Supergirl

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

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Always go see a movie yourself to decide what you think about it.

This.


No. Read reviews from sources you trust. When you buy your ticket to go find out if it is trash or not, you're saying to Hollywood "make more movies like this please". That's all they care about. Obviously it doesn't matter on the individual level, but collectively it does. Slop needs to die on the vine and teach entertainment executives lessons. It needs to give them the data they need to ignore advice from certain parties and stop hiring certain kinds of people. This has already started to happen on a significant level in the gaming world.
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This. Exactly.

But others will mock this viewpoint because they ultimately like the slop and politics.

I have the reviewers whose opinions ive learned to trust and will use them as a barometer on whether I want to support a given movie. I choose to exercise capitalism and vote with my wallet.
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Clay Travis just another culture vulture chasing profits off algorithms.
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It's fascinating that some of the same posters refusing to see this movie because of their perception of the actress's politics are on another thread criticizing those who canceled their Nate Bargatze tickets because of his.

I hadn't heard any of the actress's comments before seeing the movie and I thought she did a great job in the movie. She's good in house of dragons too.
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Joan Wilder said:

It's fascinating that some of the same posters refusing to see this movie because of their perception of the actress's politics are on another thread criticizing those who canceled their Nate Bargatze tickets because of his.

I hadn't heard any of the actress's comments before seeing the movie and I thought she did a great job in the movie. She's good in house of dragons too.

It's exactly the same thing. But if we're being told that we condone stuff by not speaking up on here, then yes, everybody should go 100% political and spout their viewpoints.
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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Where the heck did all the criticisms of this movie come from? What I just saw was not worthy of such crap as has been polluting movie threads prior to release now for a while. That is not to say that Supergirl was a masterpiece on the level of, say, Iron Man or Superman: the Movie. In a word, it was fine.

I didn't think I would like Kara based on the trailers, but she actually had an arc, finishing as a different person than she was at the start. I also liked the flashbacks of her back story. Lobo was great, a seriously fun yet psychotic character that I was not previously familiar with. The vengeful girl was a good character as well. The primary villain isn't going to make anyone think of Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor or either iteration of General Zod, but he served the story pretty well.

The movie stagnated a bit when Supergirl goes to a planet with twin suns, one a green one that impacted her like Kryptonite. It felt like she was out of action for too much time in a movie that runs less than 2 hours. But when the green sun went down and the yellow sun rose, her return to action was pretty cool.

I don't like the visual style in Gunn's DC universe.It worked for Guardins of the Galaxy, bit I don't believe it works for these characters. And the music either sucked or was not memorable. My opinion, these movies need a big score like the original Superman or The Avengers movies had.

Is this a movie I will see again in a theater? Nope. I will watch it on streaming though. It was not at all a bad movie, and I do find myself curious about what was cut out. 7/10

I agree


I am going to heavily caveat that I think I am going to always have a level of leeway with Gunn's DCU, especially anything Superman related due to getting to hold my Dad's hand during the Pa Kent scene 4 days before he died.

I teared up seeing the DC Movies logo and when Corenswet showed up I got pretty emotional

But I had a lot of fun. I do think the needle drops absolutely sucked but I really like Milly Alcock as Kara, she had a great arc throughout the film. I actually liked the villain even if he isn't some massive space threat. He was just a marauder stealing young girls to for child sex slavery. I think we can all agree regardless of political spectrum that something like that is pure evil and deserves to get ****ed by a porcupine. Beyond that it wasn't some WOKE film, it still explores the views of Superman regarding hope, but through looking at the opposite side of it through Kara's grief. I too also loved the flashbacks and it does reveal a question from the 1st film.

And it was dark, and incredibly violent. Do not take your young daughters to this.

And look I get it, seeing a tiny woman destroying a much larger man can be eyerolling, but she is a Kryptonian. When she is at her strongest, these ****ers didn't stand a chance.
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Complete Idiot said:

Clay Travis just another culture vulture chasing profits off algorithms.

yes, he's no different than Joy Reid, Rachel Maddow, or any of the left's blowhards. is he wrong though? I don't know the economies of the movie but I doubt he's going out on a limb there.
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Joan Wilder said:

It's fascinating that some of the same posters refusing to see this movie because of their perception of the actress's politics are on another thread criticizing those who canceled their Nate Bargatze tickets because of his.

I hadn't heard any of the actress's comments before seeing the movie and I thought she did a great job in the movie. She's good in house of dragons too.


To be totally honest, even if that dumb chick hadn't said some annoying stuff, I probably wasn't seeing this unless a friend made me go. It just looked like ass from the get go. I'm not a massive fan of comic book movies to begin with, but will see one of it looks special, but this just looked like the other 30 movies Marvel and DC have been crapping out for the last decade.

Them at least picking a hot lead could have helped me overlook the awful greenscreen slop.

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FL_Ag1998 said:

TyHolden said:

I'm sure this hasn't been done yet....sydney thing




I've perused Outkick for over a decade now (it's gone way downhill by the way) and Clay's take is as clueless and dumb as his website has become. The comments by the actress have about 5% to do with this movie tanking. It's been spelled out plenty on this board already the low demand for a Supergirl movie. The trailers only further diminished interest in it, and once the access critic reviews started nailing it the movie's fate was sealed. While the actress's comments stirred up plenty of rage amongst online media who secretly love that stuff because it generates clicks on their articles and posts, it really had very little to do with this thing bombing.

But hey, that follow up post has a point....Sydney Sweeney starring as a more likeable, wholesome Supergirl with some tongue-in-cheek sexual innuendo would at least double the net profit this current version is going to make.
I haven't seen the movie, probably won't see the movie in theater, and don't base my viewing habits on politics.

That said, this is a business like any other. I don't care if it's 5% or 0.05%, if the star isn't doing everything to MAXIMIZE revenue, they are acting against business interests and should be treated as such. In the corporate world, we see real, actual repercussions for as much.
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Yeah, especially with a young white woman lead. If I was the studio, I'd go ahead and assume her political leaning and get out in front of it/her and and have a sit down before the press junkets.
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TyHolden said:

Complete Idiot said:

Clay Travis just another culture vulture chasing profits off algorithms.

yes, he's no different than Joy Reid, Rachel Maddow, or any of the left's blowhards. is he wrong though? I don't know the economies of the movie but I doubt he's going out on a limb there.

I don't know if he's wrong, it's more of a prediction that factual statement. I don't know how it can lose several hundred million , I take that to mean $250 million or more in losses and that would be pretty crazy, but I also be way behind on what big budget movies cost to make these days. We can't see if he's wrong until worldwide box office is complete.
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Complete Idiot said:

TyHolden said:

Complete Idiot said:

Clay Travis just another culture vulture chasing profits off algorithms.

yes, he's no different than Joy Reid, Rachel Maddow, or any of the left's blowhards. is he wrong though? I don't know the economies of the movie but I doubt he's going out on a limb there.

I don't know if he's wrong, it's more of a prediction that factual statement. I don't know how it can lose several hundred million , I take that to mean $250 million or more in losses and that would be pretty crazy, but I also be way behind on what big budget movies cost to make these days. We can't see if he's wrong until worldwide box office is complete.


I've heard from $170-180 million just for production costs, after tax credits. That excludes marketing. Then remember the studio splits the profits with the theaters, I believe roughly 50/50. If it only makes $40 million domestic and only $70-80 mil international this weekend, and then falls off significantly in the coming weeks (as its expected to), then it could lose quite a bit.
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Dang y'all. Just go see a movie and enjoy it or not and quit overthinking ALL of this. It's not that complicated.
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Agreed. Saw the movie today. I was entertained. Great arc for Supergirl's origin. It's dark and violent at times but also has some funny moments. Milly is legit as Kara-El and Supergirl.
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Gomer95 said:

Dang y'all. Just go see a movie and enjoy it or not and quit overthinking ALL of this. It's not that complicated.


Just consume product and get excited for next product, guys!
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Gomer95 said:

Dang y'all. Just go see a movie and enjoy it or not and quit overthinking ALL of this. It's not that complicated.


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Joan Wilder said:

It's fascinating that some of the same posters refusing to see this movie because of their perception of the actress's politics are on another thread criticizing those who canceled their Nate Bargatze tickets because of his.

I hadn't heard any of the actress's comments before seeing the movie and I thought she did a great job in the movie. She's good in house of dragons too.

That is not the same thing.

Nate Bargatze didn't make comments about anyone or any group. He just had the unbelievable audacity to go to something that he wanted to watch. Since it was the UFC fight at the White House and everything associated with Trump is pure evil, people thought he should be canceled.
He's still selling out shows.

Alcock was talking about people giving her negative reviews and made the "Christian dads" comment as if it were a negative to be one. She was insulting towards a group of people that will generally take a day off of work in the summer to take their daughters and their friends to girl shows. It wasn't a smart move.
It's affected the box office.

The other big difference is that the people that got mad about Bargatze were actively trying to cancel him.
Most fathers that I know that are Christians just shrug their shoulders and have the "OK, I'll just spend my money somewhere else" attitude and go on about their lives when a celebrity makes comments about them .
That and they laugh at how celebrities that live in their bubble think that their attitude is indicative of the rest of the world.
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Geriatric Punk said:

Well this thread sucks.
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LOL well yeah because if everybody would do that then most everybody's lives would be way less stressful. Funny reply and that's NOT complicated to see haha.
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Yeah I was just messing with you, thought it was funny. A lot of times on this board the thread is more entertaining than the movie itself.
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Lol true that.
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Lower opening than Morbius is absolutely wild.

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Break even is $300-$400 million. Not gonna get close imo.
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Gunn is really going to need Lanterns to land in the zeitgeist and that Man of Tomorrow goes on a rip.
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Logos Stick said:

Break even is $300-$400 million. Not gonna get close imo.
dude not even close. The reported production budget before marketing is approximately 170 million.

So let's lowball the marketing budget and say it's 100 million…that's 270 million total cost but let's be nice and round down to an even 250 million total cost with production + marketing….

After movie theaters get their cut and taxes that's approximately 500 million this sucker needs worldwide to break even….

Granted it'll be lucky to hit 200 million worldwide with this opening but it's gonna be a much bigger loss for DC than a return of 300-400 million would've needed….

Why they made their second film in a new universe on this character I'll never get….
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I think these types of movies might be dead now. Think about how incompetent and inexperienced (and clueless about the world in general) the avg Gen Z girl is. How unaware of their surroundings they are. I am not talking trash just relaying honest observation. They care far more about manufactured drama on network tv or social media than they do about important world events. Most of them haven't the slightest idea how to cook or maintain a household and are basically hollow shells of their mothers. I don't blame them completely, it's how they were raised.

Maybe it's just too much of a detachment from reality to have young female leads in these types of movies at this point? Wondering if they should pivot to satirical comedies about female superhero's that just stumble their way to success and capture bad guys by dumb luck? I could probably pay to see a female superhero comedy, if it was done right and was legitimately funny.
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Joan Wilder said:

It's fascinating that some of the same posters refusing to see this movie because of their perception of the actress's politics are on another thread criticizing those who canceled their Nate Bargatze tickets because of his.

I hadn't heard any of the actress's comments before seeing the movie and I thought she did a great job in the movie. She's good in house of dragons too.

You might want to read that Bargatze thread again.

They aren't criticizing people that canceled their tickets. They are making fun of them because he's selling out his shows and they are making the tickets available.

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Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Where the heck did all the criticisms of this movie come from? What I just saw was not worthy of such crap as has been polluting movie threads prior to release now for a while. That is not to say that Supergirl was a masterpiece on the level of, say, Iron Man or Superman: the Movie. In a word, it was fine.

I didn't think I would like Kara based on the trailers, but she actually had an arc, finishing as a different person than she was at the start. I also liked the flashbacks of her back story. Lobo was great, a seriously fun yet psychotic character that I was not previously familiar with. The vengeful girl was a good character as well. The primary villain isn't going to make anyone think of Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor or either iteration of General Zod, but he served the story pretty well.

The movie stagnated a bit when Supergirl goes to a planet with twin suns, one a green one that impacted her like Kryptonite. It felt like she was out of action for too much time in a movie that runs less than 2 hours. But when the green sun went down and the yellow sun rose, her return to action was pretty cool.

I don't like the visual style in Gunn's DC universe.It worked for Guardins of the Galaxy, bit I don't believe it works for these characters. And the music either sucked or was not memorable. My opinion, these movies need a big score like the original Superman or The Avengers movies had.

Is this a movie I will see again in a theater? Nope. I will watch it on streaming though. It was not at all a bad movie, and I do find myself curious about what was cut out. 7/10

Agree with everything you wrote. Thought the movie was good, not great. Worth seeing in theaters if you are into superhero stuff, but also probably fine to just see at home if you are busy.

I was going to say this was the first time the music in a Gunn film didn't land, but I realize he didn't actually make this film so that makes sense.

Everything else you wrote, nothing to add too on the movie.

I think people are letting themselves get turned off movies before they come out for weird reasons in the last few years. Not sure what is up with that trend, but it's odd.
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TyHolden said:

Complete Idiot said:

Clay Travis just another culture vulture chasing profits off algorithms.

yes, he's no different than Joy Reid, Rachel Maddow, or any of the left's blowhards. is he wrong though? I don't know the economies of the movie but I doubt he's going out on a limb there.

Why would you go to any of those morons for their opinions on a movie though?
I would say for their opinion on anything, but thats a different topic
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PatAg said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Where the heck did all the criticisms of this movie come from? What I just saw was not worthy of such crap as has been polluting movie threads prior to release now for a while. That is not to say that Supergirl was a masterpiece on the level of, say, Iron Man or Superman: the Movie. In a word, it was fine.

I didn't think I would like Kara based on the trailers, but she actually had an arc, finishing as a different person than she was at the start. I also liked the flashbacks of her back story. Lobo was great, a seriously fun yet psychotic character that I was not previously familiar with. The vengeful girl was a good character as well. The primary villain isn't going to make anyone think of Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor or either iteration of General Zod, but he served the story pretty well.

The movie stagnated a bit when Supergirl goes to a planet with twin suns, one a green one that impacted her like Kryptonite. It felt like she was out of action for too much time in a movie that runs less than 2 hours. But when the green sun went down and the yellow sun rose, her return to action was pretty cool.

I don't like the visual style in Gunn's DC universe.It worked for Guardins of the Galaxy, bit I don't believe it works for these characters. And the music either sucked or was not memorable. My opinion, these movies need a big score like the original Superman or The Avengers movies had.

Is this a movie I will see again in a theater? Nope. I will watch it on streaming though. It was not at all a bad movie, and I do find myself curious about what was cut out. 7/10

Agree with everything you wrote. Thought the movie was good, not great. Worth seeing in theaters if you are into superhero stuff, but also probably fine to just see at home if you are busy.

I was going to say this was the first time the music in a Gunn film didn't land, but I realize he didn't actually make this film so that makes sense.

Everything else you wrote, nothing to add too on the movie.

I think people are letting themselves get turned off movies before they come out for weird reasons in the last few years. Not sure what is up with that trend, but it's odd.
I keep reading this, so now I'm curious. What songs were in the movie?
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PatAg said:

TyHolden said:

Complete Idiot said:

Clay Travis just another culture vulture chasing profits off algorithms.

yes, he's no different than Joy Reid, Rachel Maddow, or any of the left's blowhards. is he wrong though? I don't know the economies of the movie but I doubt he's going out on a limb there.

Why would you go to any of those morons for their opinions on a movie though?
I would say for their opinion on anything, but thats a different topic

Travis didn't give an opinion on the movie. He's just talking economics. And yes, there are many reports that they will not break even without some kind of ticket surge after opening weekend (not likely).
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double aught said:

PatAg said:

Cinco Ranch Aggie said:

Where the heck did all the criticisms of this movie come from? What I just saw was not worthy of such crap as has been polluting movie threads prior to release now for a while. That is not to say that Supergirl was a masterpiece on the level of, say, Iron Man or Superman: the Movie. In a word, it was fine.

I didn't think I would like Kara based on the trailers, but she actually had an arc, finishing as a different person than she was at the start. I also liked the flashbacks of her back story. Lobo was great, a seriously fun yet psychotic character that I was not previously familiar with. The vengeful girl was a good character as well. The primary villain isn't going to make anyone think of Gene Hackman's Lex Luthor or either iteration of General Zod, but he served the story pretty well.

The movie stagnated a bit when Supergirl goes to a planet with twin suns, one a green one that impacted her like Kryptonite. It felt like she was out of action for too much time in a movie that runs less than 2 hours. But when the green sun went down and the yellow sun rose, her return to action was pretty cool.

I don't like the visual style in Gunn's DC universe.It worked for Guardins of the Galaxy, bit I don't believe it works for these characters. And the music either sucked or was not memorable. My opinion, these movies need a big score like the original Superman or The Avengers movies had.

Is this a movie I will see again in a theater? Nope. I will watch it on streaming though. It was not at all a bad movie, and I do find myself curious about what was cut out. 7/10

Agree with everything you wrote. Thought the movie was good, not great. Worth seeing in theaters if you are into superhero stuff, but also probably fine to just see at home if you are busy.

I was going to say this was the first time the music in a Gunn film didn't land, but I realize he didn't actually make this film so that makes sense.

Everything else you wrote, nothing to add too on the movie.

I think people are letting themselves get turned off movies before they come out for weird reasons in the last few years. Not sure what is up with that trend, but it's odd.

I keep reading this, so now I'm curious. What songs were in the movie?

probably the worst offender everyone is referencing was a weird cover of "The Middle" , the Jimmy Eat World song
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TyHolden said:

PatAg said:

TyHolden said:

Complete Idiot said:

Clay Travis just another culture vulture chasing profits off algorithms.

yes, he's no different than Joy Reid, Rachel Maddow, or any of the left's blowhards. is he wrong though? I don't know the economies of the movie but I doubt he's going out on a limb there.

Why would you go to any of those morons for their opinions on a movie though?
I would say for their opinion on anything, but thats a different topic

Travis didn't give an opinion on the movie. He's just talking economics. And yes, there are many reports that they will not break even without some kind of ticket surge after opening weekend (not likely).

So why would his opinion matter at all then, in regard to seeing the movie.
Surely you see the absurdity of this?

Other people have talked about critics they trust not liking something, and thats definitely a part of how I decide what to spend money on in theaters. Not all critics, but you find a few that tend to have similar opinions on previous movies as you and they are a good barometer.
 
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