Do you believe in the Great Flood story?

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Harold Egbert Camping (July 19, 1921 December 15, 2013) was an American Christian radio broadcaster, author and evangelist.[1] Beginning in 1958, he served as president of Family Radio, a California-based radio station group that broadcasts to more than 150 markets in the United States. In October 2011, he retired from active broadcasting following a stroke, but still maintained a role at Family Radio until his death.[2] Camping is notable for issuing multiple failed predictions of dates for the End Times, which temporarily gained him a global following and millions of dollars of donations.

Born July 19, 1921
Boulder, Colorado, U.S.
Died December 15, 2013 (aged 92)
Alameda, California, U.S.
Education BS, civil engineering (1942)
Alma mater University of California, Berkeley


I'm starting to wonder about them CE's!
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Is that some sort of new Bible Code?
Nope, ancient Chinese secret! Wait, that's Calgon. Never mind, it is a new bible code.
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https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/could-the-lhc-make-an-earth-killing-black-hole-886d9e600c28

In case any of you were worried about Winag's nonsense. I still refuse to rule out the possibility he is a really great troll.
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for the "engineer"

http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/






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https://medium.com/starts-with-a-bang/could-the-lhc-make-an-earth-killing-black-hole-886d9e600c28

In case any of you were worried about Winag's nonsense. I still refuse to rule out the possibility he is a really great troll.
The answer is in the signs, Woody.
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for the "engineer"

http://home.hiwaay.net/~jalison/

I find your lack of intelligence astonishing. Everything you posted is disproven. Your don't even have the curiosity to challenge your own views. Floods don't move plate tectonics (I'm still waiting for a mechanism for how this happened). You claimed giza was at the geographic center and the longest lines in each direction. This was disproven and you offered nothing. The pyramids were only built a few thousand years ago and the plates have moved less than you could throw a football since then. Other structures contain stones just as big. No evidence of giants existing ever. At this point I truly doubt you could articulate the scientific method or are even aware of how the theories behind your engineering were found (assuming you do anything more than drainage calcs which I doubt).

You seriously just linked to some random idiot talking about atlantis and great circles. I'm still waiting for you to admit that a basic wiki search disproved your claims about giza's location and how you were stupid enough to believe that people who didn't know about the americas or antarctica intended to calculate the geographic center of the earth.
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He was referred by Scott Onstott, your brain more analogical than his?


Rather than point at distractions and laugh at things you don't understand, prove the man's math wrong.

So far, you have claimed the Bible is wrong and nothing special about the Great pyramid.

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I spent part of yesterday checking out a Triassic shale site near Princeton. I couldn't quite make out the flood markings, but they may have been covered by giant tracks.
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No digging today. There's a K-T boundary site somewhere in the area with ammonite fossils that I'm trying to locate. No luck yesterday, but at least I got out of the office for a brief spell.
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SapperAg
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A major goal in my life, too. My brother is moving to Billings, MT soon. He's going to see a lot of me.
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He was referred by Scott Onstott, your brain more analogical than his?
I see nothing at all impressive about this man's mind or accomplishments to make me think otherwise. He appears to be a crackpot who's actual job is to teach kids Autocad. My own drafters are probably better at Autocad and aren't formally educated. He claims to be inspired the da vinci code for crying out loud. Like brown pretends to, he thinks the templar far more special than it is.

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Wow. you took that seriously. It's some moron drawing shapes that have nothing to do with the original building layout plans and very loosely trying to make things fit. Rather than debunk a three hour video why don't you pick one part you find most compelling and I will debunk that.

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Rather than point at distractions and laugh at things you don't understand, prove the man's math wrong.
I understand all of this better than you. And I've already proven your math wrong on three different counts. And you refuse to acknowledge or address that. Giza is not at the longest latitude, longitude, or center of gravity of the continents. This was debunked in a 30s google search since I'm not a credulous moron. So I'll bother with any one point of your idiot CAD designers video after you address my criticisms of your failed claims about the location of giza.

I'm also waiting for you to acknowledge you have no idea how plate tectonics work, how fast continents move, or how floods have no effect on the movement of the plates. For crying out loud oceans don't even move the plates.

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So far, you have claimed the Bible is wrong
The bible is proven wrong (as you interpret it) by many separate fields of science. I can prove the earth isn't 6k years old by every single dating method we have and we can demonstrate there is zero evidence for your supposed great flood. And I can't believe I'm having to type this but yes, there is zero evidence for giants either. Don't you find it strange there isn't an accredited university in the first world that supports this view?

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and nothing special about the Great pyramid.
There are lots of things special about the Great pyramid. You just haven't listed one of those things yet. Giza isn't at the center of gravity of the continents or at either of the longest lines. While the stones are enormous and must have been moved through great ingenuity, similar sized stones (but not structures) were moved a various places all over the globe, non of which required the hilarious belief in giants.
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I'm pretty sure both Stonehenge and the Easter Island statues were built and erected by Egyptian giants too.
Aggrad08
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Those giant easter island heads have bodies. Must have been some huge giants....

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_centre_of_Earth


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In 2003, a revised calculation using the higher resolution ETOPO2[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_centre_of_Earth#cite_note-7][7][/url] global digital elevation model (DEM) with data points every 2' (3.7 km near equator) led to a more precise result of 4052N 3434E (180 km northeast of Ankara) and thereby validated Woods' calculation.[url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geographical_centre_of_Earth#cite_note-8][8][/url]



Only a mercator projection, which falsely represents land closer to the poles as geographically larger than it actually is, would give Egypt as the geographical center. But I am just repeating what Aggrad previously posted.
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I really don't totally understand what is even being argued in this thread but it has been entertaining as heck all the same. One thing that is obvious though is that a civil engineering degree from TAMU is no guarantee that a person possesses basic critical thinking skills or a basic grasp of the fundamentals of earth science.
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Granted, some theories posted above are a little outside the norm but the geometric principles are spot on, your 8th grade calculations are laughable.

Time to move on, you failed this thread. I have another thread that needs my attention.

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Godspeed, Captain Science! Godspeed!
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7thGenTexan
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Granted, some theories posted above are a little outside the norm but the geometric principles are spot on, your 8th grade calculations are laughable.

Time to move on, you failed this thread. I have another thread that needs my attention.


The anticipation is killing me. Cheers for the first interesting thread in months
Stive
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Which thread would that be? PLEASE tell us!!! I'd love to see you weigh in on something else.
Aggrad08
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Granted, some theories posted above are a little outside the norm

crackpot disproven bull**** you mean.


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but the geometric principles are spot on,

I already disproved them. Your brain doesn't work so you refuse to acknowledge the wiki article clearly pointing out everything you believe is demonstrably false. Your cognitive dissonance is impressive.

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your 8th grade calculations are laughable.
Which ones are those. The clear and obvious facts in a 30s google search disproving you? I question if you are even capable of basic math if you think floods move plate tectonics. So what do you believe the wiki article is, a conspiracy against you?

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Time to move on, you failed this thread. I have another thread that needs my attention.


Thanks for the most entertaining stupidity on this board since ag believer thought all birds were the same species.
Amazing Moves
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WinaGs proves how debilitating religion can be to the brain.
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WinaGs proves how debilitating a troll can be to the brain.
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I am in no way religious, I didn't read the rest of the thread to see if someone else had mentioned this...

But during the last ice age, the strait of Gibraltar was blocked up. It uncorked at the end of the ice age and flooded land in and around the Bosphorus...there is not only archeological evidence to support it, but hydrological evidence as well.
There is debate on its severity however.
SapperAg
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There is substantial evidence for major flooding at the end of the last glacial maximum. That can explain why there are flood myths. But those floods are nothing like the nature and scale of the flood in Genesis. Not to mention well beyond the skill of humans at that time to construct an arc.
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There is substantial evidence for major flooding at the end of the last glacial maximum. That can explain why there are flood myths. But those floods are nothing like the nature and scale of the flood in Genesis. Not to mention well beyond the skill of humans at that time to construct an arc.

I agree, only making the point that like many things in the bible and other old documents, apocryphal stories often have at least a small basis in a real event.
 
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