If this translates to how he's going to treat UAP/NHI in general (save for the shooting down part), as much as I hate the man on a personal level, what a welcomed change of pace this would be.

This is why I have harped on Rules of Engagement. We keep hearing that all anti-drone tech has been useless against these objects. Well, is that true? Have we really tried to take them down? If you believe Kirby, the answer is...NO. https://t.co/KpZusZDmS1

— Joe Murgia (@TheUfoJoe) December 13, 2024

It doesn't appear that the game was actually stopped *because* of these objects, but still pretty wild nonetheless...

1979 NFL game stopped due to unknown objects above the arena pic.twitter.com/2sfgtlLuO5

— Daily UFO (@DailyUFOPosts) December 13, 2024

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They are going to have to be forced to "disclose". They are not going to show their cards because "it's the right thing to do" or because "the public deserves to know."

And I don't see how they can be forced to do so.

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You mean the admin is going to stay mum the entire time all the way up to aliens landing on front lawns and saying hi to everyone?

Agristotle said:

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They are going to have to be forced to "disclose". They are not going to show their cards because "it's the right thing to do" or because "the public deserves to know."

And I don't see how they can be forced to do so.

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If convincing enough videos were to be leaked, of NHI bodies/craft, backed by credible sources and their confirmation, with an accompanying narrative, witnesses, paperwork, etc - that made national headlines - IMO, the gatekeepers would be forced to disclose, in some way, shape, or form. Not everything, of course, but at least an acknowledgment.

Otherwise, a mass, relatively close-up sighting caught on camera, of a large, unmistakably NHI-controlled craft, would probably do the trick as well.

A fever-pitch 100x what we're seeing now would erupt in the wake of either, and there's no way the gatekeepers would be able to stay silent.

NEW:

-Ocean County, NJ Sheriff Mastronardy confirms observation of 50 (!) "drones" (UAP) coming ashore

-Shortly thereafter, a US Coast Guard vessel observes over a dozen objects at close range

-Ocean County Sheriff drone unit watched as one object "disappeared out of thin air" pic.twitter.com/PvNjOmzadr

— MarikvR (@MvonRen) December 14, 2024

Great. Just great. https://t.co/9t2tLEMFcu

— Matthew Pines (@matthew_pines) December 13, 2024

Community Note proposal's saying it is CGI

TCTTS said:

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NEW:

-Ocean County, NJ Sheriff Mastronardy confirms observation of 50 (!) "drones" (UAP) coming ashore

-Shortly thereafter, a US Coast Guard vessel observes over a dozen objects at close range

-Ocean County Sheriff drone unit watched as one object "disappeared out of thin air" pic.twitter.com/PvNjOmzadr

— MarikvR (@MvonRen) December 14, 2024

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This is where a lot of my frustration comes from. They we don't do intercepts because of collateral. Fine. I can accept that (begrudgingly). But we know these things have a presence over the sea and we know these coast guard has been ready and willing to work on it. We also know there is a pattern of them coming and going to sea.

Sooooooo


Maybe do an intercept at sea? exactly like we did with the China Balloon. Or one of them at least. I know, common sense, right? So why is it not being done? And so begins the same argument anew.

It's the one thing I just can't make up my mind on. Is the federal government actually trying to do anything about this or not? Officially they are. By action they are not. Behind the scenes, who knows.

Just rehashing the same things again I know, sorry, but this wrinkle of local resources actively trying to do something while feds seem to be playing hands off has me wondering….

I believe the "gunfire" was added in post processing

Mr President Elect said:

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Community Note proposal's saying it is CGI

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Good to know. At this point it's officially pointless to keep posting these videos.

This is a great segment of reporting. Accurate.

1. I will affirm there are incursions over the Salem Nuclear Power Plant. The airspace is being violated by unknown units.

2. I will affirm that “anti-drone tech” has been ineffective to date.

3. I will affirm that there is FLIR…

— Jeremy Kenyon Lockyer Corbell (@JeremyCorbell) December 14, 2024

Great work from @RichMcHugh confirming these supposed 'drones' were seen coming from the ocean. If they are over the ocean, then why can we not shoot them down? The answer, I'm told, is that they are evading the most high-tech US surveillance. More on this on our @NewsNation… https://t.co/t0tkBG6e46

— Ross Coulthart (@rosscoulthart) December 14, 2024

NEW: Alejandro Mayorkas says there is nothing they can do about the NJ drones because they don't have the "authority" and suggests people are just mistaking them for drones bought at "convenience stores."

Biggest clown in America.

Mayorkas says people might simply be mistaking… pic.twitter.com/Ln0d43yfFL

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) December 13, 2024

TCTTS said:

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Mr President Elect said:

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Community Note proposal's saying it is CGI

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Good to know. At this point it's officially pointless to keep posting these videos.

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Just like any other event, fake news floods the internet. I always take a few seconds at least to watch the videos to spot easy fakes now. This one the gunfire is looped. Looks overlaid onto the lights video.

And this is what the government and naysayers latch onto of course.

Totally. The gunfire looked so wonky to me that it felt real, if that makes sense. That, and I really like Matthew Pines, who retweeted it/gave it a bit more credibility. Seems we were both duped.

NEW: NewsNation reporter says his entire view of the New Jersey drones has changed after he witnessed 50 of them flying from the ocean.

The drones are reportedly 8-10 feet wide and can’t be detected because they don’t give off heat.

“I gotta be honest here. You know when this… pic.twitter.com/2tVGasw2bc

— Collin Rugg (@CollinRugg) December 14, 2024

Texas Gulf Coast residents now spotting mysterious drones too

🚨BREAKING: "We Have No Idea What It Is"

A film crew for ABC news were shocked by the appearance of this glowing 'Energy Orb' of light in New Jersey. These are the ones that interest me more than the drones.

Why are the orbs in play? pic.twitter.com/sJwq3umEcB

— Jay Anderson (@TheProjectUnity) December 14, 2024

TURF WARS!

pic.twitter.com/a8NHe1HIJa

— Bob's News (@dyversityhire) December 14, 2024

Long form news segment of that reporter who went out and captured some footage for those interested. Some good conversation here.



I will be the first to say I will bend my mind as hard as I can to rationalize these occurrences. But there are just some things I can't shake. One commonality I am seeing among the as of yet non-debunked stuff, is how low and how silent these things are. I am very aware of how bad people generally are at estimating distance but when report after report comes out of drones mere hundreds of feet off the ground and flying directly over residential areas that have never had air traffic over them before, you have to take into account I think. Even if you have to append it to "sub 2K feet" for margin of error.

Same thing with the size. Almost unanimous from what I can tell of SUV sized. Mixed with lighting patterns equating to large swept wing aircraft.....just doesn't jive in my head.

I also have experience trying to capture things at night on film and it is extremely difficult. No expert at all and I have never been able to dial in what is clear to my eye even at night but a blurry mess on screen. Infuriating even. So when you have intelligent people who don't deal in hyperbole say "look, I have this footage and it's hard to make out but I can assure you, it was no plane." I can also take that into consideration to an extent. Been in that position before. Not with UAPs though of course.

I do like the theory of training, testing, red teaming, etc. a lot.....but every night this goes on is starting to stretch it IMO. Even if the government was ran by space lizards and Illumanati, there's always been an unwritten rule to not mess with the public too much. Or at all ideally. I just can't see it for this long in one area. Even taking into account any super secret squirrel orgs that no one knows exists. May be wrong on that of course but gut feeling is nah.

Real threat being scanned for by our best tech that may/may not not be public yet? Interesting one.....

Either way, the government response is pissing everyone off at this point. "We don't know what it is" mixed with "there is no threat" ain't cutting it anymore. Even if they know what this is or not. Their messaging sucks and is allaying exactly zero fears or concerns.

Random insomnia thoughts.

Very well said. I'm right there with you, point by point, on all of it.

TCTTS said:

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pic.twitter.com/a8NHe1HIJa

— Bob's News (@dyversityhire) December 14, 2024

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Seems LARPy to me, but it does check a lot of boxes. The P4 (the drone in the picture) is probably too small to carry detection equipment and "horn antennas". It can only carry a few pounds; it's a technology demonstrator, not a detection or weapons platform. But the P5 and P7 are much bigger with up to 10 times the payload, range, and loiter time.

TCTTS said:

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🚨BREAKING: "We Have No Idea What It Is"

A film crew for ABC news were shocked by the appearance of this glowing 'Energy Orb' of light in New Jersey. These are the ones that interest me more than the drones.

Why are the orbs in play? pic.twitter.com/sJwq3umEcB

— Jay Anderson (@TheProjectUnity) December 14, 2024

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I can't help being very skeptical of videos claiming to be of energy orbs. I'm very near sighted. The pics and videos of "orbs" look *exactly* like what I see when I look at bright lights at night without glasses or contact lenses. But OTOH, trained cameramen would absolutely not make that mistake.

Where is Spyderman//McKelvey's Curse/PowerLover/CharlesHicksonknows/GreersPimp in all of this???

I like it. Extremely feasible with underlying proof and motivations given.