Infants aren't approved to receive the covid vaccine
schmendeler said:
Infants aren't approved to receive the covid vaccine
one MEEN Ag said:schmendeler said:
Infants aren't approved to receive the covid vaccine
Yet. Aren't approved, yet. Don't you worry, the same companies that are trying to push the vaccine on 5 year olds even as other countries stop at 18 because of heart issues will one day push it onto even younger kids.
A) That number is inflated as it includes those who died with COVID not of COVID, and the people who counted the dead are the hospitals getting paid for COVID deaths.Sapper Redux said:one MEEN Ag said:schmendeler said:
Infants aren't approved to receive the covid vaccine
Yet. Aren't approved, yet. Don't you worry, the same companies that are trying to push the vaccine on 5 year olds even as other countries stop at 18 because of heart issues will one day push it onto even younger kids.
It never ceases to amaze me that 900,000 dead is no big deal, but a vaccine is the end of the world for some people.
Oh were now allowed to use top level excess deaths here? And you're claiming all of those are straight up COVID deaths. No suicides or drug overdose due to lockdowns or vaccines reactions. Great. And would this be a good time when we bring up the age related breakout graphs that show a way way way above standard deviations of younger people dying that only appears after the vaccine comes out? A German healthcare exec said it would be equivalent to a 1-400 year random event for this many young people to die.schmendeler said:
"A) That number is inflated as it includes those who died with COVID not of COVID, and the people who counted the dead are the hospitals getting paid for COVID deaths."
This talking point is gutted when you look at excess deaths since 2020. Something came on the scene and killed a **** ton more people than statistically normal.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
schmendeler said:
"A) That number is inflated as it includes those who died with COVID not of COVID, and the people who counted the dead are the hospitals getting paid for COVID deaths."
This talking point is gutted when you look at excess deaths since 2020. Something came on the scene and killed a **** ton more people than statistically normal.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/excess_deaths.htm
Plz explain the science:
— Richie🎥McG🍿 (@RichieMcGinniss) March 23, 2022
Spectators are not required to wear masks at Caps game in DC… but the first graders playing at intermission are all wearing them under their helmets? pic.twitter.com/zkgce00wqa
Star Wars Memes Only said:
They want you to forget they did this.
— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) May 12, 2023
Do not. Because if given the chance, they would do it again. pic.twitter.com/aheD56Zkvi
Makes you wonder if most people who copied line for line propaganda noticed when the same propaganda machine said the opposite. Typically happens that way or they just adopt old faithful "well we didn't know and then we got stats so now we know and you're still a POS" The religion of moving the goal posts. Hard to love your enemies but necessary.Doinked Field Goal said:They want you to forget they did this.
— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) May 12, 2023
Do not. Because if given the chance, they would do it again. pic.twitter.com/aheD56Zkvi
Doinked Field Goal said:They want you to forget they did this.
— DeSantis War Room 🐊 (@DeSantisWarRoom) May 12, 2023
Do not. Because if given the chance, they would do it again. pic.twitter.com/aheD56Zkvi
Still all speculation. No one has confirmed this. Tabloid conjecture until otherwise.Doinked Field Goal said:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/health-shocker-jamie-foxx-left-paralyzed-and-blind-from-blood-clot-in-his-brain-after-receiving-covid-19-vaccine-source-claims/ar-AA1bZrwx
dermdoc said:
What is fascinating is that the "party of science" does not accept actual scientific data.
And refuse to admit they were wrong.
Blue koolaid.
The first 2 jabs and maybe one booster helped with severity of disease and mortality rates in elderly and endangered populations.Sapper Redux said:dermdoc said:
What is fascinating is that the "party of science" does not accept actual scientific data.
And refuse to admit they were wrong.
Blue koolaid.
Which scientific data are you specifically referring to?
dermdoc said:
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/breakthrough-covid-cases-commonplace-experts-set-expectations-vaccine/story?id=85570454
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2207270
Friend of mine lost a 20 y/o son to myocarditis after getting the vax.
Quote:
Overall, the rates of myocarditis following SARS-CoV-2 infection are much higher than after vaccination.17 Data from the largest integrated health care organization in Israel indicate that SARS-CoV-2 infection is associated with an excess risk of myocarditis when compared with age- and risk-matched controls (risk ratio 18.3 and risk difference 11.0 events per 100,000 persons) that is much higher than the excess risk of myocarditis following administration of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine (risk ratio 3.2 and risk difference 2.7 events per 100,000 persons).
dermdoc said:The first 2 jabs and maybe one booster helped with severity of disease and mortality rates in elderly and endangered populations.Sapper Redux said:dermdoc said:
What is fascinating is that the "party of science" does not accept actual scientific data.
And refuse to admit they were wrong.
Blue koolaid.
Which scientific data are you specifically referring to?
The vax did not prevent spread of the virus which is the main point of a vaccine. We were lied to.
And when it all said and done, I think stats will show more unexpected sudden deaths in healthy young people who got the vax.
Anybody who gets the boosters now is nuts.
But unlike libs, I am not about forcing Americans to do anything they do not want to do. I will give what I think is good medical advice to my patients.
ramblin_ag02 said:dermdoc said:The first 2 jabs and maybe one booster helped with severity of disease and mortality rates in elderly and endangered populations.Sapper Redux said:dermdoc said:
What is fascinating is that the "party of science" does not accept actual scientific data.
And refuse to admit they were wrong.
Blue koolaid.
Which scientific data are you specifically referring to?
The vax did not prevent spread of the virus which is the main point of a vaccine. We were lied to.
And when it all said and done, I think stats will show more unexpected sudden deaths in healthy young people who got the vax.
Anybody who gets the boosters now is nuts.
But unlike libs, I am not about forcing Americans to do anything they do not want to do. I will give what I think is good medical advice to my patients.
Your first point is accurate but not precise. The vaccines were fantastic >99% at preventing disease and spread of the alpha strain. It was still >80% for delta. We saw no community spread in places with high vaccine rate until the omicron strain. So from Feb 2021 to Dec 2021 the vaccines were fantastic.
From omicron onward, the vaccines are only helpful for reducing severity. Between genetic drift and widespread immunity, COVID is basically at flu level right now. I haven't admitted anyone for COVID since last November. I'm only recommending vaccines for the sick and elderly now, and even then only newly updated vaccines. The next will probably come out in the fall
But you may or may not get Covid. Once you get the vax, you are guaranteed having a higher rate of myocarditis if you are a young male.Sapper Redux said:dermdoc said:
https://abcnews.go.com/Health/breakthrough-covid-cases-commonplace-experts-set-expectations-vaccine/story?id=85570454
https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2207270
Friend of mine lost a 20 y/o son to myocarditis after getting the vax.
You realize myocarditis rates are much higher with a Covid infection, right? And that myocarditis rates from the vaccine are in line with other vaccines?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1551713622000642?via%3DihubQuote:
Overall, the rates of myocarditis following SARS-CoV-2 infection are much higher than after vaccination.17 Data from the largest integrated health care organization in Israel indicate that SARS-CoV-2 infection is associated with an excess risk of myocarditis when compared with age- and risk-matched controls (risk ratio 18.3 and risk difference 11.0 events per 100,000 persons) that is much higher than the excess risk of myocarditis following administration of Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine (risk ratio 3.2 and risk difference 2.7 events per 100,000 persons).