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I'm no gun expert, but the sounds I hear in the video point to a drum mag because there's fairly consistent, long-period firing - a hell of a lot longer than a 30rd mag. I'd also say bump stock because the cycle rate isn't as uniform as full-auto would be.

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that's staggering

how many rounds did he get off

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Was wondering the same. 58-59 mortally wounded and over 500 injured, even if not all of the injuries were GSWs is a lot. I understand it was a crowd but that is accurate shooting. What was the duration of the entire event?

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Around 15 minutes.

With around 600 casualties (dead + wounded), that's 40 hits per minutes. Assuming he hit some victims twice and also missed some, that's still very accurate.

He had training.

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aggiehawg said:

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that's staggering

how many rounds did he get off

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Was wondering the same. 58-59 mortally wounded and over 500 injured, even if not all of the injuries were GSWs is a lot. I understand it was a crowd but that is accurate shooting. What was the duration of the entire event?

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Ctrue

but you typically know if someone is a "gun guy"

i.e. the type of guy who can and would mod an AK

that's just my assumption

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I keep seeing this. How do we know it was modified? Are we assuming it was modified or something. Cause that ain't really easy.

There are millions and millions of fully automatic AK 47s in this world.

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I've always been under the impression that the necessary modifications aren't really all that hard if you know what you're doing. I know my way around firearms fairly well (no expert by any stretch), but there are things like this that I'm just not going to Google.

In the end though, all you're doing is making a change to the relationship between a couple of metal parts within the trigger and sear assembly.

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He had training.

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He had training.

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Meh. Even with training, shooting a full auto from that distance and hitting individuals accurately is next to impossible. The only thing he was doing was firing continuously into a large crowd, which of course would lead to a lot of hits. I think it is more accurate to say he had "practice"

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also curious as to the square footage of the ground that came under fire

did he have the discipline to shoot as wide as possible or did he tunnel?

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You wouldn't need much discipline if you're raining down rounds, 100-per mag, over a 380k+ sqft area.

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agsalaska said:

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Ctrue

but you typically know if someone is a "gun guy"

i.e. the type of guy who can and would mod an AK

that's just my assumption

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I keep seeing this. How do we know it was modified? Are we assuming it was modified or something. Cause that ain't really easy.

There are millions and millions of fully automatic AK 47s in this world.

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I've always been under the impression that the necessary modifications aren't really all that hard if you know what you're doing. I know my way around firearms fairly well (no expert by any stretch), but there are things like this that I'm just not going to Google.

In the end though, all you're doing is making a change to the relationship between a couple of metal parts within the trigger and sear assembly.

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I understand. But it is not really that easy. In fact it is pretty difficult.

But we will know soon enough.

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Keep in mind in the early minute or minutes, before the panic and stampede for the exits sets in, you're looking at a music festival where revelers were likely standing nearly shoulder to shoulder. Perhaps not Kyle field student section dense, but certainly close. The closer to the stage you get the tighter everyone gets.

Reports said for the first 20 seconds people didn't react. A lot of folks have said they thought it was fireworks. You don't have to be very accurate when your first minute of fire is nearly a guaranteed hit with every shot.

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He had training.

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Meh. Even with training, shooting a full auto from that distance and hitting individuals accurately is next to impossible. The only thing he was doing was firing continuously into a large crowd, which of course would lead to a lot of hits. I think it is more accurate to say he had "practice"

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lots of experts here. I am not. What would you estimate his rate of fire to have been? Sounds like five or six rounds per second to me, but what the heck do I know?

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That brother is acting odd.

Obviously, his world just got turned upside down, but still very odd acting.

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agsalaska said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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agsalaska said:

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cone said:

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Ctrue

but you typically know if someone is a "gun guy"

i.e. the type of guy who can and would mod an AK

that's just my assumption

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I keep seeing this. How do we know it was modified? Are we assuming it was modified or something. Cause that ain't really easy.

There are millions and millions of fully automatic AK 47s in this world.

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I've always been under the impression that the necessary modifications aren't really all that hard if you know what you're doing. I know my way around firearms fairly well (no expert by any stretch), but there are things like this that I'm just not going to Google.

In the end though, all you're doing is making a change to the relationship between a couple of metal parts within the trigger and sear assembly.

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I understand. But it is not really that easy. In fact it is pretty difficult.

But we will know soon enough.

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He lived in the SW United States and had two planes.....how available are full auto AKs in Mexico?

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Presley OBannons Sword said:

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He had training.

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Meh. Even with training, shooting a full auto from that distance and hitting individuals accurately is next to impossible. The only thing he was doing was firing continuously into a large crowd, which of course would lead to a lot of hits. I think it is more accurate to say he had "practice"

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lots of experts here. I am not. What would you estimate his rate of fire to have been? Sounds like five or six rounds per second to me, but what the heck do I know?

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yeah, without going back and watching the video again, that sounds about right

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agsalaska said:

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Kenneth_2003 said:

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agsalaska said:

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Ctrue

but you typically know if someone is a "gun guy"

i.e. the type of guy who can and would mod an AK

that's just my assumption

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I keep seeing this. How do we know it was modified? Are we assuming it was modified or something. Cause that ain't really easy.

There are millions and millions of fully automatic AK 47s in this world.

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I've always been under the impression that the necessary modifications aren't really all that hard if you know what you're doing. I know my way around firearms fairly well (no expert by any stretch), but there are things like this that I'm just not going to Google.

In the end though, all you're doing is making a change to the relationship between a couple of metal parts within the trigger and sear assembly.

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I understand. But it is not really that easy. In fact it is pretty difficult.

But we will know soon enough.

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The fact that he took a corner room and set up platforms and cameras. There is training involved.

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Why does that require training?

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