YokelRidesAgain said:

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AG 2000' said:

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I know at least some swat units in big cities are trained in firing from a chopper. I would assume they'd have that training in Vegas given the buildings on the strip.

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Yeah, eventually you could do that--although IIRC they tried something like that with Whitman and he was able to hold them off by shooting at the aircraft, although it definitely limited his ability to target pedestrians on the ground.

That's a time consuming operation, however. You need a pilot, a sniper and a helicopter, none of which are presumably in the same location when the call comes.

I think the reality is that in any event like this, the vast majority of casualties are going to occur before it is possible to mount an effective response. Shooter's potential targets are going to rapidly decline as people run away from where he is.

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quad copter with small explosive. like what they did with the Dallas Shooter, except not with a bomb squad robot.

That's my thought.

Identify target and take him out.

never heard of a staycation?

i don't really understand your point though. hotels rarely question "why" when a guest checks in, and given that it's vegas someone wanting to stay and gamble instead of going home is a perfectly reasonable answer.

MouthBQ98 said:

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Vegas porters and staff are probably used to don't ask don't tell regarding what might be in baggage, too.

The thing that blows my mind besides the horribleness of it in general is how he was able to gauge the drop at that distance in the dark shooting at a down angle without tracers and stay on target, even one that big. Was he checking with a spotting scope?

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30,000 ppl packed into 9 acres. i don't think he really had to judge anything.

Charpie said:

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Do not disturb signs?

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I guess I don't see how 3 days of no housekeeping for a corner suite would not raise questions.

The Debt said:

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It shocks no one that a native books a hotel in his hometown?

Maybe I'm just a miser, but I've never felt the fiscal liberalness to throw $100 at a room when I have a bed 9 miles away.

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I am sure people do this quite a bit in Vegas. My wife and I did a 3-night staycation at a nice place in Houston last year. Was probably 7-8 miles from our house. I bet it's very common in Vegas.

Has it been speculated why he picked that hotel? I mean if he wanted to make a statement go to Trump Hotel?

The Debt said:

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It shocks no one that a native books a hotel in his hometown?

Maybe I'm just a miser, but I've never felt the fiscal liberalness to throw $100 at a room when I have a bed 9 miles away.

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I've booked hotels in my own town Dallas many many times. Weekend staycation without kids and also for special occasions like anniversary and special events for proximity and convenience.

Wycliffe_03 said:

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The Debt said:

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It shocks no one that a native books a hotel in his hometown?

Maybe I'm just a miser, but I've never felt the fiscal liberalness to throw $100 at a room when I have a bed 9 miles away.

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I am sure people do this quite a bit in Vegas. My wife and I did a 3-night staycation at a nice place in Houston last year. Was probably 7-8 miles from our house. I bet it's very common in Vegas.

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Plus it was 80 miles from his house. I get hotel rooms a few times a year in Fort Worth and live less than 80 miles away from there. It's not that uncommon.

MsDoubleD81 said:

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Has it been speculated why he picked that hotel? I mean if he wanted to make a statement go to Trump Hotel?

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I'm going to guess because it gave a great overhead view of that concert...just a hunch.

No one hangs out near the Trump hotel, it isn't near anything

Did you check in for him?

And yes I've heard of a staycation, but unless you plan to stay in bed for the duration of the vacation, the money for the hotel would be better spent on massages, dining, activities, alcohol etc.

I traveled with Pelican cases of all shapes and sizes containing computer equipment for 7 years. I got funny looks from time to time. Most people assumed it was photography equipment. At hotels, no one even gave me a second look and for the most part the bellman never asked to help, because I am assuming usually if you have something in a Pelican case, you don't want someone else handling it.

For the most part it was completely ignored, except when I carried the smaller ones on to the plane, then people got itchy.

The Debt said:

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It shocks no one that a native books a hotel in his hometown?

Maybe I'm just a miser, but I've never felt the fiscal liberalness to throw $100 at a room when I have a bed 9 miles away.

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its Vegas. I'm sure lots of people cheat, get prostitutes, do drugs, etc, and would prefer not to do those things at home. Also, people that gamble a lot may not want to have to drive home after drinking and gambling all night.

Families might like to see the sights and be pampered at a resorts instead of going home.

Lots of reasons for people to stay in a hotel near home.

The Debt said:

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It shocks no one that a native books a hotel in his hometown?

Maybe I'm just a miser, but I've never felt the fiscal liberalness to throw $100 at a room when I have a bed 9 miles away.

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It was 90 miles away.

The Debt said:

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It shocks no one that a native books a hotel in his hometown?

Maybe I'm just a miser, but I've never felt the fiscal liberalness to throw $100 at a room when I have a bed 9 miles away.

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He lived 70 miles away and was a gambler. You're talking about a room in Vegas here too, lots do it to get away.

not enough suspicion for a hotel to think someone is plotting a massacre. i don't think we want hotel cleaning staff acting as screeners for potential terrorist activity.

the guy could have just closed up his suitcases and locked them and allowed them to clean the room a couple of the days before. i do that whenever i stay in hotels.

You don't go through the lobby to get from the parking to rooms at Mandalay. And people are rolling in all kinds of crap all hours of the day.

There is a whole lot about this shooting in Las Vegas that just doesn't pass the smell test for me. The usual angles for motive, even insanity, don't seem to register a pass on this one.

We are all going to need more information on this.

T&P's to the victims and families.

Wife and I book a night in our city at least twice per year. Parents stay at our place with kids. I doubt this is uncommon.

CJS4715 said:

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Wife and I book a night in our city at least twice per year. Parents stay at our place with kids. I doubt this is uncommon.

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We do the same.

Thanks

MsDoubleD81 said:

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Has it been speculated why he picked that hotel? I mean if he wanted to make a statement go to Trump Hotel?

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Probably because it was right next to where the concert was going to be held?

YokelRidesAgain said:

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AG 2000' said:

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I know at least some swat units in big cities are trained in firing from a chopper. I would assume they'd have that training in Vegas given the buildings on the strip.

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Yeah, eventually you could do that--although IIRC they tried something like that with Whitman and he was able to hold them off by shooting at the aircraft, although it definitely limited his ability to target pedestrians on the ground.

That's a time consuming operation, however. You need a pilot, a sniper and a helicopter, none of which are presumably in the same location when the call comes.

I think the reality is that in any event like this, the vast majority of casualties are going to occur before it is possible to mount an effective response. Shooter's potential targets are going to rapidly decline as people run away from where he is.

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SWAT was kicking down his door 15 minutes after the shooting started. The airport is right next to the Strip, and you assume there was at least one Vegas PD chopper either up as nightly patrol or on standby on the tarmac in case of a call out.

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Did you check in for him?

And yes I've heard of a starvation, but unless you plan to stay in bed for the duration of the vacation, the money for the hotel would be better spent on massages, dining, activities, alcohol etc.

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Dude are you seriously on this thread telling people what to do with their time and money? Get a life.

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Look at his username.

Smh at some of the questions being asked in here.
Gheez people, at least TRY to sound educated/halfway coherent.

TexasAggie_02 said:

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YokelRidesAgain said:

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AG 2000' said:

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I know at least some swat units in big cities are trained in firing from a chopper. I would assume they'd have that training in Vegas given the buildings on the strip.

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Yeah, eventually you could do that--although IIRC they tried something like that with Whitman and he was able to hold them off by shooting at the aircraft, although it definitely limited his ability to target pedestrians on the ground.

That's a time consuming operation, however. You need a pilot, a sniper and a helicopter, none of which are presumably in the same location when the call comes.

I think the reality is that in any event like this, the vast majority of casualties are going to occur before it is possible to mount an effective response. Shooter's potential targets are going to rapidly decline as people run away from where he is.

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quad copter with small explosive. like what they did with the Dallas Shooter, except not with a bomb squad robot.

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You think that the Las Vegas PD has a drone with a bomb mounted on it ready to fly up 32 floors?

Plus, why wouldn't he just shoot it down?