Presidential Election

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In reply to Sapper Redux • 4:49p, 10/24/24
Sapper Redux said:
He's said he wants to deport millions, deny birthright citizenship, and doesn't care if he separates families again. But sure, just assume there's no threat of REAL violence inherent in his administration.
weird if families are worried about being separated maybe they shouldn't' cross the border illegally weird I know
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4:51p, 10/24/24
next yall are going to tell me Trump had a ban on Muslims coming to the US during his term
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In reply to barbacoa taco • 5:02p, 10/24/24
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barbacoa taco said:
Arabs breaking to Trump makes absolutely no sense. The only explanation is complete hatred of Democrats, which is understandable. Trump has been so outwardly racist and vile toward Arabs. He's made it clear he would fully support israel in absolutely flattening Palestine and wiping out the people there. He uses the term Palestinian as a slur and an insult. He clearly sees them as no more than vermin.

He'll be nice to those who say they're voting him, consistent with his transactional view of the world, and then quickly turn on them once he wins.


None of that is true.
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In reply to Tswizsle • 5:03p, 10/24/24
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That's not how it works. Trump gets credit for anything good that happened in the world during his term but not any of the blame for any of the bad stuff that happened in the world.

Let me show you how it works! Few new military conflicts breaking out during his term? Totally because of Trump. A global pandemic kills millions, including hundreds of thousands of Americans? Well none of that could possibly have anything to do with him!
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In reply to barbacoa taco • 5:08p, 10/24/24
The Abraham Accords were the greatest step towards peace in the middle east in any of our lifetimes. The Biden Admin tore it up because:

A.) They are such pathetic losers they couldn't allow Trump a W.

And

B.) The DNC is officially the MICs bottom *****, now, and peace is bad for business.

It's the exact same reason Blinken and Kamala were given marching orders to rip up the Ukraine peace negotiations.
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In reply to Rocag • 5:17p, 10/24/24
You are being incredibly dense.

America sits in the drivers seat of the world hegemony. Global peace is directly tied to the US President.

There is no conceivable way you can tie the Covid Lab Leak to Trump. It was nothing but terrible for his Presidency.

Jesus, Rocag, you normally at least have reasonable things to say.
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In reply to barbacoa taco • 5:19p, 10/24/24
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You can take this kind of talk to F16, keep it off of here. Trump ran one of the most corrupt presidencies in recent memory and both he and his business received millions from foreign governments. You really are acting like your **** don't stink here.


You've been nothing but swarmy this entire thread. Enough with your persecution complex.

What corruption? You are literally just making **** up now.
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In reply to barbacoa taco • 5:21p, 10/24/24
Hey you incredibly racist fool, a lot of "Arabs" don't like Palestinians either.

Good God man.

Like seriously, you just painted an entire region that includes dozens of nationalities and religious sects with the same broad brush. Just a pathetically ignorant thing to say.
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6:05p, 10/24/24
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The LA Times is still very liberal but has declined to endorse Harris.
The first video is a reaction as a lib editor resigns, the second video
is an interview from three years ago (COVID) of the multi-billionaire
who saved the Times from financial collapse.
https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/culture/justine-brooke-murray/2024/10/24/head-la-times-editorial-board-quits-calls-paper
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In reply to Silent For Too Long • 6:51p, 10/24/24
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Silent For Too Long said:
Hey you incredibly racist fool, a lot of "Arabs" don't like Palestinians either.

Good God man.

Like seriously, you just painted an entire region that includes dozens of nationalities and religious sects with the same broad brush. Just a pathetically ignorant thing to say.
Yikes.

So you call me a racist, then go on to say "but really those people are pretty bad"

This thread has really taken a turn.

And no I didn't. Palestinians are relevant to the conversation for obvious reasons. The issue of Palestine is precisely why Biden/Harris/the Democrats have lost Arab support. Because many Arab non-Palestinians are sympathetic to that cause. Many of them (e.g. Lebanese and Jordanians) are ethnically the same. I know what you are attempting to do with the "oh so you think all Arabs are the same" talk.
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In reply to Silent For Too Long • 7:09p, 10/24/24
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Silent For Too Long said:
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You can take this kind of talk to F16, keep it off of here. Trump ran one of the most corrupt presidencies in recent memory and both he and his business received millions from foreign governments. You really are acting like your **** don't stink here.


You've been nothing but swarmy this entire thread. Enough with your persecution complex.

What corruption? You are literally just making **** up now.
You did ask why I believe Trump is a fascist. I didn't expect you to agree but the response was hostile nonetheless.

Trump did not divest from his businesses during his presidency and made money off foreign governments during it, often hosting foreign officials and events at his properties. You can't do that if you're president. He really thinks the law does not apply to him, and this is just one tiny example.
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In reply to barbacoa taco • 7:31p, 10/24/24
Where did I say "but really these people are pretty bad."

You made an ignorant and racist statement. Be a big enough man to admit you messed up and move on.
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In reply to barbacoa taco • 7:33p, 10/24/24
Hostile? I engaged with your points one by one and showed the massive flaws in your thinking. It's a message board debate. That's what we do, here.
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In reply to barbacoa taco • 7:39p, 10/24/24
Once again, he LOST 2 billion in net worth while in office.
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In reply to Silent For Too Long • 9:27p, 10/24/24
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Silent For Too Long said:
You are being incredibly dense.

America sits in the drivers seat of the world hegemony. Global peace is directly tied to the US President.

There is no conceivable way you can tie the Covid Lab Leak to Trump. It was nothing but terrible for his Presidency.

Jesus, Rocag, you normally at least have reasonable things to say.
You're missing the sarcasm and you vastly overstate the importance of the United States and our President. The idea that the President of the United States somehow controls the world and all that exists within it is not just foolish, it's dangerous.

I don't think Trump deserves blame for the COVID outbreak (though perhaps for the US response to it) and I don't think he deserves credit for the relatively peaceful years. We have to acknowledge that the rest of the world matters and not everything that happens is about America.
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In reply to barbacoa taco • 5:09a, 10/25/24
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barbacoa taco said:
Silent For Too Long said:
Hey you incredibly racist fool, a lot of "Arabs" don't like Palestinians either.

Good God man.

Like seriously, you just painted an entire region that includes dozens of nationalities and religious sects with the same broad brush. Just a pathetically ignorant thing to say.
Yikes.

So you call me a racist, then go on to say "but really those people are pretty bad"

This thread has really taken a turn.

And no I didn't. Palestinians are relevant to the conversation for obvious reasons. The issue of Palestine is precisely why Biden/Harris/the Democrats have lost Arab support. Because many Arab non-Palestinians are sympathetic to that cause. Many of them (e.g. Lebanese and Jordanians) are ethnically the same. I know what you are attempting to do with the "oh so you think all Arabs are the same" talk.


Trump is doing well with arab voters (and Jewish voters, btw) partially as a result of arab American perceptions of Biden Harris bungling everything leading up to and since the October 7 terrorism. Which is fair, because the administration is responsible for much of the enrichment of Iran and via their exponentially higher oil revenues starting in January 2021, which led to the capability/wealth growth for Iranian proxy Hamas (and hezbollah) that led to the terror group's bold strike.

Basically, people who go to an abrahamic faith religious service once or more times a week, are much more likely to vote for Trump.
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In reply to Silent For Too Long • 10:37a, 10/25/24
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Silent For Too Long said:
Where did I say "but really these people are pretty bad."

You made an ignorant and racist statement. Be a big enough man to admit you messed up and move on.
My statement wasn't racist by any stretch of the imagination. You are being desperate at this point.

I commented on the ugly things Trump and Republicans have said about Palestinians, and your response was "you are aware some other Arabs don't like Palestinians too right?" How else can that statement be interpreted?

My point was that so many people have no humanity for this group of people, and Trump has made it clear he sees them as vermin. So for Arabs, many of whom sympathize with Palestinians, it makes no sense to support that.
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In reply to Silent For Too Long • 10:38a, 10/25/24
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Silent For Too Long said:
Once again, he LOST 2 billion in net worth while in office.
I don't care. As I've said before, and as everyone knows, it's not just about money. It's about power. And there's no one more powerful than POTUS.

Of course, if that number is correct, I also think it's because Trump owned business aren't doing as well since he entered politics because people see his brand as toxic.
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2:41p, 10/25/24
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"Kamala Harris has finally lost the Catholic vote. Her and the Democrat's persecution of the Catholic Church is unprecedented! Her poll numbers have dropped like a rock, both with Catholics, and otherwise. What took so long? RFK JR. has been pushing hard for Catholics to VOTE FOR TRUMP. Kamala again made a fool of herself last night at a Radical Left fundraiser, and this after putting on a very Low IQ display at a FAKE NEWS CNN Town Hall. She was almost incoherent, and even host Allison Cooper, who couldn't get her to make any sense, became agitated. Kamala is DEMANDING LATE TERM ABORTION, in months 7, 8, and 9, and even execution after birth, and people aren't buying it - and they never will. She is a Radical Left Lunatic!"

Yep.
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In reply to AGC • 5:27p, 10/25/24
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AGC said:
Frok said:
I'm a Christian and I'm voting for Trump. I'm not sure what a Christian Nationalist is. In my experience it's usually used as a derogatory term to discredit people who vote for candidates like Trump.

America is a post-Christian nation, I have no desire for the government to try to be Christian. I want a government that operates per the constitution.

Trump is not that conservative in that sense but he's the best choice we have right now.


I dunno, I mean what's wrong with that, a government that's Christian?

Christians converted emperors and kings historically. Land for the church was granted by tribal leaders, not purchased on the free market. Protection was granted from the reigning authorities, not as a result of a groundswell of opposition from the margins.

I'm not so sure Christian nationalism, as the slur goes, is all that misguided. I think the notion of church and state being separate is more anti-christian than not.


Well…in this country a lot.

Are the Protestants, Catholics or Orthodox running everything? Are we going to create more Church division by having denominational parties?

Let's say Protestants. What degree of wackiness are we going with? Seventh Day Adventist, Mormons, Jehovas Witnesses or just plain old crazy Assembly of God people?

The Protestant Christian's in this country can't be trusted. They had their chance.

Puritans swearing off the holidays?

Witch trials?

No more BJs and nailing the wife's in her "second & occasional option"?

Prohibition?

Sounds awesome….





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6:40p, 10/25/24
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I had a similar shift as Jeffrey Tucker 4 years ago, but for different reasons and still with certain reservations. I share his thoughts here as a break from the dominant left/right paradigm. He highlights much that is obvious to ordinary Americans.

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In reply to 747Ag • 6:57p, 10/25/24
Thanks for sharing. I agree with a lot of what he has to say there.
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In reply to 747Ag • 8:11p, 10/25/24
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Good read, very similar to what I have come to believe.

Edit to add that the Rogan interview of Trump (15million followed) was also very good.
The old man showed excellent memory and his tendency to wander when speaking is no worse than ever.

Second edit. Trump was not under constant attack like he normally is from the media, so he appeared much more normal and even humble. Got to see the real Trump rather the created image Trump.
Another million viewers have seen it.
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11:53a, 10/26/24
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From F16
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In reply to Rongagin71 • 12:49p, 10/26/24
For those photos to work, you have to assume he actually cares about Jewish people. I've seen no evidence he cares about anyone save Donald Trump. Also, why does he want Hitler's generals?
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1:33p, 10/26/24
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In reply to Sapper Redux • 5:02a, 10/27/24
For this post to work, you have to assume John Kelly wasn't uncomprehensibly sitting on something for 4 years instead of lying his ass off. Only someone severely lacking in cognitive functions would think that.

Trump has repeatedly shown a willingness to self deprecate and has an excellent sense of humor. We have decades of receipts to prove this. This kind of behavior is completely antithetical to fascists dictators.

It's really a bizarrely terrible line of attack but you just can't help yourself at this point, can you?
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6:50a, 10/27/24
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Powerful message.

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10:04a, 10/27/24
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LOL, truth.

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4:04p, 10/27/24
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It is well known that if Trump is elected, that RFK Jr will head a program to improve the health of American children. Elon Musk probably won't have time to head up a program to improve govt efficiency, but he continues to show interest in that topic.
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In reply to nortex97 • 4:43p, 10/27/24
nortex97 said:
LOL, truth.



My gosh. Yet another reason politicians should not be allowed pulpit time.
“If you’re going to have crime it should at least be organized crime”
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In reply to UTExan • 4:50p, 10/27/24
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I would leave my church and never come back if a politician of any party was given time to speak during a service. The leaders of these churches should be ashamed of themselves.
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In reply to Rongagin71 • 5:05p, 10/27/24
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RFK Jr will head a program to improve the health of American children
He's an absolutely insane human being whose ideas about health are a grab bag of the worst conspiracy theories and harmful beliefs, particularly around vaccines, that would lead to lasting harm if implemented.
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In reply to Sapper Redux • 5:40p, 10/27/24
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Sapper Redux said:
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RFK Jr will head a program to improve the health of American children
He's an absolutely insane human being whose ideas about health are a grab bag of the worst conspiracy theories and harmful beliefs, particularly around vaccines, that would lead to lasting harm if implemented.


Relax. He is not a Democrat anymore...
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5:54p, 10/27/24
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Christians need to do a better job of showing up in the primaries. Neither Trump nor Harris are a proper choice for a Christ follower. The ones who are choosing these candidates are the ones who are mad at the other side, not the ones who want to change things for the better.
"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Aggieland!" -Davy Crockett
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