I've been really happy that no one in authority told me to go marry a wh***.k2aggie07 said:
You should read Hosea sometime.
God made the country, and man made the town. William Cowper
I've been really happy that no one in authority told me to go marry a wh***.k2aggie07 said:
You should read Hosea sometime.
Ezekiel told to lay on his side for 390 days and then the other side for 40 days, but I don't think anyone sees that as instructive. Prophets were sometimes living metaphors for God's relationship to His people, sometimes in very unpleasant ways. In this case Ezekiel was a literal metaphor for God suffering and enduring the bad behavior of Judah and Israel. Hosea was a metaphor for God choosing Israel knowing they would be unfaithful but continuing to try and restore that relationship.k2aggie07 said:
I understand it as .. marry a woman who will be unfaithful, and when she leaves you, go get her back. Powerful stuff.
I agree with you under the New Covenant, but I don't think that always tracks in the Old. Just look at Numbers 35. It specifically talks about murder and manslaughter, but the point is made clearly that murderers can't be spared under any circumstances, and people who commit manslaughter must stay in a place of refuge for the rest of their lives no matter what.Quote:
The standard of the Lord is always - if you repent and turn, sins are forgiven. Always. If you don't, justice is measured out to the threes and fours, or as many times as necessary.
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Even at the most difficult of times, we never once considered (realistically) ending the relationship. The harder option is definitely staying together, and definitely isn't for everyone.
WaltonAg18 said:
I met my wife with a "howdy" while I was sitting at the tables that used to be outside of Walton. We started dating a few weeks after that, and not shortly thereafter I informed my best friend that I was in a special type of trouble. We got engaged our sophomore year, I was confirmed at St. Mary's our junior year, and we married at the beginning of our last semester.
I agree that marriage has been hard work. There have been lots of shouting, hours and hours of very painful conversations acknowledging our own faults and weaknesses that we inherited from our parents. We attended couples counseling while we were engaged and that managed to tear down a significant number of roadblocks once the pride got out of the way. Even at the most difficult of times, we never once considered (realistically) ending the relationship. The harder option is definitely staying together, and definitely isn't for everyone.
k2aggie07 said:
And yet, David.
Nothing changed under the old and new covenant. Forgiveness was always there. God is who He is.
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That's good but the issue is that years into a marriage many people do realistically think about ending it. Your story is very typical and your relationship is very new. Doesn't mean you will have issues but only time will tell.
Amen to that. People change over time. You won't be the same person in 10 years and neither will your spouse. Bodies change, jobs change, lifestyles change, politics change, locations change, interests change and on and on. When I was first married I always thought renewing vows was dumb. After all, you already committed to that person for your entire life. Now I think I would consider it essential. It's important after 5 or 10 years to have each person reiterate their commitment even after all the changes in the couple, their life, and the world in general.Larry Lajitas said:
Oh I agree with both of you. I'm just saying the reality of the situation is beyond us and goes back very far. Modernity and the philosophies that accompany that are ruining marriages. I was just divorced after about 10 years and I can tell your first hand that if your spouses worldview changes then you are screwed. Some people never go through that and that's a blessing. I would say the key factor is a strong relationship with Christ and a full understanding of what exactly marriage is.