Shooting in Las Vegas

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Tom Doniphon said:

Madman said:

I wish I was in on the joke. I don't know what should have been typed.

Well, assuming I'm correct... it has to do with what ol' Jesus's religious affiliation would be.


Catholic?
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aggiehawg said:

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Read on another site that he used the service elevator to move all the weapons, and a bell-hop uniform was found in his room.
Part of the escape plan, I imagine. This guy was in Vegas enough to do some serious reconnoitering as to uniforms and routes that employees took. He would also spot where the surveillance cameras were located. An incendiary device could be used to disable surveillance in the hall way, covering his departure from the suite (through the bedroom exit) and then he reappears in a different hall way wearing a hotel employee uniform.
Same hallway, just one door down, but I get your point
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aggiehawg said:

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Read on another site that he used the service elevator to move all the weapons, and a bell-hop uniform was found in his room.
Part of the escape plan, I imagine. This guy was in Vegas enough to do some serious reconnoitering as to uniforms and routes that employees took. He would also spot where the surveillance cameras were located. An incendiary device could be used to disable surveillance in the hall way, covering his departure from the suite (through the bedroom exit) and then he reappears in a different hall way wearing a hotel employee uniform.


Thats a good theory and all except all the guns were registered in his name, his finger prints were everywhere, and his name was on the room. He would've been found very quickly
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"Jesus" ... perfect cover name for an Islamist terrorist.
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Just an Ag said:

"Jesus" ... perfect cover name for an Islamist terrorist.
I like your courage.
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Maybe he was planning to somehow rob the casino.... like his dad...?
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Could be a "Dreamer" who came to the US, thus a ghost.

To make this conspiracy complete...

"Jesus" (or Mo as his friends know him) was a "Dreamer" (or a Terrorist as his ISIS friends knows him) from "Mexico" (or Syria) who "educated" (or armed) himself with "ideas of freedom and hope" (or F&F weapons), on his way to "heroism" (terrorism) "saving" (killing) the lives of so many.

So, was it:
Jesus was a Dreamer from Mexico who educated himself with ideas of freedom and hope, on his way to heroism saving the lives of so many.

or was it:
Mo was a Terrorist from Syria who armed himself with or F&F weapons, on his way to terrorism killing the lives of so many.
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Rapier108 said:

Unless you're a moderator, you cannot tell me what I can and cannot say.
I'll tell you I went to cabelas and bought tracers the other day! and I'll also tell you get your facts right!
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What a clown show this has turned in to. So is this a good recap of verifiable new developments?

Police confirm the crime scene taped off home of the perpetrator of the worse mass shooting in US history was burglarized, just over a week after the incident?

Police confirm that freight elevator was used by Paddock, the same elevators that literally everyone knows, and confirmed by Steve Wynn himself, require security personnel to grant access to?

Timeline of events keeps changing and now MGM Resorts, owners of Mandalay Bay, are publicly questioning the timeline as currently reported by LVMP and FBI?

Steve Wynn has stated that Paddock was not a big time gambler, more of a "vanilla" gambler? This is relevant because the casinos gather data at the level of insurance companies. They know who the high rollers are. They know where they play. They want them in their casinos. And I really don't think Wynn would enter the fray without good info.


And that's just the clearly verifiable new developments. It still seems this Campos guy is a bit of a mystery. Amazing that we have not yet had the Good Morning America hero interview or Fox and Friends hasn't stopped by. The public records database of licensed security guard/Private Investigators, not containing Campos is interesting, if true.

The stank on this whole thing is getting worse. More obscure by the day. I'm almost ready to agree that at this point the strategy is just to make this so completely confusing that the public loses interest and some months from now an official report will be issued by the FBI that leaves a lot of holes unfilled and tell anyone still following it to pound sand.
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Dengus said:

aggiehawg said:

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Read on another site that he used the service elevator to move all the weapons, and a bell-hop uniform was found in his room.
Part of the escape plan, I imagine. This guy was in Vegas enough to do some serious reconnoitering as to uniforms and routes that employees took. He would also spot where the surveillance cameras were located. An incendiary device could be used to disable surveillance in the hall way, covering his departure from the suite (through the bedroom exit) and then he reappears in a different hall way wearing a hotel employee uniform.


Thats a good theory and all except all the guns were registered in his name, his finger prints were everywhere, and his name was on the room. He would've been found very quickly
I said "escape", not "be identified". There's a difference. He wanted people to know he had done it but he also thought he might get away from the hotel and be able to disappear for a while during the chaos. Guy was a nut case. A nation-wide manhunt for him might have tickled his fancy, who knows?
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There is no firearms registry in Nevada. Only a few states have any form of registry. I believe CA does but none of the weapons used, sans the handgun he supposedly killed himself with, could be legally purchased in CA. He also was clearly wearing gloves in the pic of his corpse. Not that it really matters as I am not disputing he was the shooter.
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I would like to thank TexAgs posters for providing the next best thing to a suspence novel that can be posted on a message board.

Strong work on this thread by all!
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Just checking in to see what the Wednesday morning QBs are saying today.
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agent-maroon said:

I would like to thank TexAgs posters for providing the next best thing to a suspence novel that can be posted on a message board.

Strong work on this thread by all!
Indeed. I just hope the public doesn't let up on this. I don't want this one to fall by the wayside like the many other mysterious cases over the last decade or so. We need answers once and for all. The divisiveness in this country demands it. In a time where the trust in our government is at a lowpoint, citizens need a reason to gain back some confidence.

My confidence in our government has been shattered since I was a teen, but is quickly reaching a new all-time low with this mess.
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Makes as much sense as this until Clemenza explains it.
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It was also mentioned that Campos used the "House Phone" to call before using his radio.

Was that a warning or trigger?

Paddock was killed.

Campos takes one for the team.
Calls down on house phone to initiate actions
Multiple gunmen reign fire down.
They escape out stairwell with security uniforms
Campos calls down on radio to Security center.
Campos claims he stopped the gunfire.

Original disclosure of Campos calling ending gunfire is true and accurate, as it pertains to the radio call.
FBI realizes a house phone was used to make a call 6 mins prior, but they don't disclose that, because they are tracking other people involved.
They disclose it to let people they are tracking know they are moving in... in order to get them to respond.

This is like one of those Murder Mystery dinners.
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I am not a conspiracy guy at all (I know everyone says that), but this thing is messy/shady as hell.
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Gal, claiming to be a co-worker of Jesus Campos who set up the Go Fund Me account for Jesus Campos, has deleted her Face Book account per /pol/, and a search by /pol/ shows she is not a licensed security guard.
Is she just a scammer??? Or....
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Wycliffe_03 said:

I am not a conspiracy guy at all (I know everyone says that), but this thing is messy/shady as hell.
That is right where I am at! The specific information that has been released is very confusing. I don't need everything tied up in a bow, however at least make it look like the details are wrapped up and confirmed before releasing it.
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Aggiebrewer said:

GlendaleAg said:





Wow.


That dude is gone
Yea 3500 sq ft house and you drive a crappy astro van? ok dude
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Aggiebrewer said:

GlendaleAg said:


Wow.

That dude is gone
"End Times News Report"

Yep, YouTube channel name checks out....
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I wondered yesterday why Campos hasn't been interviewed. Why hasn't he realeased a statement? As a hero there is money to be made.
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drcrinum said:






Gal, claiming to be a co-worker of Jesus Campos who set up the Go Fund Me account for Jesus Campos, has deleted her Face Book account per /pol/, and a search by /pol/ shows she is not a licensed security guard.
Is she just a scammer??? Or....

Or what?

She doesn't have to be a security guard to be a co-worker. Maybe she deleted her facebook account because a bunch of tinfoil types started creeping her and messaging her. Maybe she is just a scammer.
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This thread needs something.


Oh, I know.....


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https://www.today.com/news/las-vegas-hotel-workers-took-cover-hallway-after-gunman-opened-t117342

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A building engineer at the Las Vegas hotel where Stephen Paddock was holed up during his massacre last week described being pinned down in a hallway after the gunman opened fire on him from behind the door of his hotel suite shooting perch.

Stephen Schuck was one of the first people to encounter Paddock when he went to check out a faulty fire exit door on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay and Casino on Oct. 1, according to a new timeline of events.

Go to link. Has 5 minute video of interview with the maintenance man who was on the 32nd floor along with Campos. Interesting.





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DallasAg 94 said:

It was also mentioned that Campos used the "House Phone" to call before using his radio.

Was that a warning or trigger?

Paddock was killed.

Campos takes one for the team.
Calls down on house phone to initiate actions
Multiple gunmen reign fire down.
They escape out stairwell with security uniforms
Campos calls down on radio to Security center.
Campos claims he stopped the gunfire.

Original disclosure of Campos calling ending gunfire is true and accurate, as it pertains to the radio call.
FBI realizes a house phone was used to make a call 6 mins prior, but they don't disclose that, because they are tracking other people involved.
They disclose it to let people they are tracking know they are moving in... in order to get them to respond.

This is like one of those Murder Mystery dinners.

Please stop with the multiple shooter in the room theory. If there were more than one person in the room, they would know it from security footage. Watching the hall security camera to see who went in and out of his room (or any room nearby) would have been day one type of stuff, and those dudes faces would have been on the news that night.
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Brock Landers said:

drcrinum said:






Gal, claiming to be a co-worker of Jesus Campos who set up the Go Fund Me account for Jesus Campos, has deleted her Face Book account per /pol/, and a search by /pol/ shows she is not a licensed security guard.
Is she just a scammer??? Or....

Or what?

She doesn't have to be a security guard to be a co-worker. Maybe she deleted her facebook account because a bunch of tinfoil types started creeping her and messaging her. Maybe she is just a scammer.
On her Face Book page, it says she works for 'My Kingdom'.
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drcrinum said:

Brock Landers said:

drcrinum said:






Gal, claiming to be a co-worker of Jesus Campos who set up the Go Fund Me account for Jesus Campos, has deleted her Face Book account per /pol/, and a search by /pol/ shows she is not a licensed security guard.
Is she just a scammer??? Or....

Or what?

She doesn't have to be a security guard to be a co-worker. Maybe she deleted her facebook account because a bunch of tinfoil types started creeping her and messaging her. Maybe she is just a scammer.
On her Face Book page, it says she works for 'My Kingdom'.
Obviously thats code for My kinGdoM

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Urban Ag said:

There is no firearms registry in Nevada. Only a few states have any form of registry. I believe CA does but none of the weapons used, sans the handgun he supposedly killed himself with, could be legally purchased in CA. He also was clearly wearing gloves in the pic of his corpse. Not that it really matters as I am not disputing he was the shooter.
He apparently bought the guns from retail outlets. The ATF can trace the serial number from the manufacturer, through the distributor to the retailer, who then has the paperwork that shows who bought the gun. No state firearms registry needed to find the owner.

The only way they potentially couldn't link it to him is if he bought them all from private individuals. And from the press conferences, that was not the case.
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I'm not following the "unstated" Campos religion allusions above. Can someone spell that out for me...type slowly so I can follow it.
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Sid said:

I'm not following the "unstated" Campos religion allusions above. Can someone spell that out for me...type slowly so I can follow it.

The implication is that he could be a muslim.

You're welcome.
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I agree there was only one shooter but there were no hallway security cameras.
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Ellis Wyatt said:

Sid said:

I'm not following the "unstated" Campos religion allusions above. Can someone spell that out for me...type slowly so I can follow it.

The implication is that he could be a muslim.

You're welcome.

Thanks.
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It's time for Trey Gowdy to conduct sensational Congressional hearings, make inflammatory/threatening comments about all suspects, complete multiple rounds of TV/radio news shows, and then close the investigation with no meaningful results. Wait for it.
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