Also, while I do not think Lupita is attractive and that she has Landon Donovan's hairline, I have always had a thing for Anne Hathaway. Although hopefully Nolan allowed her to keep her eyebrows, because Anne Hathaway with no eyebrows is kind of terrifying

Followers are irrelevant, as I already explained.

Regardless, Saturday at Universal City Walk wasn't an exclusive critic screening. It was more of an industry event thing that multiple filmmakers and film nerd influencer types attended, many of whom had a +1.

Critic screenings pick up again starting tomorrow.

I know how desperate some of you still are for this thing to suck/fail, but too many people across a wide spectrum and multiple countries have seen it now, and are all raving about about it - the number of positive reactions is literally in the hundreds at this point - and when reactions are THIS high in number, and THIS unanimously positive, I'm sorry but it almost always means we have a truly great movie on our hands.

Also, multiple people have now confirmed that the "woke" roles are minuscule, comparatively speaking. He's not at all the first to make that claim.

Ok, followers are relevant but even if we concede they are not, who the **** is Leland who likes video games and found X in 2025? My 60 year old neighbor who posts on X once a year has more followers. Why should we believe this isn't just some jackhole or bot posting whatever because there are ding-dongs out there that will run with it? This is a platform inundated with bots. They know people are searching for feedback on this movie and it's an easy way to get engagement

Exact same thing happened prior to Oppenheimer opening. As word of mouth spreads, regular theaters will start to fill.

Also, four weekends of IMAX are easily are going to help carry this thing, especially when a number of them are already sold out for two weeks straight, and things like this are happening…

The IMAX 70MM theater in Duluth, Georgia has a 3am showing of the Odyssey on Saturday and it’s mostly sold out. I once was a sicko for things like this and in LA or NY I get it but Duluth, wow: pic.twitter.com/Yci3QlTGSZ

— Conor Sen (@conorsen) July 13, 2026

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Ok, followers are relevant but even if we concede they are not, who the **** is Leland who likes video games and found X in 2025? My 60 year old neighbor who posts on X once a year has more followers. Why should we believe this isn't just some jackhole or bot posting whatever because there are ding-dongs out there that will run with it? This is a platform inundated with bots. They know people are searching for feedback on this movie and it's an easy way to get engagement

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He's not a bot, that much is clear. His reaction was also shared by the Christopher Nolan Archive account, which is highly professional and doing their due diligence to authenticate reactions. Not to mention, the guy indeed lives in LA and is responding to people in his comments. Is there a chance he could be lying/just looking for engagement? Sure. But there's enough smoke indicating he's telling the truth, and I wouldn't have posted his reaction willy nilly / otherwise.

Oh, well in that case…

Funny how you didn't lend this kind of scrutiny to the verifiably false / negative reactions posted earlier. Nope, you of course save your skepticism for, like, the two-hundredth positive reaction.

Many of those were joking, and regardless, they are not NEARLY (see, I can all caps too) the number you've spammed this thread with. You constantly inundate this board with postings from bots and halfwits when you clearly have no idea who they are.

This is one of the biggest movies of the year (if not the biggest), that's also turned into a ridiculous culture war lighting rod. To that end, the very first reactions were relevant to the discussion, and I posted 30-40 of them the minute they dropped, last Monday, damn near a week ago. Same as I do for EVERY major blockbuster two or three times per year. Also? They weren't bots, and I was familiar with a majority of them. Since then, over the past week, I've only posted maybe three or four more reactions that provided additional/relevant tidbits about the movie. In other words, I haven't "constantly" been "spamming" this thread with anything. Nor is it my problem that you have no ****ing clue what you're talking about, think they're "halfwits," or whatever other bull***** Your opinion in that regard is utterly irrelevant to me, and I'll post what I damn well please, within site guidelines. Just like you guys do, with your endless whining, mocking, and misinformation.

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Only a few more days left, and The Odyssey, even on premium large screens, barely has any tickets sold... In this example, similar show time, same movie theater, only 2 tickets sold on the big screen, and the IMAX is almost full.

Over 90% of the tickets sold went to 70mm native… pic.twitter.com/BGnvp5YWGB

— Emerald Apple (@AI_EmeraldApple) July 12, 2026

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I feel like Thursday night 10pm showings probably aren't the best gauge of audience interest.

The best theater near me looks to be about 2/3 sold for opening weekend outside the 9am showing for both standard and IMAX. But those are both just anecdotal and generally meaningless 5 days out.

Either way I don't think anyone has said they expect it to have an Avengers type opening weekend, just that it'll do well. And that can happen without selling out every opening weekend show.

At the theater I usually go to, all the Thursday, Friday and Saturday night showings are mostly sold out with only seats available in the first 2 or 3 rows.

Thursday (outside of the front rows) is sold out at my high end AMC.

This is gonna make a boatload.

(I'm talking Thurs 2PM, where I have tix. And it's like "shouldn't yall be at work?" As should I.)

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Just like you guys do, with your endless whining, mocking, and misinformation.

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Couldn't help but notice you left off the memes and alternate hot Helens I also provide. Pretty ungrateful.

First, we've been told so many times that the only real way to see this is in Imax that I think a legit number of people are choosing not to see it the first weekend on a regular screen and instead waiting until the 2nd or 3rd weekend when an imax screening opens up near them.

Second I understand not wearing to believe reviews that TC might post because you think he's only been one sided, but it's kind of silly to not believe them because they don't have many followers and then turn around and say you'll wait to see what the Texag consensus is before making up your mind (which is something I see posted on this board often). You're just trading the opinion of one faceless, anonymous internet poster for another.

Third, on a purely anecdotal note, my seventeen year old son, who's big into movies and insisted we go see Oppenheimer the first weekend, doesn't care as much about seeing The Odyssey on the first weekend. He wants to wait and see what the general audience score is. But he does want to see the new Spider-Man movie openin weekend.

Have we talked about this yet? It's hard to keep track in the almost 80 pages.

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Christopher Nolan says the online conversation surrounding The Odyssey is ultimately "irrelevant."

In a recent interview with The Telegraph, the Oscar-winning filmmaker responded to criticism surrounding his adaptation of Homer's epic, which has sparked online debate over some of its casting choices and the use of American accents and modern dialogue in its trailers.

"Comes with the territory," Nolan told the publication. "But look, these conversations that happen before people see the film they're always irrelevant, because no one having them knows what the film actually is yet."

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The director went on to compare the early reaction to The Odyssey with his experience of the beloved Dark Knight trilogy.

"I spent 10 years of my life dealing with Batman," the 55-year-old said. "When I came on to Batman Begins, writers and artists had been working on this beloved character for almost 65 years, and a lot of freighted thoughts were out there about what he represents. And what I learnt over my time on that trilogy is you can't worry about any of that at all. What you have to do is honour the original text by interpreting it in the strongest way you personally can."

Nolan recalled facing similar skepticism before The Dark Knight, particularly after the late Heath Ledger was cast as the Joker. At the time, Ledger was known for rom-com films such as 10 Things I Hate About You and A Knight's Tale, and some fans questioned the casting. Ledger ultimately won a posthumous Academy Award for best supporting actor for his performance.

"In the end, fans of the property even when we were doing something that was not what they would have done enjoyed the sincerity of the attempt to put as good a version of it on screen as we could," Nolan added.

"So, when it comes to The Odyssey, all I can do is make the best film I possibly can in the most sincere way. It's very different from how anyone else would do it, but that's what adaptation is."

Nolan has also addressed The Odyssey's use of modern dialogue.

Speaking to Channel 4 News, the filmmaker said the decision was intended to make Homer's story feel more fresh to modern audiences.

"When you look at the ancient world, people tend to view the ancient world in weird ways and there's a lot of cultural prejudice elevating it just because it's old," he said. "When you go to the poem, what you find is something that's really earthy, grounded and accessible. So, for me, in building the world of the film, what I talk to all the actors about is, I want to center it on that and make it feel very fresh for modern audiences and do away with some of those assumptions."

Following the film's casting announcement, conservative commentator Matt Walsh criticized Lupita Nyong'o's casting as Helen of Troy in posts on X, with Elon Musk replied to one of Walsh's posts, agreeing. Musk also interacted with posts mocking Elliot Page's casting as Sinon.

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His Batman trilogy may end up being the most app comparison, we'll see. I say that because a lot of comic book fans and Batman purists don't like his Batman because it shows very few glimpses of the detective side of Batman and its such a grounded version of the Batman world. But most do admit they are good, fun movies (with The Dark Knight being great).

Maybe that'll be The Odyssey - one of those movies that leaves a lot of people torn. A cool, exciting take that's fun to watch if you can separate it from its source material.

We've seen out of context grabs of these comments to paint them in the worst light possible. Thanks for posting the full context of them, though.

This stood out to me the most:

"So, when it comes to The Odyssey, all I can do is make the best film I possibly can in the most sincere way. It's very different from how anyone else would do it, but that's what adaptation is."

Based on Nolan's track record, I will give it a shot in the theater.

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Best words posted on this site in basically forever.

Then maybe the back-and-forth pissing contests can end and we can get to dissecting the movie because we will all have been able to actually see it.

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Only a few more days left, and The Odyssey, even on premium large screens, barely has any tickets sold... In this example, similar show time, same movie theater, only 2 tickets sold on the big screen, and the IMAX is almost full.

Over 90% of the tickets sold went to 70mm native… pic.twitter.com/BGnvp5YWGB

— Emerald Apple (@AI_EmeraldApple) July 12, 2026

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I feel like Thursday night 10pm showings probably aren't the best gauge of audience interest.

The best theater near me looks to be about 2/3 sold for opening weekend outside the 9am showing for both standard and IMAX. But those are both just anecdotal and generally meaningless 5 days out.

Either way I don't think anyone has said they expect it to have an Avengers type opening weekend, just that it'll do well. And that can happen without selling out every opening weekend show.

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I think the late Thursday showings have gone the same way as the midnight releases. Most people aren't going to go see a movie at 10pm or later anymore (I say that while having tickets to a 2:30 AM IMAX showing of the Odyssey because that was all they had left for the true 70mm).

My wife and I don't have kids and we still aren't gonna go sit down for a movie after 8pm usually.

Sunday the 19th at 7:30am in 70MM

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Sunday the 19th at 7:30am in 70MM

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But why?

70mm tix are insanely hard to get. They sell out weeks in advance and only the earliest or latest showtimes even have seat availability that aren't the first or second row. I had to go to a 12:30am screening of Dunkirk 4 weeks AFTER release date to see it in 70mm.

As a Batman fan, I don't love his trilogy as "Batman films" for some of the reasons you stated (largely the detective aspect), but I do think they're genuinely good movies and really well done, and I still enjoy them.

(Though I do think Batman Begins got overcomplicated and would've benefitted from being more a Year One type story pitting Bats against local gangsters and a corrupt Gotham government.)

I can't imagine there's nearly as many Odyssey superfans, so I'd think he gets more leeway on this one if it's good (which sounds like the case but we'll have to wait and see).

Odysseus sails home in a Viking ship.

The vessel in Nolan’s Odyssey is Draken Harald Hårfagre, the largest Viking ship built in modern times. Built in Haugesund, Norway. Named after Harald Fairhair, our first king.

The Odyssey is set around 1200 BC. Ships like this appeared… pic.twitter.com/V6NbOmzORw

— Viking History (@Vikinghistory) July 13, 2026

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Odysseus sails home in a Viking ship.

The vessel in Nolan's Odyssey is Draken Harald Hr***re, the largest Viking ship built in modern times. Built in Haugesund, Norway. Named after Harald Fairhair, our first king.

The Odyssey is set around 1200 BC. Ships like this appeared around 800 AD. The Viking Age is closer to us today than to Odysseus.

Homer's ships were black, low, open galleys, light enough to be dragged onto the beach at night. Not a 35-meter dragon ship built for the North Atlantic.

A sailing reconstruction of a Mycenaean warship already exists: the Argo, 50 oars, built in Volos, Greece. Nolan filmed in Greece. He still picked the Viking ship.

This week Draken sails down the Norwegian coast to the Oslo premiere. She will be the most authentic thing on screen. She is 2,000 years off.

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If I'm forcing myself to stay up until 3am or waking at 6am on the weekend, it just doesn't seem like I'm seeking entertainment anymore, it feels like a job. Watching movies is still supposed to be fun, right?

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Best words posted on this site in basically forever.

Then maybe the back-and-forth pissing contests can end and we can get to dissecting the movie because we will all have been able to actually see it.

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Would it be feasible to start a second thread that is strictly reactions and discussion of the film once you've seen it, with the parameters that you just post your own opinions, not dump 50 mllion tweets, facebooks, instagrams into - like everyone is accountable for what they are saying as their own opinion?

Hey VeryFuller - is that doable, or more importantly is it enforceable if we put clear-cut rules at the top?

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If I'm forcing myself to stay up until 3am or waking at 6am on the weekend, it just doesn't seem like I'm seeking entertainment anymore, it feels like a job. Watching movies is still supposed to be fun, right?

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lol and that's your opinion but I personally find it fun to sit in a crowded theatre with enthusiastic people to watch an epic film on 1 of 19 special screens in the entire United States. To me (and many others), that is very fun!

I know I'm staff, but I steer clear of any moderation (what a thankless task that is). I participate on these forums just like all the other normies. I think if, like any other thread, you kind of set the guidelines in the OP, that most participants would respect that.

That is what these threads typically turn into once a movie is released. The problem is this movie has had so much controversial build up that, even if you make a separate thread, I think its going to go wheels off.

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Odysseus sails home in a Viking ship.

The vessel in Nolan’s Odyssey is Draken Harald Hårfagre, the largest Viking ship built in modern times. Built in Haugesund, Norway. Named after Harald Fairhair, our first king.

The Odyssey is set around 1200 BC. Ships like this appeared… pic.twitter.com/V6NbOmzORw

— Viking History (@Vikinghistory) July 13, 2026

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Odysseus sails home in a Viking ship.

The vessel in Nolan's Odyssey is Draken Harald Hr***re, the largest Viking ship built in modern times. Built in Haugesund, Norway. Named after Harald Fairhair, our first king.

The Odyssey is set around 1200 BC. Ships like this appeared around 800 AD. The Viking Age is closer to us today than to Odysseus.

Homer's ships were black, low, open galleys, light enough to be dragged onto the beach at night. Not a 35-meter dragon ship built for the North Atlantic.

A sailing reconstruction of a Mycenaean warship already exists: the Argo, 50 oars, built in Volos, Greece. Nolan filmed in Greece. He still picked the Viking ship.

This week Draken sails down the Norwegian coast to the Oslo premiere. She will be the most authentic thing on screen. She is 2,000 years off.

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A quick search shows that they are building a museum to put the Greek ship. Probably weren't going to let the film use it even if they wanted to

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Odysseus sails home in a Viking ship.

The vessel in Nolan’s Odyssey is Draken Harald Hårfagre, the largest Viking ship built in modern times. Built in Haugesund, Norway. Named after Harald Fairhair, our first king.

The Odyssey is set around 1200 BC. Ships like this appeared… pic.twitter.com/V6NbOmzORw

— Viking History (@Vikinghistory) July 13, 2026

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Odysseus sails home in a Viking ship.

The vessel in Nolan's Odyssey is Draken Harald Hr***re, the largest Viking ship built in modern times. Built in Haugesund, Norway. Named after Harald Fairhair, our first king.

The Odyssey is set around 1200 BC. Ships like this appeared around 800 AD. The Viking Age is closer to us today than to Odysseus.

Homer's ships were black, low, open galleys, light enough to be dragged onto the beach at night. Not a 35-meter dragon ship built for the North Atlantic.

A sailing reconstruction of a Mycenaean warship already exists: the Argo, 50 oars, built in Volos, Greece. Nolan filmed in Greece. He still picked the Viking ship.

This week Draken sails down the Norwegian coast to the Oslo premiere. She will be the most authentic thing on screen. She is 2,000 years off.

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Like with WWII movies featuring tanks, ships, and warplanes, The Odyssey is using a ship design that will "look the part" for the vast majority of audiences - never mind the fact that this design typical of Norway would not be designed for centuries.

I'm sure it's going to be a good movie in the entertainment sense, but that ship inaccuracy alone is just infuriating...and I'm sure just one of many inaccuracies. is it too much to ask to stay true to period (unless you're going to go all-in futuristic adaptation)?

Knowing how Nolan is something like this would have been meticulously researched, this wouldn't have been a mistake.

Makes me really curious to see and hear after the fact why he's made some of the choices he's made.

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I'm sure it's going to be a good movie in the entertainment sense, but that ship inaccuracy alone is just infuriating...and I'm sure just one of many inaccuracies. is it too much to ask to stay true to period (unless you're going to go all-in futuristic adaptation)?

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Oh my, I hope you're okay.

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Knowing how Nolan is something like this would have been meticulously researched, this wouldn't have been a mistake.

Makes me really curious to see and hear after the fact why he's made some of the choices he's made.

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Meticulous research is well appreciated, but when you limit yourself by wanting to use practical effects and sets no matter what, then that's how you get this boat. Or go back to Dunkirk - the Spitfires were accurate for 1940, but the Messerschmitts were not. The Messerschmitts were not German at all, they were Spanish-built after the war. But those tend to be the only available Messerschmitts that still fly, so in adhering to practical over CGI or miniatures, it was the only option. Although he did use a big RC aircraft to depict the Heinkel bomber; I don't believe any of those remain in flying condition, and again, there was a Spanish-built version used in movies like Patton and Battle of Britain that crashed several years ago.