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Which of course don't deserve to live.

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Quite a straw man, and the a veiled assault on my character as well.

There is a little something called "Risk Analysis".

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I apologize if this was an attack on your character. It was meant to be a little snarky but not meant as an attack.


Having said that, your comment was about the 1% that have died are either old or obese or infimed. I still think you should have to elaborate on why that matters. Does an old person not deserve to live another 5 years? 10? I know the answer is, yes, but the implication is that they only deserve to, up to a point, that everyone else is inconvienienced. So, I'm curious how we get to that point...

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My point is that in a pandemic, the deaths will be that percentage of the population that are most vulnerable, and with covid it has largely been those three groups: Old, Infirm, Obese.

Rather than conduct something of a risk analysis and assess risk across cohorts, we've pretended that everyone is equally at risk when that couldn't be further from the truth.

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It's funny because they are punishing the people and businesses in Ottawa.

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You're right....if only they were less disruptive for the local businesses... maybe like BLM (Burn/Loot/Murder) was.

I appreciate your Amelia Bedelia like loyalty to literalism.

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It's funny because they are punishing the people and businesses in Ottawa.

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You're right....if only they were less disruptive for the local businesses... maybe like BLM (Burn/Loot/Murder) was.

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Yeah, that crazy BLM and Antifa

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/texas-man-boogaloo-movement-pleads-guilty-firing-police-station-floyd-rcna2499

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/23/texas-boogaloo-boi-minneapolis-police-building-george-floyd

https://abcnews.go.com/US/twitter-removes-account-white-nationalist-group-posing-antifa/story?id=71024345

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/06/22/who-caused-violence-protests-its-not-antifa/


Rather, the bulletin said that "the greatest threat of lethal violence continues to emanate from lone offenders with racially or ethnically motivated violent extremist ideologies and [domestic violent extremists] with personalized ideologies," specifically pointing to boogaloo-related groups as likely to be "instigating violence" at the protests.

https://theintercept.com/2020/07/15/george-floyd-protests-police-far-right-antifa/

I'm sure these are the kinds of videos you promote from the BLM protests. I'm just sure of it. You'd never be disingenuous in your beliefs.

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COVID and livestreaming are absolutely becoming a lame excuse for some.

If you're skipping church out of convenience at this point you are sinning.

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Do they get a pass if they make sure their tithe gets delivered on time?

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How about this uncalled for shot.

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I dunno man. It might be uncalled for, for you specifically. I can't say. But it might also be exactly the question that needs to be asked in the general sense. Economic pressures effect all of us at some point. I'm sure tithing is directly correlated to physical attendance.

Couldn't one assume that God allowed live streaming to be a thing for situations such as this?

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If you're skipping church out of convenience at this point you are sinning.

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Which Book/Chapter/Verse says that live streaming doesn't 'count'?

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Which of course don't deserve to live.

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What a nasty motive to attribute to someone. You should be ashamed. You're not arguing in good faith.

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You just said in a reply to me that, "they are about to die anyway." Pretty clear you don't give a damn about them.

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What I said was true. It's a sad fact of life. You saying I don't care is a horrible thing to say. It's not true, and It makes you a bad person to make a baseless accusation like that.

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You have accused both of us of being bad people but all we have done is point out that you posted that people that died from covid 'were dying anyway'. That was an incredibly insensitive thing to say, not to mention that it's a very dubious claim. You are aware that people live into old age with 'comorbidities'?

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just because you think I was insensitive doesn't mean I dont care. It's not honest, and it was a horrible thing to say. I disagree with you and like I said you're not arguing in good faith. I think you're wrong about the facts, and your perspective. That's fine, but to attribute that motive is wrong.

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Well, you said what you said. I guess everyone can read it and come to their own conclusion.

I want to know what 'fact' I am wrong about.

I want to know what I have argued in bad faith.

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Misprepresing me as someone who doesn't care for those who are about to die. I've spent countless hours in nursing homes with people I don't even know.

I think your statistics are all misleading propaganda. It may have been someone else that was using wrong statistics. It's hard to argue with multiple people at once.

Besides the fact that I said people who are sick don't have to go to church, you are trying to paint it like i don't care.

It's just wrong.

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As an observer, your words/attitude really do come off as someone who doesn't care.

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I know quite a few folks that used to attend church regularly before COVID started, but now skip church using COVID as the excuse. They won't go to church, but continue to go to work, the grocery store, etc. Guess they were looking for an excuse to come along. Just an observation.

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I think there are people that are unhappy with the way many churches and preachers have acted the last two years and they stopped attending church for that reason. There is a big church near me that lost a lot of their congregation because they were unhappy with the preacher and the other members attitudes toward Covid. Reasons I've heard were : lack of Covid precautions, not seeming to care if church members got sick or died, trying to cover up when the preacher and other staff got sick with Covid, etc.

It wouldn't surprise me if same thing has happened across the country. Would explain drop in church attendance.