Shooting in Las Vegas
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Wait, he died in the past week?HoustonAg15 said:
The house in Roanoke is registered to this guy:
And he's apparently dead.
stetson said:BernArnold said:
It is absolutely a piece of paper in this image (bottom right zoomed in) and a green roll of tape.
the other thing is not a pen though - but I have no idea what it is. Much too thick to be any writing instrument.
and there appears to be one shell casing to the right of the paper - could be standing on end but I'm not sure.
Maybe Frisco can use his high-tech software and enhance the image to see what the note says.
Still pisses me off that some moderator nuked that thread.
In a plane crash?NAP Violator said:Wait, he died in the past week?HoustonAg15 said:
The house in Roanoke is registered to this guy:
And he's apparently dead.
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No. Died in December, 2015...NAP Violator said:Wait, he died in the past week?HoustonAg15 said:
The house in Roanoke is registered to this guy:
And he's apparently dead.
If a Muslim was planning a terrorist attack, they would not go down to warn people it was about to happen.IDAGG said:Starting to look like it.AggiePetro07 said:
Is this chick the type of person to just throw crap at the wall and see what sticks?
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
He got the cancer and died on a Tuesday
How is the company still active and registered at his house though if he died in 2015?FireAg said:No. Died in December, 2015...NAP Violator said:Wait, he died in the past week?HoustonAg15 said:
The house in Roanoke is registered to this guy:
And he's apparently dead.
And that's all I have to say about that.
Why would he buy a house that another pilot had owned? This is getting too weird for me.
Yes, they would have breached quicker for sure. They would have likely needed explosives to get through the hotel Fire Door as a mechanical (ram) breach would likely not be successful. If a mechanical breach was attempted, team members would be taking multiple hits from rounds if he were shooting out.Aston04 said:Great summary.Urban Ag said:
Here is how I would piece the timeline together.
Shooting begins:
About 10 minutes in, private security reaches the room on 32nd floor.
Security guard is shot. Security is told to stand down, wait for police and SWAT unit.
Shooter believes the calvary has arrived and kills himself
For the next roughly hour:
Shooting has stopped giving police and security more time to cover all bases.
Police and security clear rooms on 32nd floor and above and below.
Police move into positions at adjacent hotels, spotters are monitoring the room, continue to relay info - no shots/no movement can be seen
SWAT is satisfied they have cleared rooms to a safe distance to conduct breach.
Breach. Find shooter dead.
I can see that taking 72 minutes.
Question for those in law enforcement/in the know- Would SWAT have moved in much faster if the shooting had kept going? Surely so, yes? Scary if not.
Probably because it was a company with multiple employees and someone else took over? Maybe title to the company transferred to his wife and she still lives there? I don't think a 2015 plane crash is related to the Vegas shooting...NAP Violator said:How is the company still active and registered at his house though if he died in 2015?FireAg said:No. Died in December, 2015...NAP Violator said:Wait, he died in the past week?HoustonAg15 said:
The house in Roanoke is registered to this guy:
And he's apparently dead.
Even if this all turns out to be fake garbage and he's just a crazy idiot, going down the rabbit hole on this thread has been enjoyable. Regardless this has to be one of the strangest mass shootings in history. There doesn't appear to be ANY motive at all.
While true, companies like that usually change their registration when the owner dies and someone else takes it over. The fact that it's still registered there is weird.FireAg said:Probably because it was a company with multiple employees and someone else took over? I don't think a 2015 plane crash is related to the Vegas shooting...NAP Violator said:How is the company still active and registered at his house though if he died in 2015?FireAg said:No. Died in December, 2015...NAP Violator said:Wait, he died in the past week?HoustonAg15 said:
The house in Roanoke is registered to this guy:
And he's apparently dead.
Even if company title transferred to his wife and she still lives there?NAP Violator said:While true, companies like that usually change their registration when the owner dies and someone else takes it over. The fact that it's still registered there is weird.FireAg said:Probably because it was a company with multiple employees and someone else took over? I don't think a 2015 plane crash is related to the Vegas shooting...NAP Violator said:How is the company still active and registered at his house though if he died in 2015?FireAg said:No. Died in December, 2015...NAP Violator said:Wait, he died in the past week?HoustonAg15 said:
The house in Roanoke is registered to this guy:
And he's apparently dead.
Yup. That's why I agreed that it is starting to look like she is just throwing crap against the wall to see if it sticks. She is posting things that are pure speculation/probably BS, I assume to get clicks.Rapier108 said:If a Muslim was planning a terrorist attack, they would not go down to warn people it was about to happen.IDAGG said:Starting to look like it.AggiePetro07 said:
Is this chick the type of person to just throw crap at the wall and see what sticks?
Already posted, but no he died in 2015. The last flight on flight aware is from OH to Roanoke, VA. Likely back to where Volant parks the plane.
So this plane was owned my Paddock, then sold to a defense and intelligence contractor and someone named John Warren Rogers who crashed it? Is that where my rabbit hole leads?
So this plane was owned my Paddock, then sold to a defense and intelligence contractor and someone named John Warren Rogers who crashed it? Is that where my rabbit hole leads?
Private aircraft like a Piper or Cessna go through many owners in the course of their lifetime, which can be 50+ years.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Probably sold to the company owner who registered it in the name of the company rather than himself since aircraft registrations are public record.Quote:
So this plane was owned my Paddock, then sold to a defense and intelligence contractor and someone named John Warren Rogers who crashed it? Is that where my rabbit hole leads?
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Yeah I thought of that after I made the post. You're probably right.FireAg said:Even if company title transferred to his wife and she still lives there?NAP Violator said:While true, companies like that usually change their registration when the owner dies and someone else takes it over. The fact that it's still registered there is weird.FireAg said:Probably because it was a company with multiple employees and someone else took over? I don't think a 2015 plane crash is related to the Vegas shooting...NAP Violator said:How is the company still active and registered at his house though if he died in 2015?FireAg said:No. Died in December, 2015...NAP Violator said:Wait, he died in the past week?HoustonAg15 said:
The house in Roanoke is registered to this guy:
And he's apparently dead.
Exactly. Which is why people should never trust something just because it is on 4Chan, Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, etc. Many of us here decry the "fake news" media, but CNN, NYT, WP, etc. has nothing on fake news when it comes to what is posted on social media.IDAGG said:Yup. That's why I agreed that it is starting to look like she is just throwing crap against the wall to see if it sticks. She is posting things that are pure speculation/probably BS, I assume to get clicks.Rapier108 said:If a Muslim was planning a terrorist attack, they would not go down to warn people it was about to happen.IDAGG said:Starting to look like it.AggiePetro07 said:
Is this chick the type of person to just throw crap at the wall and see what sticks?
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
Nothing mysterious about that. That is the name and address of the registered agent which was provided at the time the entity was created. It will stay that way, active or inactive, until someone changes it. In Texas, you do that with the Secretary of State. I have seen many companies who did not change that 15 or 20 years after someone died.NAP Violator said:How is the company still active and registered at his house though if he died in 2015?FireAg said:No. Died in December, 2015...NAP Violator said:Wait, he died in the past week?HoustonAg15 said:
The house in Roanoke is registered to this guy:
And he's apparently dead.
Rapier108 said:Exactly. Which is why people should never trust something just because it is on 4Chan, Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, etc. Many of us here decry the "fake news" media, but CNN, NYT, WP, etc. has nothing on fake news when it comes to what is posted on social media.IDAGG said:Yup. That's why I agreed that it is starting to look like she is just throwing crap against the wall to see if it sticks. She is posting things that are pure speculation/probably BS, I assume to get clicks.Rapier108 said:If a Muslim was planning a terrorist attack, they would not go down to warn people it was about to happen.IDAGG said:Starting to look like it.AggiePetro07 said:
Is this chick the type of person to just throw crap at the wall and see what sticks?
The receipt she posted of is more than speculation, unless it's a forgery.
http://www.newsweek.com/marilou-danley-gunmans-girlfriend-social-security-number-677033?amp=1
Newsweek retract story about two marriages.
Newsweek retract story about two marriages.
Airplane rabbit hole officially closed.
She's doubled-down on it...Rapier108 said:Exactly. Which is why people should never trust something just because it is on 4Chan, Reddit, Twitter, Facebook, etc. Many of us here decry the "fake news" media, but CNN, NYT, WP, etc. has nothing on fake news when it comes to what is posted on social media.IDAGG said:Yup. That's why I agreed that it is starting to look like she is just throwing crap against the wall to see if it sticks. She is posting things that are pure speculation/probably BS, I assume to get clicks.Rapier108 said:If a Muslim was planning a terrorist attack, they would not go down to warn people it was about to happen.IDAGG said:Starting to look like it.AggiePetro07 said:
Is this chick the type of person to just throw crap at the wall and see what sticks?
And it very well maybe. Faking a receipt would not be hard.Quote:
The receipt she posted of is more than speculation, unless it's a forgery.
"If you will not fight for right when you can easily win without blood shed; if you will not fight when your victory is sure and not too costly; you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with all the odds against you and only a precarious chance of survival. There may even be a worse case. You may have to fight when there is no hope of victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves." - Sir Winston Churchill
...especially....oh I don't know....across the street from a CONCERT?!?!??!?TexasAggie_02 said:oh FFS. you're reaching. It's Vegas. Its not like there isn't a shortage of flashing lights everywhere.TurkeyBaconLeg said:Makes you wonder why that strobe light was there at all. I wonder if the shooter planted it as a diversion to confuse people as to the actual location of the shooters position.BernArnold said:
Well there you go. That crushes the lower floor 2nd shooter BS.