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Kay. Ask him for lottery numbers next. This is how psychics work. You take something very likely and add a bit of detail so that if it happens you look like you have foresight and if it doesn't happen, or something close to it happens, you can gloss over what you got wrong.

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The Banned said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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Kay. Ask him for lottery numbers next. This is how psychics work. You take something very likely and add a bit of detail so that if it happens you look like you have foresight and if it doesn't happen, or something close to it happens, you can gloss over what you got wrong.

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I think using some of Sapper's criticism is wise. How many "end of the world" prophets have we seen? I'm not saying this absolutely CAN'T be prophecy, but I'd like to see this guys hit rate on other predictions before saying this was divinely inspired

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Sapper Redux said:

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Kay. Ask him for lottery numbers next. This is how psychics work. You take something very likely and add a bit of detail so that if it happens you look like you have foresight and if it doesn't happen, or something close to it happens, you can gloss over what you got wrong.

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Macarthur said:

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RAB91 said:

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God was definitely looking out for Trump yesterday.

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I've seen this sentiment all over social media.

As much as I dislike the man, I'm very glad he is okay and this type of thing is reprehensible, but do you really believe this?

I mean, was God looking after the poor guy in the crowd that got his head blown open?

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Macarthur said:

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What if the guy in the crowd was a Muslim?

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dermdoc said:

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kurt vonnegut said:

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jonb02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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Kay. Ask him for lottery numbers next. This is how psychics work. You take something very likely and add a bit of detail so that if it happens you look like you have foresight and if it doesn't happen, or something close to it happens, you can gloss over what you got wrong.

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But ask yourself how likely is it that he would be spot on about the bullet damaging his right ear. It's one thing to say someone is going to kill or try to kill Trump. Given the political mess we are in it's not a stretch for someone to predict that someone would try to kill Trump so I'm not even talking about that. It's an entirely other thing to say a bullet is going to come so close to killing him that it's going to damage his right ear. That is very specific details and not the same thing as a busted clock being right twice a day.

Sorry I have to disagree with you on this one.

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According to the prediction, after Trump was to duck down, he would have a profound religious experience. The reports I saw said that Trump asked several times about his shoes directly after the shooting. But, that aside, would it be a fair assessment of this prophecy that, if true, we should expect Trump to have been changed or affected by this religious experience? The prediction is that he becomes 'really on fire for Jesus . . .' after this.

I'm open to withholding judgement of the prophecy until we see if he's been changed to be more Christ-like. And what are characteristics of someone that is Christ-like? Someone that is kind, loving, respectful, understanding, patient, humble, compassionate, forgiving, etc.? Feel free to modify my description of 'Christ-like'.

I propose that we monitor Trump's comments and social media posts going forward and we can evaluate together whether his comments meet the description above. It will be a fun experiment.

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Agree.

Just a slight modification as you definitely get the idea of being Christ like.

The fruits of the Spirit as listed in Scripture are peace, joy, love, patience, kindness, gentleness, generosity, faithfulness, and self control.

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BluHorseShu said:

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dermdoc said:

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kurt vonnegut said:

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jonb02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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Kay. Ask him for lottery numbers next. This is how psychics work. You take something very likely and add a bit of detail so that if it happens you look like you have foresight and if it doesn't happen, or something close to it happens, you can gloss over what you got wrong.

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But ask yourself how likely is it that he would be spot on about the bullet damaging his right ear. It's one thing to say someone is going to kill or try to kill Trump. Given the political mess we are in it's not a stretch for someone to predict that someone would try to kill Trump so I'm not even talking about that. It's an entirely other thing to say a bullet is going to come so close to killing him that it's going to damage his right ear. That is very specific details and not the same thing as a busted clock being right twice a day.

Sorry I have to disagree with you on this one.

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According to the prediction, after Trump was to duck down, he would have a profound religious experience. The reports I saw said that Trump asked several times about his shoes directly after the shooting. But, that aside, would it be a fair assessment of this prophecy that, if true, we should expect Trump to have been changed or affected by this religious experience? The prediction is that he becomes 'really on fire for Jesus . . .' after this.

I'm open to withholding judgement of the prophecy until we see if he's been changed to be more Christ-like. And what are characteristics of someone that is Christ-like? Someone that is kind, loving, respectful, understanding, patient, humble, compassionate, forgiving, etc.? Feel free to modify my description of 'Christ-like'.

I propose that we monitor Trump's comments and social media posts going forward and we can evaluate together whether his comments meet the description above. It will be a fun experiment.

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Agree.

Just a slight modification as you definitely get the idea of being Christ like.

The fruits of the Spirit as listed in Scripture are peace, joy, love, patience, kindness, gentleness, generosity, faithfulness, and self control.

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I agree with you Doc, but also that either sets of 'fruits' you both listed are not currently observed in the man. So I too pray for Trump to realize how impactful this moment is and the opportunity it presents for him to change...not just for himself but for the prosperity of the country.

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dermdoc said:

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BluHorseShu said:

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dermdoc said:

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kurt vonnegut said:

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jonb02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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Kay. Ask him for lottery numbers next. This is how psychics work. You take something very likely and add a bit of detail so that if it happens you look like you have foresight and if it doesn't happen, or something close to it happens, you can gloss over what you got wrong.

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But ask yourself how likely is it that he would be spot on about the bullet damaging his right ear. It's one thing to say someone is going to kill or try to kill Trump. Given the political mess we are in it's not a stretch for someone to predict that someone would try to kill Trump so I'm not even talking about that. It's an entirely other thing to say a bullet is going to come so close to killing him that it's going to damage his right ear. That is very specific details and not the same thing as a busted clock being right twice a day.

Sorry I have to disagree with you on this one.

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According to the prediction, after Trump was to duck down, he would have a profound religious experience. The reports I saw said that Trump asked several times about his shoes directly after the shooting. But, that aside, would it be a fair assessment of this prophecy that, if true, we should expect Trump to have been changed or affected by this religious experience? The prediction is that he becomes 'really on fire for Jesus . . .' after this.

I'm open to withholding judgement of the prophecy until we see if he's been changed to be more Christ-like. And what are characteristics of someone that is Christ-like? Someone that is kind, loving, respectful, understanding, patient, humble, compassionate, forgiving, etc.? Feel free to modify my description of 'Christ-like'.

I propose that we monitor Trump's comments and social media posts going forward and we can evaluate together whether his comments meet the description above. It will be a fun experiment.

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Agree.

Just a slight modification as you definitely get the idea of being Christ like.

The fruits of the Spirit as listed in Scripture are peace, joy, love, patience, kindness, gentleness, generosity, faithfulness, and self control.

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I agree with you Doc, but also that either sets of 'fruits' you both listed are not currently observed in the man. So I too pray for Trump to realize how impactful this moment is and the opportunity it presents for him to change...not just for himself but for the prosperity of the country.

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Some of the Bible's biggest faith heroes were very Trump like. David, Moses, Jacob, Jonah, Abraham (passed his wife off as his sister), etc.

In fact, it seems as if God chose a lot of folks like Trump in the past.

We shall see.

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kurt vonnegut said:

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How would you determine if Trump is an agent of God or of the devil?

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dermdoc said:

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BluHorseShu said:

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dermdoc said:

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kurt vonnegut said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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Kay. Ask him for lottery numbers next. This is how psychics work. You take something very likely and add a bit of detail so that if it happens you look like you have foresight and if it doesn't happen, or something close to it happens, you can gloss over what you got wrong.

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But ask yourself how likely is it that he would be spot on about the bullet damaging his right ear. It's one thing to say someone is going to kill or try to kill Trump. Given the political mess we are in it's not a stretch for someone to predict that someone would try to kill Trump so I'm not even talking about that. It's an entirely other thing to say a bullet is going to come so close to killing him that it's going to damage his right ear. That is very specific details and not the same thing as a busted clock being right twice a day.

Sorry I have to disagree with you on this one.

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According to the prediction, after Trump was to duck down, he would have a profound religious experience. The reports I saw said that Trump asked several times about his shoes directly after the shooting. But, that aside, would it be a fair assessment of this prophecy that, if true, we should expect Trump to have been changed or affected by this religious experience? The prediction is that he becomes 'really on fire for Jesus . . .' after this.

I'm open to withholding judgement of the prophecy until we see if he's been changed to be more Christ-like. And what are characteristics of someone that is Christ-like? Someone that is kind, loving, respectful, understanding, patient, humble, compassionate, forgiving, etc.? Feel free to modify my description of 'Christ-like'.

I propose that we monitor Trump's comments and social media posts going forward and we can evaluate together whether his comments meet the description above. It will be a fun experiment.

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Agree.

Just a slight modification as you definitely get the idea of being Christ like.

The fruits of the Spirit as listed in Scripture are peace, joy, love, patience, kindness, gentleness, generosity, faithfulness, and self control.

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I agree with you Doc, but also that either sets of 'fruits' you both listed are not currently observed in the man. So I too pray for Trump to realize how impactful this moment is and the opportunity it presents for him to change...not just for himself but for the prosperity of the country.

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Some of the Bible's biggest faith heroes were very Trump like. David, Moses, Jacob, Jonah, Abraham (passed his wife off as his sister), etc.

In fact, it seems as if God chose a lot of folks like Trump in the past.

We shall see.

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Sapper Redux said:

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dermdoc said:

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BluHorseShu said:

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dermdoc said:

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kurt vonnegut said:

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jonb02 said:

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Sapper Redux said:

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Kay. Ask him for lottery numbers next. This is how psychics work. You take something very likely and add a bit of detail so that if it happens you look like you have foresight and if it doesn't happen, or something close to it happens, you can gloss over what you got wrong.

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But ask yourself how likely is it that he would be spot on about the bullet damaging his right ear. It's one thing to say someone is going to kill or try to kill Trump. Given the political mess we are in it's not a stretch for someone to predict that someone would try to kill Trump so I'm not even talking about that. It's an entirely other thing to say a bullet is going to come so close to killing him that it's going to damage his right ear. That is very specific details and not the same thing as a busted clock being right twice a day.

Sorry I have to disagree with you on this one.

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According to the prediction, after Trump was to duck down, he would have a profound religious experience. The reports I saw said that Trump asked several times about his shoes directly after the shooting. But, that aside, would it be a fair assessment of this prophecy that, if true, we should expect Trump to have been changed or affected by this religious experience? The prediction is that he becomes 'really on fire for Jesus . . .' after this.

I'm open to withholding judgement of the prophecy until we see if he's been changed to be more Christ-like. And what are characteristics of someone that is Christ-like? Someone that is kind, loving, respectful, understanding, patient, humble, compassionate, forgiving, etc.? Feel free to modify my description of 'Christ-like'.

I propose that we monitor Trump's comments and social media posts going forward and we can evaluate together whether his comments meet the description above. It will be a fun experiment.

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Agree.

Just a slight modification as you definitely get the idea of being Christ like.

The fruits of the Spirit as listed in Scripture are peace, joy, love, patience, kindness, gentleness, generosity, faithfulness, and self control.

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I agree with you Doc, but also that either sets of 'fruits' you both listed are not currently observed in the man. So I too pray for Trump to realize how impactful this moment is and the opportunity it presents for him to change...not just for himself but for the prosperity of the country.

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Some of the Bible's biggest faith heroes were very Trump like. David, Moses, Jacob, Jonah, Abraham (passed his wife off as his sister), etc.

In fact, it seems as if God chose a lot of folks like Trump in the past.

We shall see.

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The only comparable figure in your list (going by the biblical text) is David, whom the Bible is clear was weakened and degraded by his sins leading to a civil war amongst his sons. Not exactly a ringing endorsement.

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dermdoc said:

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Macarthur said:

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But that still doesn't reconcile the original point of why would God intervene w Trump and not others?


The little ones in Uvalde could have used some help.

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The age old question of why is there so much evil. And why does a good God allow it.

I read Job.

And I have faith this is not the only life we will live.

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kurt vonnegut said:

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How would you determine if Trump is an agent of God or of the devil?

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