Not really, your days are numbered.dargscisyhp said:PA24 said:
Psalms 90:10 was written by Moses, the author of the Pentateuch, first 5 books of the Bible.
It reads man will live to be 70, 80 if he is healthy.
Average age in America is 78 for man.
In the world is 76.
He nailed it.
And if he lives any longer we'll ensure conditions are such that he's taken out!
PA24 said:Who doesn't like ice cream, chocolate ice cream mixed with some chocolate syrup and crushed nuts.PacifistAg said:PA24 said:
Psalms 90:10
Is this supposed to be your way of justifying a dismissive attitude about the deaths of those created in God's image?
Yep, I understand the crave for things we shouldn't do and if we do, only in moderation.
PA24 said:Not really, your days are numbered.dargscisyhp said:PA24 said:
Psalms 90:10 was written by Moses, the author of the Pentateuch, first 5 books of the Bible.
It reads man will live to be 70, 80 if he is healthy.
Average age in America is 78 for man.
In the world is 76.
He nailed it.
And if he lives any longer we'll ensure conditions are such that he's taken out!
God is in control.
Days are setdargscisyhp said:PA24 said:Not really, your days are numbered.dargscisyhp said:PA24 said:
Psalms 90:10 was written by Moses, the author of the Pentateuch, first 5 books of the Bible.
It reads man will live to be 70, 80 if he is healthy.
Average age in America is 78 for man.
In the world is 76.
He nailed it.
And if he lives any longer we'll ensure conditions are such that he's taken out!
God is in control.
Yea, but like, you don't have to help him number your days though.
dargscisyhp said:PA24 said:Not really, your days are numbered.dargscisyhp said:PA24 said:
Psalms 90:10 was written by Moses, the author of the Pentateuch, first 5 books of the Bible.
It reads man will live to be 70, 80 if he is healthy.
Average age in America is 78 for man.
In the world is 76.
He nailed it.
And if he lives any longer we'll ensure conditions are such that he's taken out!
God is in control.
Yea, but like, you don't have to help him number your days though.
dermdoc said:powerbelly said:
I would hope my church would take care of struggling members no matter how they ended up struggling.
Agree. But as a Christian and a doc I would encourage them to get the "vaccination".
Catag94 said:dermdoc said:powerbelly said:
I would hope my church would take care of struggling members no matter how they ended up struggling.
Agree. But as a Christian and a doc I would encourage them to get the "vaccination".
As a Christian, I believe in trusting in Christ through faith and!
think seeking the vaccination is an expression of a lack of faith.
I hope the church supports the struggling family.
Edit to add quotes around the word vaccination seeing as how frequently those who have been inoculated with it comedown with and/or die from the virus.
This is the kind of faith that gets people's kids taken away from them, and for good reason.Catag94 said:
As a Christian, I believe in trusting in Christ through faith and think seeking the vaccination is an expression of a lack of faith.
Duncan Idaho said:Catag94 said:dermdoc said:powerbelly said:
I would hope my church would take care of struggling members no matter how they ended up struggling.
Agree. But as a Christian and a doc I would encourage them to get the "vaccination".
As a Christian, I believe in trusting in Christ through faith and!
think seeking the vaccination is an expression of a lack of faith.
I hope the church supports the struggling family.
Edit to add quotes around the word vaccination seeing as how frequently those who have been inoculated with it comedown with and/or die from the virus.
Curious as to your thoughts on car seats and seat belts. Are those an expression of a lack of faith
And apparently a huge chunk of the medical community has gone anti-science when they continue to support vaccine mandates while ignoring natural immunity.ramblin_ag02 said:
Apparently the evangelical movement has gone full Christian Science. What's the difference between mRNA, virus proteins, antibiotics, surgery, and plain old bleach? After all, God gave us immune systems to fight everything, right? When it's our time it's our time? At least the Christian Scientists are consistent with their faith. They don't refuse a vaccine and then show up in the ER expecting modern medicine to perform miracles when they get sick from a preventable illness.
And millions of Americans have already had covid and recovered. To force them to take an unneeded vaccine is anti-science and immoral.ramblin_ag02 said:
The problem with natural immunity is that you have to get infected and risk a potentially serious and fatal infection. Encouraging natural immunity is the same thing as doing absolutely nothing until people get sick, sometimes really sick. That's unconscionable when we have cheap, safe, and effective prevention
powerbelly said:
Do you feel the same about all vaccines, or just this one?
ramblin_ag02 said:
The problem with natural immunity is that you have to get infected and risk a potentially serious and fatal infection. Encouraging natural immunity is the same thing as doing absolutely nothing until people get sick, sometimes really sick. That's unconscionable when we have cheap, safe, and effective prevention
Dilettante said:
mRNA doesn't program cells.
ramblin_ag02 said:
Just clarify, mRNA is already in your body. The natural process is DNA -> mRNA -> protein. mRNA is incredibly fragile and lasts a very short time. Nearly all the engineering in the vaccines is getting the mRNA not to degrade in seconds.
Traditional vaccines are made with viral proteins. But viral proteins are very hard to make, and even more difficult to customize. So instead spending years and fortunes to make factories to specifically make each viral protein, we can just have your body do what it already does it make the protein itself. Your body then gets an immune response to the protein the exact same way it would with a traditional vaccine. The mRNA is broken down within hours and does not cause any immune response by itself.
It really is the same idea as prior vaccinations, just much easier. Proteins are the hardest things to manufacture. DNA and RNA are easy
Catag94 said:Duncan Idaho said:Catag94 said:dermdoc said:powerbelly said:
I would hope my church would take care of struggling members no matter how they ended up struggling.
Agree. But as a Christian and a doc I would encourage them to get the "vaccination".
As a Christian, I believe in trusting in Christ through faith and!
think seeking the vaccination is an expression of a lack of faith.
I hope the church supports the struggling family.
Edit to add quotes around the word vaccination seeing as how frequently those who have been inoculated with it comedown with and/or die from the virus.
Curious as to your thoughts on car seats and seat belts. Are those an expression of a lack of faith
Not the same and I believe you know that.
God created me an immune system and a cellular structure that is designed by Him to fight viruses. I trust it to do the job and will not inject a man made mRNA substance as a substitute for that trust. When my time to be absent the body and present with Jesus does come, I welcome it without fear. And, it will come at the time appointed. None of us is able to add one moment to our lives.
Your seatbelt comparison is disingenuous.
Catag94 said:ramblin_ag02 said:
The problem with natural immunity is that you have to get infected and risk a potentially serious and fatal infection. Encouraging natural immunity is the same thing as doing absolutely nothing until people get sick, sometimes really sick. That's unconscionable when we have cheap, safe, and effective prevention
So we published hugest numbers of cases of infection and learned as a result that overall the survival rate is 99+%. We also have over 15 studies that indicate natural immunity is far superior. We also are steadily documenting case of infection in previously "vaxxed" patients daily ( and confirmed re-infections have been extremely rare). So, I think the risks are substantially lower than your argument would attempt to suggest. I think it's a bit early to confirm the safety of these "vaccines" and some would argue you're wrong in indicating the injection is "Safe". Further, its effectiveness is becoming more abs more doubtful daily.
Better terminology exists. Do I understand how mRNA works? Yes. I'm not sure if that's the question.Catag94 said:Dilettante said:
mRNA doesn't program cells.
I literally said "..for lack of better terminology.."
Do you understand how it works?
Catag94 said:ramblin_ag02 said:
Just clarify, mRNA is already in your body. The natural process is DNA -> mRNA -> protein. mRNA is incredibly fragile and lasts a very short time. Nearly all the engineering in the vaccines is getting the mRNA not to degrade in seconds.
Traditional vaccines are made with viral proteins. But viral proteins are very hard to make, and even more difficult to customize. So instead spending years and fortunes to make factories to specifically make each viral protein, we can just have your body do what it already does it make the protein itself. Your body then gets an immune response to the protein the exact same way it would with a traditional vaccine. The mRNA is broken down within hours and does not cause any immune response by itself.
It really is the same idea as prior vaccinations, just much easier. Proteins are the hardest things to manufacture. DNA and RNA are easy
All the same, I prefer (for me) to let the virus do that.
ramblin_ag02 said:Catag94 said:ramblin_ag02 said:
The problem with natural immunity is that you have to get infected and risk a potentially serious and fatal infection. Encouraging natural immunity is the same thing as doing absolutely nothing until people get sick, sometimes really sick. That's unconscionable when we have cheap, safe, and effective prevention
So we published hugest numbers of cases of infection and learned as a result that overall the survival rate is 99+%. We also have over 15 studies that indicate natural immunity is far superior. We also are steadily documenting case of infection in previously "vaxxed" patients daily ( and confirmed re-infections have been extremely rare). So, I think the risks are substantially lower than your argument would attempt to suggest. I think it's a bit early to confirm the safety of these "vaccines" and some would argue you're wrong in indicating the injection is "Safe". Further, its effectiveness is becoming more abs more doubtful daily.
I wasn't making an argument. Natural infection prevents zero deaths. Every person with natural immunity already caught covid and didn't die. None of the people that died of their COVID infection have natural immunity.
Catag94 said:ramblin_ag02 said:
The problem with natural immunity is that you have to get infected and risk a potentially serious and fatal infection. Encouraging natural immunity is the same thing as doing absolutely nothing until people get sick, sometimes really sick. That's unconscionable when we have cheap, safe, and effective prevention
So we published hugest numbers of cases of infection and learned as a result that overall the survival rate is 99+%. We also have over 15 studies that indicate natural immunity is far superior. We also are steadily documenting case of infection in previously "vaxxed" patients daily ( and confirmed re-infections have been extremely rare). So, I think the risks are substantially lower than your argument would attempt to suggest. I think it's a bit early to confirm the safety of these "vaccines" and some would argue you're wrong in indicating the injection is "Safe". Further, its effectiveness is becoming more abs more doubtful daily.
