental illness suddenly snapped and carried out a plot requiring immense amounts of forethought) or more complicated (he was an arms dealer, was part of a fast-and-furious style plot to entrap ISIS, the deal went bad, and he was killed by terrorists who did the actual shooting).



Video link to his brother saying "He was an arm..." before suddenlying realizing he didn't want to go there and clamming up.
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He was a what? Lots of room for guessing there
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applemac_g4 said:

Cepe said:

That was a good article.

I think he did the shouting himself but had help in the planning.
I would say that at the very least he had help in planning it, but that doesn't really answer the why.

The only two bits of information that we have to this point is the announcement of ISIS that Las Vegas was a target:

http://www.lasvegasnow.com/news/calls-for-attacks-against-las-vegas-emerge-on-isis-propaganda-video/719081124

...and the claim after the fact that he did this for ISIS:

https://www.redstate.com/brandon_morse/2017/10/05/isis-claims-responsibility-las-vegas-attack-fourth-time/

If you set aside the most simple explanation - I converted to Islam and did it for Allah - aside, the explanations get either more ridiculous (a guy with no documented history of mental illness suddenly snapped and carried out a plot requiring immense amounts of forethought) or more complicated (he was an arms dealer, was part of a fast-and-furious style plot to entrap ISIS, the deal went bad, and he was killed by terrorists who did the actual shooting).



Video link to his brother saying "He was an arm..." before suddenlying realizing he didn't want to go there and clamming up.


Sigh. This video has been making the rounds since early last week. Watch it in context. He was going to say "army of one", that's why his next comment is.about not wanting to offend those in the military.
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he was going to say "army of one" I think. It makes the most sense contextually.
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ABATTBQ11 said:

Some of that is reaching. There were a lot of people who knew Paddock as a self centered individual who treated everyone like they worked for him. It seems there were 2 sides to him, and he was very good at keeping a certain image, like most psychopaths. There was also an interview with a hooker who supposedly had him as a client. According to her accounts, he liked rough sex and had violent rape fantasies. Those things would point to someone who easily fits the mass shooter profile.

He was also a seemingly calculating person. He may not have had a ton of experience with weapons, but he could have certainly done a lot of research. Some of the gun store owners he bought from said he really seemed to know his stuff. He may have also kept much of this from his family. His brother was admittedly not close to him and they did not talk often.
Yeah there is a lot of over thinking this going on. He fired hundreds of rounds in to a tightly packed crowd of over 20,000 people from a distance of about 300-350 yards. The biggest skill he needed to learn in order to do that was simply operating the weapons. I think some of these "tactical experts" are making more out of this part of the story than is necessary.

Also keep in mind that I don't think we know how many of the 500 injuries were bullet wounds. And in crowd like that a single bullet could have injured multiple people. Ricochets could have caused many of the gun shot wounds.

Paddock did not need to be highly trained to inflict the damage he did.
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Okay, that makes sense.
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Olag00 said:

Hannity is going to have the security officer (Campos) on tonight. Foxnews 8pm.
Damnit. I may have to watch Sean Hannity.
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I don't know if anything was schedule for the next evening at the same venue and if other shooters were coming to join him to use some of the roughly dozen bump fire rifles. He had enough windows for all 12 rifles to unload a true hail of gunfire upon the streets below. That plus an explosive truck by the fuel tanks would have been a even more terrifying thought.
he wouldn't have screwed the stairwell shut and put cameras in the hallway if he was planning something for the next day.

i do believe its possible that he was expecting help that didn't show. maybe they got cold feet, or maybe bc of the security guard showing up, he upped the timeframe.

Jason Aldean was not on his last song. he had barely just started.
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applemac_g4 said:



According to the personal accounts from the people that knew Paddock, including his girlfriend, none of these attributes seems to fit. Marilou Danley described him as a "kind and caring man," stating that he had never taken any action which would have led her to believe he was capable of such violence. The only factor that stands as evidence of a potential psychological break is the fact that Paddock was prescribed the anti-anxiety drug diazepam months prior, which has been known to cause aggression when taken in larger doses.

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I personally find this extremely hard to believe. Stephen Paddock, for all intents and purposes, was positively the perfect "Gray Man," a ghost that blended completely into the background, so much so that his own family and girlfriend had no idea that he was amassing the weapons and training needed to pull off the Vegas attack.

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The motive:
No apparent motive. Paddock led a life of near luxury, had a happy relationship with his girlfriend and gave no indication to anyone of any instability or ideological affiliation. He had no criminal record. He was also well beyond the average age range of people commonly involved in such crimes. He does not fit any of the characteristics of mass shooters. Period.
The author seems to be ignorant of the report linked below, in which an escort paints a disturbing picture of Paddock's "violent rape fantasies." Paddock bragged about being "born bad." The escort described Paddock as obsessive, paranoid, and a 9/11 truther. "[W]hen he would have a winning streak, we would go back and have really aggressive and violent sex."

Couple this with the psychotropic drugs, which he'd been on since 2013, and you get a slightly different idea of who Paddock was.

The author is really stretching in his conclusion that Paddock was "the perfect 'Gray Man,'" in "a happy relationship with his girlfriend," who had given "no indication to anyone of any instability."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4636626/hooker-reveals-las-vegas-gunman-violent-rape-fantasies-bragged-i-was-born-bad/

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Olag00 said:

Hannity is going to have the security officer (Campos) on tonight. Foxnews 8pm.
Alex Jones or bust!
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zmurda said:

he was going to say "army of one" I think. It makes the most sense contextually.
That's possible. Though I wonder given the speed at which he shut his mouth when he started to go there if it was something so innocent.

About the only thing I'm ready to 100% commit to is that it's next to impossible that this was a Lone Wolf attack.

Beyond that, it's all up in the air.
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North Dallas Forty oz. said:


The author seems to be ignorant of the report linked below, in which an escort paints a disturbing picture of Paddock's "violent rape fantasies." Paddock bragged about being "born bad." The escort described Paddock as obsessive, paranoid, and a 9/11 truther. "[W]hen he would have a winning streak, we would go back and have really aggressive and violent sex."

Couple this with the psychotropic drugs, which he'd been on since 2013, and you get a slightly different idea of who Paddock was.

Perhaps. On the other hand if you're trying to sweep something under the rug, I can't think of too many people easier than an escort to pay to parrot the company line.

By psychotropic drugs, do you mean the benzo? Or something else? If it's the former, there's zero chance that's the cause.
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