Since RFK Jr won't have the ability to effect change using "emergency powers", I'm really sure he will be more restrained and reasonable than was Fauci.Sapper Redux said:He's an absolutely insane human being whose ideas about health are a grab bag of the worst conspiracy theories and harmful beliefs, particularly around vaccines, that would lead to lasting harm if implemented.Quote:
RFK Jr will head a program to improve the health of American children
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Fauci is a consummate professional who is one of the lead editors of the preeminent internal medicine textbook in addition to all of his other roles. RFK Jr has zero medical experience and his beliefs are actively harmful to people. But other than that, it's perfectly comparable.Rongagin71 said:Since RFK Jr won't have the ability to effect change using "emergency powers", I'm really sure he will be more restrained and reasonable than was Fauci.Sapper Redux said:He's an absolutely insane human being whose ideas about health are a grab bag of the worst conspiracy theories and harmful beliefs, particularly around vaccines, that would lead to lasting harm if implemented.Quote:
RFK Jr will head a program to improve the health of American children
Fauci lied about funding dangerous research in China and at least one Senator has called for him to be imprisoned.
The US would have been better off if we had done the same thing as Sweden and not forced people to take vaccines that had very little effectiveness - as Fauci knew would happen because he knows how fast viruses like Covid mutate. Yet Fauci got on television and claimed the vaccine would be 90% effective, only later beginning to ask people to get multiple boosters - and even after boosters, people commonly caught Covid.
Sweden also kept its schools and businesses open and only used masks sparingly - and came out well.
The US would have been better off if we had done the same thing as Sweden and not forced people to take vaccines that had very little effectiveness - as Fauci knew would happen because he knows how fast viruses like Covid mutate. Yet Fauci got on television and claimed the vaccine would be 90% effective, only later beginning to ask people to get multiple boosters - and even after boosters, people commonly caught Covid.
Sweden also kept its schools and businesses open and only used masks sparingly - and came out well.
Which US Senator is that?
And Sweden had high excess mortality at the start of the pandemic that wound up closer to the other Nordic countries later on. However, unlike your presentation of the issue, they did engage in distancing and restrictions but based off of voluntary compliance. Based on how insane the response on the right has been about Covid, there is zero chance a similar approach in the U.S. would have resulted in similar death rates. The right didn't take Covid seriously. It's reflected in the death rates after early 2021 where right leaning parts of the country with low immunization rates had far higher rates of mortality.
And Sweden had high excess mortality at the start of the pandemic that wound up closer to the other Nordic countries later on. However, unlike your presentation of the issue, they did engage in distancing and restrictions but based off of voluntary compliance. Based on how insane the response on the right has been about Covid, there is zero chance a similar approach in the U.S. would have resulted in similar death rates. The right didn't take Covid seriously. It's reflected in the death rates after early 2021 where right leaning parts of the country with low immunization rates had far higher rates of mortality.
It's not that simple, the vaccine was ineffective but not useless, and certain areas of the country are just not as healthy as other areas.
But as for RFK JR, I will let him speak for himself about his concerns.
Edit to post Senator (and physician) Rand Paul vs Fauci....
But as for RFK JR, I will let him speak for himself about his concerns.
Edit to post Senator (and physician) Rand Paul vs Fauci....
So you believe that if more masks were worn and social distancing was mandated there would have been fewer Covid deaths?Sapper Redux said:
Which US Senator is that?
And Sweden had high excess mortality at the start of the pandemic that wound up closer to the other Nordic countries later on. However, unlike your presentation of the issue, they did engage in distancing and restrictions but based off of voluntary compliance. Based on how insane the response on the right has been about Covid, there is zero chance a similar approach in the U.S. would have resulted in similar death rates. The right didn't take Covid seriously. It's reflected in the death rates after early 2021 where right leaning parts of the country with low immunization rates had far higher rates of mortality.
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I figured it was Rand Paul. That man has zero credibility. I've heard RFK Jr speak. His concerns are bull**** and heavily infused with conspiracy theory bull*****
More use of the vaccines, distancing and testing when people have symptoms or are around symptomatic people, and following general public health guidelines.dermdoc said:So you believe that if more masks were worn and social distancing was mandated there would have been fewer Covid deaths?Sapper Redux said:
Which US Senator is that?
And Sweden had high excess mortality at the start of the pandemic that wound up closer to the other Nordic countries later on. However, unlike your presentation of the issue, they did engage in distancing and restrictions but based off of voluntary compliance. Based on how insane the response on the right has been about Covid, there is zero chance a similar approach in the U.S. would have resulted in similar death rates. The right didn't take Covid seriously. It's reflected in the death rates after early 2021 where right leaning parts of the country with low immunization rates had far higher rates of mortality.
Do you think insulting the intelligence of obviously intelligent men gains you something?
Baseline intelligence doesn't mean your beliefs are correct or logical. RFK Jr is full of ***** Dangerous *****
Perhaps you would have more respect for Mr Kennedy if I let him present his point of view in a less political video.
No, not really. I know the science and I know that his claims simply don't hold up. It's garbage peddled by conspiracy theorists that he tries to package as "common sense" or "just asking questions."
Not sure how people can still defend Fauci at this point. He lied and changed his mind so often it was hard to keep up with what the "truth" was at any given moment.
Did you catch the bit at 1:20 where Kennedy shows how he was interrupted to create a smear that has been often repeated calling him a crazy anti-vaxxer when his position is actually more nuanced?
He does think the drug companies have too much political pull and some changes need to be made to protect America's children - but only when proper study shows that will be effective.
Edit to add that "proper" study would be by independent researchers rather than the research that was paid for and controlled by the drug companies. He also wants to repeal the 1986 law protecting vaccines from lawsuit.
He does think the drug companies have too much political pull and some changes need to be made to protect America's children - but only when proper study shows that will be effective.
Edit to add that "proper" study would be by independent researchers rather than the research that was paid for and controlled by the drug companies. He also wants to repeal the 1986 law protecting vaccines from lawsuit.
some criticisms of him are certainly valid. but the level of hate the guy gets is next-level deranged. conservatives decided they wanted him locked up like 2 days into the pandemic.lobopride said:
Not sure how people can still defend Fauci at this point. He lied and changed his mind so often it was hard to keep up with what the "truth" was at any given moment.
Trump sued Bill Maher for $5 million because Maher joked about one of his parents being an orangutan.Silent For Too Long said:
For this post to work, you have to assume John Kelly wasn't uncomprehensibly sitting on something for 4 years instead of lying his ass off. Only someone severely lacking in cognitive functions would think that.
Trump has repeatedly shown a willingness to self deprecate and has an excellent sense of humor. We have decades of receipts to prove this. This kind of behavior is completely antithetical to fascists dictators.
It's really a bizarrely terrible line of attack but you just can't help yourself at this point, can you?
There's also no reason to really think John Kelly is lying. He's not known to be a dishonest person at all. He's also not some woke liberal. He's a four star general and is clearly a serious person. Trump, on the other hand, is known to be extremely dishonest, even by politician standards. However, this information is so damning that the only way to really attack it is to attack Kelly's credibility. So in that sense I get it.
There's every reason to think he is lying. The timing, lack of corroborating witnesses, his personal vitriol toward trump over firing him, and general implausibility of the claim. His reputation as a strict micro manager as well.
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Hahaha hahaha.
No one except the thoroughly brain washed took John Kelly's comments seriously. You and Sapper are so insulated by your echo chamber you are completely unaware that regular working class Americans are laughing at you.
No one except the thoroughly brain washed took John Kelly's comments seriously. You and Sapper are so insulated by your echo chamber you are completely unaware that regular working class Americans are laughing at you.
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No, not really. I know the science and I know that his claims simply don't hold up. It's garbage peddled by conspiracy theorists that he tries to package as "common sense" or "just asking questions."
Casey Means is an actual doctor and has incredibly important things to say about the poison we put in our bodies.
You know nothing John Sapper.
Also, Fausciist should be hanging from a short rope. He created Covid then used his power to hide his crime. He is a despicable evil human being. Basically every crazy thing you think in your head about Trump, actually applies to Fausciist.
people actually defend Fraduci yall must have zero brain cells. wow
He's been proved to be a snake oil salesman.
He's been proved to be a snake oil salesman.