February 23rd Creation movie

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In reply to AggieRain • 7:35p, 2/27/17
How can someone believe they are a Christian if they don't believe the Bible?
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In reply to vacating FL410 • 7:43p, 2/27/17
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aggiesuite said:
How can someone believe they are a Christian if they don't believe the Bible?


Pretty much every believer has something they have decided not to take literally in the bible. There's an explanation for everything that someone might find unpalatable.
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7:54p, 2/27/17
If someone doesn't believe the very first book of God's word it is a serious matter. I don't think God was out to write some interesting tales for bedtime stories. Some serious reflection needs to be done.
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In reply to vacating FL410 • 9:20p, 2/27/17
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Believing that something is allegorical as opposed to literal is not the same thing as "not believing."
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In reply to AggieRain • 9:45p, 2/27/17
AggieRain said:
Believing that something is allegorical as opposed to literal is not the same thing as "not believing."
Interesting concept to believe oneself to be a Christian yet not believe the Bible. May not have a happy ending.
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In reply to schmendeler • 9:48p, 2/27/17
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aggiesuite said:
How can someone believe they are a Christian if they don't believe the Bible?


Pretty much every believer has something they have decided not to take literally in the bible. There's an explanation for everything that someone might find unpalatable.
Not me.
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In reply to Martin Q. Blank • 10:10p, 2/27/17
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Martin Q. Blank said:
schmendeler said:
aggiesuite said:
How can someone believe they are a Christian if they don't believe the Bible?


Pretty much every believer has something they have decided not to take literally in the bible. There's an explanation for everything that someone might find unpalatable.
Not me.


You dine on the literal flesh and blood of Christ in communion? I didn't think you were Catholic.
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In reply to vacating FL410 • 10:43p, 2/27/17
aggiesuite said:
AggieRain said:
Believing that something is allegorical as opposed to literal is not the same thing as "not believing."
Interesting concept to believe oneself to be a Christian yet not believe the Bible. May not have a happy ending.


You might want to read up on the concept of allegory. History as we understand and write it was not the norm until very recently. Allegory had a great deal of power. And it means you don't have to deny the reality in front of you.
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In reply to Martin Q. Blank • 10:44p, 2/27/17
Martin Q. Blank said:
schmendeler said:
aggiesuite said:
How can someone believe they are a Christian if they don't believe the Bible?


Pretty much every believer has something they have decided not to take literally in the bible. There's an explanation for everything that someone might find unpalatable.
Not me.


So were there two of every kind on the ark or seven of every clean kind and two of every unclean kind? No one has ever answered that around here.
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1:37a, 2/28/17
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I think it's pretty badass that god stopped the rotation of the earth to allow a slaughter to continue. That time when he had a bear kill a bunch of kids for making fun of a bald guy--also very metal of him...
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In reply to vacating FL410 • 5:57a, 2/28/17
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aggiesuite said:
AggieRain said:
Believing that something is allegorical as opposed to literal is not the same thing as "not believing."
Interesting concept to believe oneself to be a Christian yet not believe the Bible. May not have a happy ending.

So it's your position that if you don't believe in a 6,000 year earth, then one is not a Christian?
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In reply to PacifistAg • 6:25a, 2/28/17
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RetiredAg said:
aggiesuite said:
AggieRain said:
Believing that something is allegorical as opposed to literal is not the same thing as "not believing."
Interesting concept to believe oneself to be a Christian yet not believe the Bible. May not have a happy ending.
So it's your position that if you don't believe in a 6,000 year earth, then one is not a Christian?
So, like, Jesus is really a vine and stuff... literally.
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In reply to PacifistAg • 7:28a, 2/28/17
RetiredAg said:
aggiesuite said:
AggieRain said:
Believing that something is allegorical as opposed to literal is not the same thing as "not believing."
Interesting concept to believe oneself to be a Christian yet not believe the Bible. May not have a happy ending.

So it's your position that if you don't believe in a 6,000 year earth, then one is not a Christian?
Do you/they believe Matthew? Mark? Luke? John? If you do, why? Which books are real? Which ones are made up?
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In reply to 747Ag • 7:33a, 2/28/17
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747Ag said:
RetiredAg said:
aggiesuite said:
AggieRain said:
Believing that something is allegorical as opposed to literal is not the same thing as "not believing."
Interesting concept to believe oneself to be a Christian yet not believe the Bible. May not have a happy ending.
So it's your position that if you don't believe in a 6,000 year earth, then one is not a Christian?
So, like, Jesus is really a vine and stuff... literally.

And everyone knows that Satan is literally a giant red dragon with 7 heads and 10 horns.
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In reply to vacating FL410 • 7:35a, 2/28/17
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aggiesuite said:
RetiredAg said:
aggiesuite said:
AggieRain said:
Believing that something is allegorical as opposed to literal is not the same thing as "not believing."
Interesting concept to believe oneself to be a Christian yet not believe the Bible. May not have a happy ending.

So it's your position that if you don't believe in a 6,000 year earth, then one is not a Christian?
Do you/they believe Matthew? Mark? Luke? John? If you do, why? Which books are real? Which ones are made up?

You didn't answer my question. Is believing in a literal six 24-hr days creation 6,000 years ago a requirement in your opinion for salvation? You seem to have a hard time believing that a Christian could not embrace YEC, so I'm curious if that is what your actual position is.
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In reply to PacifistAg • 7:36a, 2/28/17
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RetiredAg said:
747Ag said:
RetiredAg said:
aggiesuite said:
AggieRain said:
Believing that something is allegorical as opposed to literal is not the same thing as "not believing."
Interesting concept to believe oneself to be a Christian yet not believe the Bible. May not have a happy ending.
So it's your position that if you don't believe in a 6,000 year earth, then one is not a Christian?
So, like, Jesus is really a vine and stuff... literally.
And everyone knows that Satan is literally a giant red dragon with 7 heads and 10 horns.
Are you sure he isn't one of the members of GWAR?
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In reply to schmendeler • 7:39a, 2/28/17
schmendeler said:
Martin Q. Blank said:
schmendeler said:
aggiesuite said:
How can someone believe they are a Christian if they don't believe the Bible?


Pretty much every believer has something they have decided not to take literally in the bible. There's an explanation for everything that someone might find unpalatable.
Not me.
You dine on the literal flesh and blood of Christ in communion? I didn't think you were Catholic.
I dine on the literal flesh and blood of Christ in communion. I don't need to make up something like transfiguration to believe that. Or the "resacrifice" of Christ or whatever they do at Mass.
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In reply to amercer • 7:40a, 2/28/17
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I think it's pretty badass that god stopped the rotation of the earth to allow a slaughter to continue. That time when he had a bear kill a bunch of kids for making fun of a bald guy--also very metal of him...
The sun stopped, not the rotation of the earth. Had that happened, by my calculations everybody would have shot up into the sky.
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747Ag said:
RetiredAg said:
747Ag said:
RetiredAg said:
aggiesuite said:
AggieRain said:
Believing that something is allegorical as opposed to literal is not the same thing as "not believing."
Interesting concept to believe oneself to be a Christian yet not believe the Bible. May not have a happy ending.
So it's your position that if you don't believe in a 6,000 year earth, then one is not a Christian?
So, like, Jesus is really a vine and stuff... literally.
And everyone knows that Satan is literally a giant red dragon with 7 heads and 10 horns.
Are you sure he isn't one of the members of GWAR?

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In reply to Martin Q. Blank • 8:01a, 2/28/17
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schmendeler said:
Martin Q. Blank said:
schmendeler said:
aggiesuite said:
How can someone believe they are a Christian if they don't believe the Bible?


Pretty much every believer has something they have decided not to take literally in the bible. There's an explanation for everything that someone might find unpalatable.
Not me.
You dine on the literal flesh and blood of Christ in communion? I didn't think you were Catholic.
I dine on the literal flesh and blood of Christ in communion. I don't need to make up something like transfiguration to believe that. Or the "resacrifice" of Christ or whatever they do at Mass.
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In reply to Martin Q. Blank • 8:18a, 2/28/17
Martin Q. Blank said:
amercer said:
I think it's pretty badass that god stopped the rotation of the earth to allow a slaughter to continue. That time when he had a bear kill a bunch of kids for making fun of a bald guy--also very metal of him...
The sun stopped, not the rotation of the earth. Had that happened, by my calculations everybody would have shot up into the sky.


Are you a geocentrist?
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jkag89 said:
Martin Q. Blank said:
schmendeler said:
Martin Q. Blank said:
schmendeler said:
aggiesuite said:
How can someone believe they are a Christian if they don't believe the Bible?


Pretty much every believer has something they have decided not to take literally in the bible. There's an explanation for everything that someone might find unpalatable.
Not me.
You dine on the literal flesh and blood of Christ in communion? I didn't think you were Catholic.
I dine on the literal flesh and blood of Christ in communion. I don't need to make up something like transfiguration to believe that. Or the "resacrifice" of Christ or whatever they do at Mass.
"What sort of man doesn't carry a trowel? Put it on your Christmas list." Brian Williams was great.
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In reply to Sapper Redux • 8:22a, 2/28/17
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Dr. Watson said:
Martin Q. Blank said:
amercer said:
I think it's pretty badass that god stopped the rotation of the earth to allow a slaughter to continue. That time when he had a bear kill a bunch of kids for making fun of a bald guy--also very metal of him...
The sun stopped, not the rotation of the earth. Had that happened, by my calculations everybody would have shot up into the sky.


Are you a geocentrist?

It's a perfectly valid model of the motions of the planets...
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In reply to Sapper Redux • 8:23a, 2/28/17
Dr. Watson said:
Martin Q. Blank said:
amercer said:
I think it's pretty badass that god stopped the rotation of the earth to allow a slaughter to continue. That time when he had a bear kill a bunch of kids for making fun of a bald guy--also very metal of him...
The sun stopped, not the rotation of the earth. Had that happened, by my calculations everybody would have shot up into the sky.
Are you a geocentrist?
Yes, we've had several threads on it.
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In reply to Martin Q. Blank • 8:26a, 2/28/17
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Martin Q. Blank said:
Dr. Watson said:
Martin Q. Blank said:
amercer said:
I think it's pretty badass that god stopped the rotation of the earth to allow a slaughter to continue. That time when he had a bear kill a bunch of kids for making fun of a bald guy--also very metal of him...
The sun stopped, not the rotation of the earth. Had that happened, by my calculations everybody would have shot up into the sky.
Are you a geocentrist?
Yes, we've had several threads on it.

Oh come on... tell me you're trolling.
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In reply to Woody2006 • 8:29a, 2/28/17
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Woody2006 said:
Martin Q. Blank said:
Dr. Watson said:
Martin Q. Blank said:
amercer said:
I think it's pretty badass that god stopped the rotation of the earth to allow a slaughter to continue. That time when he had a bear kill a bunch of kids for making fun of a bald guy--also very metal of him...
The sun stopped, not the rotation of the earth. Had that happened, by my calculations everybody would have shot up into the sky.
Are you a geocentrist?
Yes, we've had several threads on it.

Oh come on... tell me you're trolling.
i don't think even he knows anymore.
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In reply to Woody2006 • 8:29a, 2/28/17
My office faces east and I just saw the sun rise. Maybe I shouldn't trust my senses (or the Bible) and picture the earth rotating?
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In reply to Martin Q. Blank • 8:32a, 2/28/17
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Martin Q. Blank said:
My office faces east and I just saw the sun rise. Maybe I shouldn't trust my senses (or the Bible) and picture the earth rotating?

You don't believe the Earth rotates?
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In reply to Woody2006 • 8:35a, 2/28/17
If it did rotate and then all of a sudden stopped, the entire army of both sides would have flung up in the air, right?
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8:36a, 2/28/17
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In reply to Martin Q. Blank • 8:37a, 2/28/17
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Martin Q. Blank said:
If it did rotate and then all of a sudden stopped, the entire army of both sides would have flung up in the air, right?
So God can make the sun stop, but He can't make the earth stop rotating and keep everyone one it?

BTW, geocentrism...really? You love this trolling stuff, don't you?
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Martin Q. Blank said:
If it did rotate and then all of a sudden stopped, the entire army of both sides would have flung up in the air, right?
it's hilarious that you are using newton's laws to support the idea that the earth doesn't rotate because it would have made Joshua's army fly off the surface
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Martin Q. Blank said:
If it did rotate and then all of a sudden stopped, the entire army of both sides would have flung up in the air, right?

Not bad. Pretty legit troll job.
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