Yeah, I'm still not completely counting out those videos being real. I just think he's become the absolute worst ambassador for them.

Oh my

NEW: House Hearing on New Jersey Drones

Speaker Johnson: “We need straight answers.”

White House Press Sec: “We’re closely tracking.”

Stanhope NJ Mayor: “There’s a lot of fear.” pic.twitter.com/eqqZXC1PP3

— UAP James (@UAPJames) December 10, 2024

Beat me to it. Though was just gonna post KJP portion of it. Which is just 2.5 minutes of deflect, deflect, we are aware, deflect…

China is a full decade ahead of us? That's why they sent a freaking balloon...

🚨 President Biden has been briefed on the New Jersey drone sightings

“We are closely tracking the activity.”

— White House Press Sec. Karine Jean-Pierre pic.twitter.com/X7XBUYeyv7

— UAP James (@UAPJames) December 11, 2024

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China is a full decade ahead of us? That's why they sent a freaking balloon...

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Honestly not a bad way to test a first response. And China is ALL in on strategic tech. It's maddening how little we seem to care sometimes. They are explicitly developing to weaponize and we just dawdle along like normal with no real urgency aside from normal market pressure.

Drone and quantum computing are the new hotness and China outpaces us significantly on both fronts. Seen estimates that they invest at a minimum 6x spend and personnel on quantum alone compared to us.

I'm on board. Whether it's human tech or NHI, I've totally been getting that same, A.I./Midjourney vibe, except in physical 3D space. Where it's trying to replicate the real thing, but just feels… off, in that creepy, six-finger/funhouse-mirror/close-but-not-quite-right fashion.

Interesting idea that I don't fully buy, but it would at least explain certain aspects. That said, you'd think we'd have way more covert ways of doing this…

I have come to the unfortunate conclusion that the drones flying over NJ, are searching for a nuclear threat or EMP that has been planted through the ports or through our open borders.

Gov. cant announce that because it would cause all out mayhem.

Hope Im wrong, other ideas?

— Saul Goodman (@SaulGoodma355) December 9, 2024

Hannity: NJ Drones Possible ‘Dry Run’ for Attack

Rep. Jeff Van Drew says the drones could be China conducting surveillance.

FBI has received over 3,000 tips and are analyzing images received from concerned Americans. pic.twitter.com/HzOfkEcPp5

— UAP James (@UAPJames) December 11, 2024

"It's not just over Jersey, we had a very similiar issue over Langley Air Force Base.

This is something far more complex ,that can be flown over the horizen and has a loiter capability of several hours."

Lue Elizondo speaks on recent drone incursions in New Jersey.… pic.twitter.com/VcG55dz6ru

— Red Panda Koala (@RedPandaKoala) December 11, 2024

Interesting:

More on the Langley swarms… https://t.co/ydsjjoI2t2

— greenbudha (@greenbudha) December 11, 2024

This reminds me of the stories from the end of Summer (that spread thanks in part to Center of a New American Century conference) about US plans to swam the Taiwan strait with drones in the event of a Chinese invasion.
Business Insider may not be the best source, but it's non-paywalled:
https://www.businessinsider.com/china-taiwan-drone-swarms-uav-us-playing-catch-up-production-2024-10

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Vast fleets of unmanned aerial and naval drones will likely darken the skies and hide beneath waves, bringing with them a deadly threat that Taiwan and its allies are ill-prepared to counter.

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There's a lot more about China's numbers advantage in drone production, but

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"The United States, China, and other states around the world are rapidly aiming to develop autonomous drones that do not need such input. If we can master that technology, electronic warfare will be less central to the drone space," said Kallenborn.

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"Currently the US and Taiwan do not have sufficient air defenses and CUAS [counter drone] systems to deal with the Chinese drone threat," she said.

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Food for thought.

🚨🇺🇸#BREAKING | NEWS
NEW JERSEY LAWMAKERS
CALL FOR STATE OF EMERGENCY DO TO ALL THE UAPs AND DRONES.

They had a secret classified meeting today and another one scheduled for tomorrow, but public is frustrated they’re not getting answers from the FBI and FAA they’ll probably… pic.twitter.com/2VTuT5cCD4

— Todd Paron🇺🇸🇬🇷🎧👽 (@tparon) December 11, 2024

Same idea. Again, it's hard to believe our government couldn't be more covert about it (as opposed to using the most obvious, biggest, brightest drones ever), but whatever…

This is the best theory I've seen for the bizarre drone activity in New Jersey. It also explains why local officials wouldn't be read in.
(It would create major panic)
Basically a DoD/military operation in hopes of stopping a terrorist attack. If anyone has any inside info lmk. pic.twitter.com/hXX9paVYoD

— Clint Russell (@LibertyLockPod) December 11, 2024

Something like that would explain the widespread activity over populated areas, the open use of new tech, and the lack of official response. But it raises even more questions. Why are the drones coming in from offshore? Why follow US Coast Guard ships? Most obviously, why are they operating almost only at night?

My biggest problem with the China hypothesis is that this is happening on the Atlantic coast, not the Pacific. China might be capable of developing advanced drone tech, but logistics are still logistics. I'm comfortable dismissing China as the actor here.

Really good segment on Cuomo last night with Lue.

This is actually a good idea at this point. From today's C&C blog, which is following the story (emphasis mine):

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The hearing ended lamely, trailing off without any climax or resolution. The FBI remains baffled. They have no plan. They are hoping the public can tell them what's going on. I'm thinking about calling the tipline and reporting that one of the drones contains the names of 40 as-yet-unarrested January 6th suspects. Maybe that would do it?

I have another idea. Let's offer $10K to anyone who can capture one of the drones. C&C could raise that amount in about ten minutes. Who's with me? If you guys like the idea, I'll make the offer today. Let me know in the comments.

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How would they capture something that high up? Use another drone and netgun?

Has anyone else tried to fly a drone up to see what those drones are about?

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My biggest problem with the China hypothesis is that this is happening on the Atlantic coast, not the Pacific. China might be capable of developing advanced drone tech, but logistics are still logistics. I'm comfortable dismissing China as the actor here.

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Yeah, nothing manufactured in China ever ends up on the East Coast.

But there have been drone sightings in other places, not just New Jersey.

Point of the links I posted above, is that the US is definitely ramping up drone development and testing. And we're not the only nation doing so. There's a lot of other meat in the articles. But I would think US tech is the most likely answer. 2nd is a foreign adversary screwing with us. 3rd is that they could be engaging each other.

I'd suggesting reading up on drone warfare development and plans like operation "Hellscape."

Go ahead and tell me what these are if they're not goventment drones conducting some sort of exercise.

Quite a statement here. From Congressman Jefferson Van Drew. NJ Representative. I don't know anything bout this guy. Is he a loon or legit?

TLDR: Alluding these are foreign drones and specifically probably Iranian. Says Iranian drone mothership been missing from port and correlates to sightings timeline (WTF?). Lots of hardline rhetoric. Boils down to we need to quit messing around and shoot these sumbeeches down already.

Would be great to finally at least have an answer, but it's one that only introduces a whole other round of concerning questions…

New Jersey Republican Congressman Jeff Van Drew drops a bombshell, revealing that Iran is behind the drones seen over New Jersey.

He claims Iran launched a "mothership" to deploy them, citing credible "anonymous sources" for this information.

Van Drew quickly dismisses the… pic.twitter.com/CX1VCPK0f2

— Shadow of Ezra (@ShadowofEzra) December 11, 2024

Somehow these claimed Chinese or (now) Iranian drones can violate our most highly protected airspaces at will for weeks, not get caught, not get shot down, and always scoot away when approached. Yet these nefarious state actors don’t use this tech against Taiwan or Israel. https://t.co/rs6ZcbPVi9

— Richard Geldreich (@richgel999) December 11, 2024

I highly doubt Iran has the capability to send a "mothership" that can somehow evade all our naval defenses and then remotely send car-sized drones en masse without a single one crashing or being shot down.But if true,this is very concerning from a national security perspective. https://t.co/487etZTvvu

— UAP News (@HighPeaks77) December 11, 2024

One reason I don't buy the Iran mothership theory is that US Northern Command has explicitly stated it has conducted a so-called analysis of the NJ drones and has received no request to assist by DOD

IRL I think they have no clue: Which IMO is more terrifying https://t.co/AtESln0G98

— Saagar Enjeti (@esaagar) December 11, 2024

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Would be great to finally at least have an answer, but it's one that only introduces a whole other round of concerning questions…

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Agreed. And if there is one thing that I believe the administration would hold secret like NHI, it would be their inability to figure out if it is NHI or not. Nobody likes being caught incompetent. Especially an org with billions in funding and a mandate to literally protect us.

Which brings up another point I've seen cooking around the web and I never really considered. The FBI. The seem to have the lead jurisdiction here but they would have no real expertise or equipment in anything UAS related. Why would they? It's not their forte. UAS would be FAA, Air Force, probably Space Force, and local military commands. Maybe some obscure orgs we don't know about. But a criminal investigative force? Theory elsewhere is that no one knew how to even approach this initially and just came up with someone has to be doing something illegal, ergo, here you go FBI. It's yours now. That has to be at least part of the inefficiency of the response so far, no?

Great points.

yeah....Iran...sure


trail balloon from the PTB?

Pentagon press briefing ongoing. Dipping in and out of this topic

https://www.youtube.com/live/Lltd9rhNiEs

I'll update periodically with some notes:

• These are NOT US military
• Local LE is investigating (No federal implication?)
• NOT foreign assets
• Firmly denied Iranian mothership or drones theory. Absolutely a solid no
• Once again asked what these are. Cannot even say if these are even drones vs small planes
• But CAN say no threats to installations or civilians
• Also says that local military commanders DO have authority and capability to defend their bases if need be. Interesting...
• Follow up Q of if unable to even identify even what they are how can say if threat or not. Punted again with "initial assessment of no threat" with blank stare like questioner was the one who was stupid.
• Done

What a **** show…

🚨Pentagon says there is no Iranian "Mothership" 🚨

"There is no Iranian ship off the coast of the United States and there is no so called 'Mothership' launching drones towards the United States."

Pentagon Spokeswoman denies claims of New Jersey congressman pic.twitter.com/2SPtimOaDY

— Red Panda Koala (@RedPandaKoala) December 11, 2024

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What a **** show…

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Yeah, kinda figured. Pretty bold claim by that congresscritter. Not that our admin is exactly pure of heart but homeboy definitely had the fire in him to be taken without a grain of salt. For me at least.

Of the top 5 air forces in the world:
US Air Force (#1)
US Navy (#2)
US Army (#4)
US Marines (#5).

We also have a Coast Guard that routinely combats air and shipborne drug trafficking.