The hardcover of Encounters sold out within hours of Joe Rogan’s podcast airing.
My press has ordered more and said they will be in stock within two days.

— dwpasulka (@dwpasulka) January 25, 2024

Is Bob Lazar the real deal?

Invisible College 👎
Individuals in CR Programs 👍

Diana Pasulka (Author of American Cosmic), shares her thoughts about Bob Lazar. She says that members of the Invisible College think the Lazar story is not true.

She also reveals that she knows… pic.twitter.com/t64c6O3LFJ

— Mike Colangelo (@MikeColangelo) June 4, 2023

16 page report. After reading I don't think it's as "shameful" as those tweets present. It basically says the government has been inefficient at creating a streamlined process for reporting.

Shocking that the feds suck at efficiency.

Now, if one wants to question why the DoD didn't get it done sooner or whether they deliberately were dragging their feet, that's valid. The report doesn't raise the question or try to answer it. I suspect the alien cover up crowd will speculate on those things.

About 2 years to investigate and write up the declassified version. Wonder how much was spent on that

Pasulka deserves credit for serious research and helping to bring out serious people, led by Nolan.

BUT she can't escape the lens of "my weird journey." That's fine but - relatively - not necessarily helpful.

Much more helpful would be the talks of Lazar and Nolan et al. She talks "both sides" of Lazar because she's a middle woman subject to disinformation.

I personally believe Lazar, and think Pasulka is trustworthy …

Even as some of her backgrounders are undoubtedly disinfo (which can be gleaned from the 2 books)

Therefore, recommend listening to consistent and reluctant experiencers, Travis Walton being top of that list

Tucker and Dave Grusch have an interesting conversation here:

Tuck n Dave

There's a strong cumulative case for the phenomenon being real:

1. Several decades of witness testimony.
2. Government secrecy and reluctance to engage with the topic.
3. Declassified documents revealing that the USG took this very seriously while claiming there's "nothing to… pic.twitter.com/zz0Lq88UTY

— DiscloSummer 🛸 (@Disclosure202) January 28, 2024

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There's a strong cumulative case for the phenomenon being real:

1. Several decades of witness testimony.
2. Government secrecy and reluctance to engage with the topic.
3. Declassified documents revealing that the USG took this very seriously while claiming there's "nothing to see here."
4. Testimonies from insiders.
5. Testimony under oath.
6. Government interest (UAPDA, hearings, UAPTF, AAWSAP, AATIP ++)
7. Talking to people I personally know and trust.
8. Multi sensor data from radar, IR, cameras, and eyewitness observations.
9. Leaked government documents (Podesta emails)

Added together the cumulative case for a "there, there" is so strong, that it's irrational to say there's "zero hard evidence." In fact, taking the position that this can all be explained by misidentifications, hoaxes, crazy people and so on, is so dishonest and illogical that I'd say that it's not a sane approach. Therefore, the people propagating that view are either stupid, dishonest, blinded by their own beliefs, or they are for some other reason unable to engage with this topic in a serious manner.

That's why I recommend the mute and disengagement strategy. Their approach is simply put totally irrelevant.

Now, I'm not saying we know what we're dealing with. I would also say that the best approach to any information is that if it sounds too good to be true, it is. And that we should be skeptical of most things. The issue I have with debunkers is, simply put, that they're NOT skeptical.

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It's a difficult thing to process and even harder to accept.

The real issue is the one being covered up.

I'm sympathetic to those who believe it was fake because many of their points are excellent. People like Bart Sibrel are needed, especially in calling out government lies.

And here this thread converges with them: the astronauts, of which Edgar Mitchell was possibly the most honest, experienced the High Strangeness. And, I believe, warning.

Thus we haven't been back in over a generation, and all the lying. Last time?

December 1972, Apollo 17, for budgetary and political reasons. Oh? Really?

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If there were structures on the moon, if it is a claimed "territory," or if it's artificial, that would have some explanatory power wouldn't it?

Why aren't we walking all over the moon? Why aren't rich people streaming from it right now? The technology won't allow it? Money problems? Does anyone believe that?

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Absolutely. Economic, political, and ROI concerns are entirely sufficient to explain why the Apollo program didn't continue. You don't need "warnings" from hypothetical moonmen.

As an aside, I'll take the opportunity to throw out a strong recommendation for Apple TV+'s series "For All Mankind" to see an alternative history timeline where the space race continued past Apollo. It's a great show for NASA nerds and soap opera aficionados.

The facts I stated are illuminating, aren't they?

Watch some interviews with Edgar Mitchell, a supremely impressive astronaut.

Rep. Tim Burchett | Classified Briefing, David Grusch & Disinformation Agents

Interview per Project Unity

I would obviously take this all with a massive grain of salt, but current speculation is that this source could be one of the 30+ whistleblowers tied to Grusch. I'm leaning toward the side of bullsh*t, but thought it was an interesting read nonetheless...

SOURCE:https://t.co/GLEbWp2DJF

— 💭 think tank (@528vibes) January 30, 2024

https://www.reddit.com/r/wecomeinpeace/comments/17hoaqv/leaks_provided_to_michael_herrera_by_black

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If you've been paying attention to Michael Herrera, he's been slowly revealing information leaked to him by an insider who is an advocate for public disclosure, and has been in the program for decades.

I have been in direct contact with Michael and have independently verified that Michael met this person and they went to a secured facility/base together. I believe this person is who he says he is mostly due to the nature in which he brought Michael to this location. I can't talk about it publicly, but I've had private video calls with Ross Coulthart, Chris Lehto, and Stephen Diener and shared evidence with them off-the-record, and I'm hoping they'll soon start to speak about their impressions of what I've shared. If you think about all the rumors we are hearing through Grusch and through Michael Shellenberger about 30+ first-hand witnesses coming forward, I suspect this person is one of those people.

SPECULATION DISCLAIMER: This post is full of woo and some very wild, hard to believe stuff. No proof has been provided to me about these claims. If you don't want to entertain speculation, this post isn't for you. The only reason I am entertaining this AT ALL is because I know the person Michael got this information from is very important, and at this time, I believe he is an authentic, first-hand participant in the program. It is entirely possible this is disinformation, but for what it's worth, with everything I know about Michael and this insider, I don't think that's what this is.

In this post, I'll attempt to summarize what Michael has spoken about publicly about these leaks, and try to fill in some gaps with things he's told me privately that I have permission to share. Keep in mind, my impression is this person is involved with a specific aspect of the program (EMP Weaponry, reverse engineering, crash recovery, recruitment), and does not have knowledge of the big picture. Even at a high level, compartmentalization takes place.

Defining the major "groups" at play here:

Blue Group: The "above board" black budget operations, and general acknowledged government activities operating within congressional oversight. These guys are unaware of and do not deal with non-human tech.

Black Group: An organization started by our government in the 1940s to reverse engineer non-human tech. They succeeded, but over the various presidential administrations, oversight eventually got cut off and they became an unacknowledged rogue operation that operate on their own set of rules. They are a nebulous entity that exists throughout Blue Group and the private sector, like a cancer. Three letter agencies mean nothing. Geographical and political borders mean nothing. They operate everywhere. Federal and local governments, local police, public and private corporations, etc.

Here are the bullet points of information leaked by this insider:

• Reverse Engineered ET craft: Black group has successfully recovered and reverse engineered non-human UFO technology and use them in operations all around the world.
• Other ET Tech: The flying crafts are some of the least interesting, "boring tech" available. There are other technologies far more exciting with more utilitarian use that could benefit humanity. (Idk what this tech is, but this is nearly a direct quote from the insider.)
• EMP Weaponry: We have developed EMP weaponry that can and has been targeted at individual aircraft and ET Craft and brought them down. Civilian aircraft has been taken down with this technology too when they've violated restricted airspace and the bodies and wreckage disposed of. Other black program craft have also been taken down with these weapons.
• Crash retrieval program: They know how to lure ET craft to show up. (This sounds like CE5 stuff to me.) They have recruited people into the program who have special abilities to attract ET craft to their location using consciousness. They will go to a location in the middle of nowhere with restricted airspace, and lure them out. When they show up, they sometimes shoot them down using the EMP weapons in order to recover and analyze the technology and bodies.
• Recruitment: They go to 3rd world countries as well as BIA (Bureau of Indian Affairs) and screen people for "psionic" abilities. (extrasensory perception, telepathy, psychokinesis, etc.) This is also referred to as simply "P3", or "P3 assets". Native Americans have a higher natural percentage of people with this genetic ability. There are other people who are more likely to have these traits, like left-handed women and children. These people are needed to interface with and control ET technology. In most cases, these people are given better living conditions, their children are taken care of and educated, they are provided food and shelter and security in exchange for their involvement in the program. (I suspect these people are kept in complete lockdown, maybe in an underground facility where they are completely cut off from the outside world. Just my speculation.) Most times, these people go willingly. They also recruit people for general maintenance of the facilities even when they do not have the special abilities. The people are kept comfortable, but are essentially enslaved. When they enter the program they are sedated, drugged, and "chipped" with a permanent, small tracking device. (Michael stumbled across one of these recruitment operations in 2009.)
• Death toll: The people with Psionic abilities are taught how to communicate with ET and interface with ET tech, but they are also given a lot of heavy drugs because you have to be in a very positive, calm, happy mental state in order to do it. After several years of this experimentation and drug use, a lot of these people die or slip into a coma. These people are essentially treated like biological equipment. Maintained and then "replaced" when "worn out". (My impression is this has been going on for decades, and the process has somewhat improved at this point.)
• Controlling ET Craft: In order to fly some of the ET craft, it has to be done through consciousness. So a Black Group pilot can't fly an ET craft directly if he doesn't have the psionic abilities. So they have devised a way to connect a psionic person to an advanced brain interface machine, where the pilot can control the machine to control the person's intentions, and in turn, control the ET craft. So it's something like this: Black Group Pilot > Advanced Machine > Psionic Person > ET Tech/Craft

I told you this was going to be crazy! The only reason I'm sharing this without proof is because I have reason to believe this person is who they say they are, and we are hearing corroboration from other people about first-hand witnesses coming forward and hints of these sorts of things taking place. I thought it would be constructive for the community to discuss the implications of this, or maybe if anyone knows similar stories being told elsewhere.

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It's at this point we can see why the cover-up is so tightly maintained.

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They go to 3rd world countries as well as BIA (Bureau of Indian Affairs) and screen people for "psionic" abilities. (extrasensory perception, telepathy, psychokinesis, etc.) This is also referred to as simply "P3", or "P3 assets". Native Americans have a higher natural percentage of people with this genetic ability. There are other people who are more likely to have these traits, like left-handed women and children. These people are needed to interface with and control ET technology. In most cases, these people are given better living conditions, their children are taken care of and educated, they are provided food and shelter and security in exchange for their involvement in the program. (I suspect these people are kept in complete lockdown, maybe in an underground facility where they are completely cut off from the outside world. Just my speculation.) Most times, these people go willingly. They also recruit people for general maintenance of the facilities even when they do not have the special abilities. The people are kept comfortable, but are essentially enslaved. When they enter the program they are sedated, drugged, and "chipped" with a permanent, small tracking device. (Michael stumbled across one of these recruitment operations in 2009.)

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Wasn't sure who this was until the bolded statement. He had an interesting interview about this "experience" on the Shawn Ryan Show a while back.

Much of his interviews fits with the 4chan Imgur I post periodically. And we definitely have pilots on record talking about something slamming into oceans.

https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN

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...and look, this is not a shot at you, TCTTS, or the general idea of aliens visiting Earth...I just think it's a very, very different discussion that gets derailed with nonsense like that.

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I almost made a 2nd post to wonder if that's where rich casino owners came from, but didn't want to derail too much

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Much of his interviews fits with the 4chan Imgur I post periodically. And we definitely have pilots on record talking about something slamming into oceans.

https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN

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You mean the one I posted first?

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I'm not sure if this link was posted on here. I know ufo's being built to spec by an undewater construction facility was at least mentioned in passing at some point. Anyways, I finally gave it a read and found it quite interesting.

4chan snapshat of the conversation - underwater construction facility

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tldr from reddit:

• UFOs are primarily unmanned drones
• UFOs are built to spec each time they are deployed
• UFOs are created by a mobile construction facility that hides in the ocean
• Construction facility destroys anything that comes close to it and will disappear for days when approached aggressively
• US believes the facility has been active on earth for at least 100 years or much longer (100 years would explain some of the early crashes, but 4000 years would explain some of the supernatural accounts from a long time ago)

There is much more information in the thread if anyone is interested.

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I do think it potentially provides some insight into why such matters might be kept confidential. If UFOs were simply arriving from other planets, it would be fascinating but might not present the same level of threat as the existence of an active base deploying UFOs for ongoing operations, with our apparent inability to intervene.

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To be fair, it looks like it was first posted byTKEAg04 on 8/1


I try not to give much credence to one story arc aligning with another, if you were to make something up, you would also want to ensure it aligned with what has been previously mentioned.

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Which is the biggest issue with some of these names all quoting each other and use each other as sources

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I would obviously take this all with a massive grain of salt, but current speculation is that this source could be one of the 30+ whistleblowers tied to Grusch. I'm leaning toward the side of bullsh*t, but thought it was an interesting read nonetheless...

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...and look, this is not a shot at you, TCTTS, or the general idea of aliens visiting Earth...I just think it's a very, very different discussion that gets derailed with nonsense like that.

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This is actually a very common rumor/talking point, even among the most "nuts and bolts" experts in the field.

Do you think an advanced alien race, possibly millions of years ahead of us, possibly even from another dimension, is going to use a steering wheel? A joystick? No, they're going to use their minds. Hell, we're well on our way there right now, with Elon announcing just yesterday that the first Nueralink has successfully been implanted in a human brain. Beyond that, we're already developing tech that doesn't even require an implant, where machines can simply scan our brainwaves, essentially read our thoughts, and react accordingly. Eventually, all we're going to have to do is think to accomplish any task.

As for our own "psionic abilities," one of the most renowned scientists in the world, Dr. Garry Nolen, was literally asked by our government to examine the brain "damage" of military personnel who claim to have come in contact with UFOs. This was a legit scientific study, backed by our own government, and what Nolen ultimately found was an "over-connection of neurons between the head of the caudate and the putamen" in a number of these individuals. Not only that, but many of their family members shared the same "over-connected" traits in their brains. So who's to say that some of these "higher functioning" individuals can't better connect, or better "speak" to some kind of reverse-engineered NHI tech that reads brainwaves in order to function? And considering this is likely an inherited trait, who's to say some lineages aren't stronger in this trait than others?

Couple all of that with more and more studies pointing to consciousness not being local (as in not produced by the brain, but rather something the brain receives) - and, in fact, being a fundamental "layer" of existence, one we all share and can tap into and various levels - and none of this is at all outside the realm of possibility, or even that far-fetched. You guys can laugh an mock all you want (the latter being all some people here are good for), but again, if the phenomenon is real, and disclosure ever happens, things are going to get very, very weird very very fast. As a human being in the 21st century with only five senses to interpret our level of reality, what you deem "nonsense" could become reality in the snap of a finger.

Now, again, do I buy that we're essentially snatching up some of these "higher functioning" individuals and putting them to work in top secret isolated encampments? Not necessarily. But the underlying science isn't some laughable fantasy.

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I've heard this accounts for some of the human trafficking involved with the various programs. This Hererra guy stumbled into this mess headfirst. Greer had hop scotched around this for years, then the former Marine happened which may have added some additional legitimacy to the idea.

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Yeah, I mean just because us "believers" don't call out stuff doesn't mean that we don't take things with a grain of salt or still have our reservations. Really it is just about compartmentalizing and following along.

Unfortunately, this thread has divided into two teams, those open to this and those hellbent against there being any truth to it. I find myself reluctant to post much negativity on the subject as to not feed the other team. I don't want this to turn into Spydy's newsletter, but I also don't want others to feel judged for posting some pretty out-there stuff as it should be a fun and "entertaining" thread.

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Yeah, based on the extreme opposition to this coming out via the Pentagon, intelligence community et. al. one does have to wonder. All over some weather balloons? Oh to be that fly on the wall.

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I would obviously take this all with a massive grain of salt, but current speculation is that this source could be one of the 30+ whistleblowers tied to Grusch. I'm leaning toward the side of bullsh*t, but thought it was an interesting read nonetheless...

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You think?

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The people with Psionic abilities are taught how to communicate with ET and interface with ET tech

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...and look, this is not a shot at you, TCTTS, or the general idea of aliens visiting Earth...I just think it's a very, very different discussion that gets derailed with nonsense like that.

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This is actually a very common rumor/talking point, even among the most "nuts and bolts" experts in the field.

Do you think an advanced alien race, possibly millions of years ahead of us, possibly even from another dimension, is going to use a steering wheel? A joystick? No, they're going to use their minds. Hell, we're well on our way there right now, with Elon announcing just yesterday that the first Nueralink has successfully been implanted in a human brain. Beyond that, we're already developing tech that doesn't even require an implant, where machines can simply scan our brainwaves, essentially read our thoughts, and react accordingly. Eventually, all we're going to have to do is think to accomplish any task.

As for our own "psionic abilities," one of the most renowned scientists in the world, Dr. Garry Nolen, was literally asked by our government to examine the brain "damage" of military personnel who claim to have come in contact with UFOs. This was a legit scientific study, backed by our own government, and what Nolen ultimately found was an "over-connection of neurons between the head of the caudate and the putamen" in a number of these individuals. Not only that, but many of their family members shared the same "over-connected" traits in their brains. So who's to say that some of these "higher functioning" individuals can't better connect, or better "speak" to some kind of reverse-engineered NHI tech that reads brainwaves in order to function? And considering this is likely an inherited trait, who's to say some lineages aren't stronger in this trait than others?

Couple all of that with more and more studies pointing to consciousness not being local (as in not produced by the brain, but rather something the brain receives) - and, in fact, being a fundamental "layer" of existence, one we all share and can tap into and various levels - and none of this is at all outside the realm of possibility, or even that far-fetched. You guys can laugh an mock all you want (the latter being all some people here are good for), but again, if the phenomenon is real, and disclosure ever happens, things are going to get very, very weird very very fast. As a human being in the 21st century with only five senses to interpret our level of reality, what you deem "nonsense" could become reality in the snap of a finger.

Now, again, do I buy that we're essentially snatching up some of these "higher functioning" individuals and putting them to work in top secret isolated encampments? Not necessarily. But the underlying science isn't some laughable fantasy.

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Well you've definitely given me some things to research, tonight.