Anagrammatic Nudist said:

---

-Tim realizes gun is now missing, and knows the only person that wanted it is the security guard who asked him for it.

-Tim gets even by planting the pill bottle either on Tim, or in his possessions.

-Gaitok gets fired, embarrassed and now shunned by Mook.

-Gaitok goes on shooting spree, trying to kill Tim, but takes out someone else tragically.

Seems pretty logical to me.

---

"Tim gets even" for what, though? He stole a gun from hotel security, then Gaitok got it back. They're even now. I just can't come up with any practical reason for Tim to reopen that can of worms. Doesn't meant there won't be one, it just seems odd to me at this point.

I just don't see why Tim would 'want revenge' once he ultimately discovers the gun is gone. He'd more likely just freak out knowing it's gone. How would he ever expect the security guard to know where to find it? If that were me I'd wonder who in my own family that has access to the house all the time took it, and next would be housekeeping.

Even if he did connect it to Gaitok, who cares? The gun part for Tim is done. I don't think the gun part for Gaitok is.

Edit: TCTTS beat me to it.

Exactly.

Stealing the gun providing drama for both the Time storyline (he almost killed himself) and the Gaitok storyline (almost losing job, and Mook's respect at same time). I think the goal is to keep tension and possible explosion in every storyline so we keep guessing until the end.

Repeatedly showing the blender may just be symbolism for how every storyline is thrown into the mix of the final series ending - everything all mixed together to explode somewhere. OR, it could be the poison fruit gets in there accidentally or intentionally.

I don't think you can predict this show, unless someone predicted Tanya killing a boatload - literally - of people in prior season. It will be something wacky.

Went and rewatched opening to episode 1 but as expected no additional clues to discover, even with context. It did remind me I wish we had seen more of the meditation lady in recent episodes.

I kind of hope it is Belinda shooting Greg.

TCTTS said:

---

Possibly. But that's usually just another term for "bad writing," something Mike What isn't known for.

---

It's crazy when I think of him as the dork from School of Rock. I don't think anyone had any idea the level of writer he'd turn out to be. He was just the Orange County guy.

I go back and forth between thinking the gun shots we hear in The opening are just the two guards at the gun range and the poison berry smoothie is the cause of death, but I can't imagine why the hotel guest and staff would be panicking if that were the case.

hurleyag said:

---

I go back and forth between thinking the gun shots we hear in The opening are just the two guards at the gun range and the poison berry smoothie is the cause of death, but I can't imagine why the hotel guest and staff would be panicking if that were the case.

---

There were bullets careening and glass breaking all around in the opening.

hurleyag said:

---

I go back and forth between thinking the gun shots we hear in The opening are just the two guards at the gun range and the poison berry smoothie is the cause of death, but I can't imagine why the hotel guest and staff would be panicking if that were the case.

---

A body is floating face down in the water in the series opening.

Brian Earl Spilner said:

---

TCTTS said:

---

Possibly. But that's usually just another term for "bad writing," something Mike What isn't known for.

---

It's crazy when I think of him as the dork from School of Rock. I don't think anyone had any idea the level of writer he'd turn out to be. He was just the Orange County guy.

---

Well he wrote school of rock.

Lochlan totally date raped Saxon. I don't think he even took a pill.

His statement in the morning of oh man, I don't remember anything was awfully convenient.

Saxon has been portrayed the whole time as the bad guy and really the protagonist against his siblings. But I think he turns out to be the victim and he may snap which brings into play both the blender and the gun.

Lochlans quiet demeanor, I think betrays something sinister.

jesus...some of you guys really want a lot of dumb **** to happen in the last two episodes.

Saxon's memory appeared to show him masturbating while his brother had sex next to him

Lochlan's memory appeared to show someone else's arm jacking off saxon


The girls said his brother was wanking him but that arm looked female in the short clip, they could just be pulling his……leg

I'm trying to figure out an angle where Saxon's death basically allows company fraud to be placed on him, which is how Tim gets out of his situation but can't get there yet.

Complete Idiot said:

---

Saxon's memory appeared to show him masturbating while his brother had sex next to him

Lochlan's memory appeared to show someone else's arm jacking off saxon


The girls said his brother was wanking him but that arm looked female in the short clip, they could just be pulling his……leg

---

I didn't interpret it as Saxon's memory vs Lochlan's memory.

I thought it was all Saxon's slow, gradual realization, which his reaction seemed to confirm.

Zombie Jon Snow said:

---

Lochlan totally date raped Saxon. I don't think he even took a pill.

His statement in the morning of oh man, I don't remember anything was awfully convenient.

Saxon has been portrayed the whole time as the bad guy and really the protagonist against his siblings. But I think he turns out to be the victim and he may snap which brings into play both the blender and the gun.

Lochlans quiet demeanor, I think betrays something sinister.

---

So at the temple, was Loch starting to remember the night before, or was he reminiscing and maybe starting to fantasize about his sister?

It appeared to me that his memory of the night before was returning to him.

TCTTS said:

---

Complete Idiot said:

---

Saxon's memory appeared to show him masturbating while his brother had sex next to him

Lochlan's memory appeared to show someone else's arm jacking off saxon


The girls said his brother was wanking him but that arm looked female in the short clip, they could just be pulling his……leg

---

I didn't interpret it as Saxon's memory vs Lochlan's memory.

I thought it was all Saxon's slow, gradual realization, which his reaction seemed to confirm.

---

Well they showed Saxon reacting to his memories and then when Lochlan started to meditate it was the one shown example of his memory, and they showed his reaction to it - so seemed clear to me whose brain was seeing which images.

I need to go back and watch then. Otherwise, I don't understand why Saxon would be so freaked out, seeing as he clearly remembered the interaction as a handjob from his brother as well. He was freaked out about it long before the girls told him.

Classic case of browning out.



I took it as Saxon initially freaked out that he thought he jerked himself to his brother having sex with the chick (bad enough obviously), then she filled in more details as his hangover morning went on and it became a little more clear to him after she said what she did.

For Loch, not sure if he was dreaming about his sister while meditating or not, but I just took it as the meditative process served the same role as the chick for Saxon, his mind cleared a tad and it allowed him to remember more details and it wigged him out.

dave94 said:

---

I'm still wondering who is playing the resort owner's husband. I tried to make out the voice when Sam Rockwell was meeting him but couldn't.

(If the actor has been revealed somewhere please only post with spoiler tags!)

---

They showed a picture of him during episode 1 or 2

TCTTS said:

---

I need to go back and watch then. Otherwise, I don't understand why Saxon would be so freaked out, seeing as he clearly remembered the interaction as a handjob from his brother as well. He was freaked out about it long before the girls told him.

---

Thought about doing this real quick, then realized what it would actually entail - analyzing footage of one brother jerking off the other - and decided it's simply going to have to remain a mystery for now.

While they did show each brother with their own memory, I think I misinterpreted Saxon's memory as masturbating when apparently it was obvious it was his brother, based on what I've read.

And I'll trust that and not rewatch either.

Complete Idiot said:

---

While they did show each brother with their own memory, I think I misinterpreted Saxon's memory as masturbating when apparently it was obvious it was his brother, based on what I've read.

And I'll trust that and not rewatch either.

---

I haven't rewatched but I remember thinking something was odd about Loch's motion (for lack of a better descriptor) when he was having sex was weird. The shot was across Saxon at Loch and the girl. Loch's arm was moving fast and at the time I couldn't figure out wtf he was supposed to be doing. Then the memories came back and it was like, aha!

The dude gave his brother a handy while ****ing the girl. They showed it.

His brother remembered it the next morning.

Loch remembered it mediating.

White Lotus jumped the shark in a predictable yet horrible way last night. Just never thought they'd get so graphically awful with it.

TCTTS said:

---

---

This has to be one of the best uses of a gif in TA history. Well played, sir.

Muy said:

---

White Lotus jumped the shark in a predictable yet horrible way last night. Just never thought they'd get so graphically awful with it.

---

What's so graphic about a handy j between brothers?

Your saying incest, with a brother handling his brother while railing a married French (Canadian) chick,
who likes young dudes and also banged the brother while another chick may have watched (since she knew about the handie) was predictable? Interesting…

oragator said:

---

Your saying incest, with a brother handling his brother while railing a married French (Canadian) chick,
who likes young dudes and also banged the brother while another chick may have watched (since she knew about the handie) was predictable? Interesting…

---

What? No.

The walrus girl didn't know about it. The French girl getting banged while he was giving the handy knew.

I just went back and watched the scene to see if I misread it. It's kind of up in the air. When he says it didn't happen Chelsea looks at him like he is full of crap, which implies she knew. But at the end of the scene she turns to the French chick and says "what?" Like she didn't.
So not sure in the end.

oragator said:

---

Your saying incest, with a brother handling his brother while railing a married French (Canadian) chick,
who likes young dudes and also banged the brother while another chick may have watched (since she knew about the handie) was predictable? Interesting…

---

lol. No but little brother had been checking out older brother since the beginning.

oragator said:

---

I just went back and watched the scene to see if I misread it. It's kind of up in the air. When he says it didn't happen Chelsea looks at him like he is full of crap, which implies she knew. But at the end of the scene she turns to the French chick and says "what?" Like she didn't.
So not sure in the end.

---

It was clear to me she didn't know about it.

I interpreted it as she didn't know and had left the party before things got to business.