Complaining about other posters doesn't sound like water off a ducks back to me…

I'm agreeing with him, dude. As in, "You're right, I'll shut up now." JFC.

Conclusion to the 2 posts above:

We are embodied spirits, which is empirically verified in medical settings every day as clinically dead people "return" to detail conversations and objects on the roof -

Therefore, at least one non-terrestrial reality of intelligent life exists.

I want to believe.

TCTTS said:

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I absolutely get that a certain level of doubt/skepticism/mockery comes with the territory. We're talking about aliens, after all. It just gets so incredibly old when not a single tweet or news item can be posted without either Joes going, "What?!!!!! How can you guys believe this stuff?!!!!!" for the umpteenth time, or Some Junkie Cosmonaut's endless, subtly insulting, looking-to-be-offended-politically remarks.

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You post obvious (to most) political propaganda, I laugh at it, then you (of all people) tell me that I'm looking to be offended?

I'm just pointing out that you literally keep falling for the Scoobie Doo ending.

"We'd know all about the aliens now if it wasn't for…*rips off mask*…MITCH MCCONNELL!!!"

"I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you kids and Chuck Schumer's courageous fight!"

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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TCTTS said:

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I absolutely get that a certain level of doubt/skepticism/mockery comes with the territory. We're talking about aliens, after all. It just gets so incredibly old when not a single tweet or news item can be posted without either Joes going, "What?!!!!! How can you guys believe this stuff?!!!!!" for the umpteenth time, or Some Junkie Cosmonaut's endless, subtly insulting, looking-to-be-offended-politically remarks.

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You post obvious (to most) political propaganda, I laugh at it, then you (of all people) tell me that I'm looking to be offended?

I'm just pointing out that you literally keep falling for the Scoobie Doo ending.

"We'd know all about the aliens now if it wasn't for…*rips off mask*…MITCH MCCONNELL!!!"

"I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you kids and Chuck Schumer's courageous fight!"

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I'm not "falling" for anything. I'm posting UPDATES and NEWS. Some of it I agree with, some of it I don't. Either way, there's not a single thing I post here that has any kind of a political agenda behind it on my part. If Schumer & co happen to blame four Republicans for attempting to block his legislation, I'm posting that because A) the act of him doing so is news in and of itself, and B) it was the tweet I happened to come across that provided the latest update. If there was someone blaming Democrats, and it updated us on whatever story, I'd post that too. Hell, I've posted countless news items here from all kids of Republican representatives, Tucker Carlson, etc as well, and yet you conveniently fail to acknowledge that I'm apparently "falling" for their "propaganda" too.

The truth is, the last thing I'm thinking about when posting/discussing any of this stuff is political sides/agendas. And again, just because I post it doesn't mean I endorse it. Yet you can't help but constantly point out how stupid we are for buying whatever these guys are selling, when no one is saying we're buying it in the first place. It's just a tweet. You don't have to turn every last one of them into performative political virtue signaling.

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TCTTS said:

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I absolutely get that a certain level of doubt/skepticism/mockery comes with the territory. We're talking about aliens, after all. It just gets so incredibly old when not a single tweet or news item can be posted without either Joes going, "What?!!!!! How can you guys believe this stuff?!!!!!" for the umpteenth time, or Some Junkie Cosmonaut's endless, subtly insulting, looking-to-be-offended-politically remarks.

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You post obvious (to most) political propaganda, I laugh at it, then you (of all people) tell me that I'm looking to be offended?

I'm just pointing out that you literally keep falling for the Scoobie Doo ending.

"We'd know all about the aliens now if it wasn't for…*rips off mask*…MITCH MCCONNELL!!!"

"I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you kids and Chuck Schumer's courageous fight!"

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I'm still not entirely sure what you're implying or laughing at. Since 2017 and the NY Times article by Blumenthal and Kean, the actions and statements of government officials, military officers, elected representatives, defense industry lobbyists, and whistleblowers under oath indicate without any doubt that there is a phenomenon here. If you want to be skeptical that the UAP pilots are lizard men from Zeta Reticuli or time traveling humans who have harnessed "free energy"YES, I'm right there beside you. OTOH, there is clearly a strong belief among all of the groups mentioned above that UAPs are real and a potential threat to the safety of this (and other) nations. Making Scooby Do references was appropriate 6 years ago. It's a different story now.

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He can't help but get his panties in a bunch any time anyone even remotely speaks ill of Republicans (or religion), even when it's clearly not at all the intent of sharing any given news item. Yet when anyone expresses frustration with him knocking those who believe in this stuff, all he does is laugh or reply with condescension. For whatever reason, he gets off on playing the contrarian, and brings nothing to the discussion other than eye rolls and mockery. You would think he'd have better things to do with his time, but apparently not.

Everyone please read Encounters by Pasulka.

UFOs are indisputably real - we have the videos! And military pilots testifying under oath about objects breaking the known laws of gravity. (Aliens are a different question, though I believe.)

Let's not pretend like this is nonsense.

G Martin 87 said:

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TCTTS said:

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I absolutely get that a certain level of doubt/skepticism/mockery comes with the territory. We're talking about aliens, after all. It just gets so incredibly old when not a single tweet or news item can be posted without either Joes going, "What?!!!!! How can you guys believe this stuff?!!!!!" for the umpteenth time, or Some Junkie Cosmonaut's endless, subtly insulting, looking-to-be-offended-politically remarks.

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You post obvious (to most) political propaganda, I laugh at it, then you (of all people) tell me that I'm looking to be offended?

I'm just pointing out that you literally keep falling for the Scoobie Doo ending.

"We'd know all about the aliens now if it wasn't for…*rips off mask*…MITCH MCCONNELL!!!"

"I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you kids and Chuck Schumer's courageous fight!"

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I'm still not entirely sure what you're implying or laughing at. Since 2017 and the NY Times article by Blumenthal and Kean, the actions and statements of government officials, military officers, elected representatives, defense industry lobbyists, and whistleblowers under oath indicate without any doubt that there is a phenomenon here. If you want to be skeptical that the UAP pilots are lizard men from Zeta Reticuli or time traveling humans who have harnessed "free energy"YES, I'm right there beside you. OTOH, there is clearly a strong belief among all of the groups mentioned above that UAPs are real and a potential threat to the safety of this (and other) nations. Making Scooby Do references was appropriate 6 years ago. It's a different story now.

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How so? Different (and more "important") people are talking about it now but to this point, 6 years later, it still remains…talk.

To be clear, i was talking about the govt. If the governments lips are moving, you're hearing a lie.

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To be clear, i was talking about the govt. If the governments lips are moving, you're hearing a lie.

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Oh, I thought you were more of a resident skeptic than that. So, if you aren't buying what they say about Roswell, what are your thoughts? Also, do you mean they are lying when saying "nothing to see here" or when they are saying the uap thing is real and we need to investigate it?

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Sea Speed said:

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To be clear, i was talking about the govt. If the governments lips are moving, you're hearing a lie.

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Oh, I thought you were more of a resident skeptic than that. So, if you aren't buying what they say about Roswell, what are your thoughts? Also, do you mean they are lying when saying "nothing to see here" or when they are saying the uap thing is real and we need to investigate it?

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Exactly the problem. For decades, the official stance was that there's nothing to investigate, it's all just swamp gas. Whether that was the truth or a lie, why has the official stance done a 180 now? They've stopped claiming that it's just swamp gas. Now the House and Senate are seriously debating whether to exercise eminent domain over crashed UAP debris allegedly held by private defense companies like Lockheed, in addition to subpoena powers to compel witnesses and establish Congressional oversight. Whether it's a lie or the truth, that's a stunning turn.

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I find it funny that those tweets and sources or whatever, keep blaming this cabal of all-powerful republicans for foiling disclosure. The same idiots who can't get literally anything done with a majority are suddenly the gatekeepers to the most powerful secret the world has ever known.

A better question is why do you get so defensive when I laugh at some of the political angles. It literally has nothing to do with you.

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It's not just Schumer-led BS/hysteria. Even Republicans are saying that a group of Republicans are attempting to block the legislation. I don't get why that's so trivial or unbelievable to you, especially when it's being widely reported, by both sides. Now, sure, those Republicans' reasons for attempting to block the legislation could be different than what Schumer and a journalist or two are claiming, but again, that's up for debate, and the opposite is nothing anyone here is promoting or "falling" for.

Also, it doesn't take an "all-powerful cabal" to keep certain bill provisions from passing, nor would doing so make this a group of "gatekeepers." The two sides are simply haggling over language. The Senate voted and approved their version of the bill. Then the House voted and approved their version of the bill. Now that each version has passed, the Senate and the House - as they do every single year - have begun a formal negotiation process between the two versions. Like, this is extremely basic government sh*t, and again, standard, end-of-year procedure. Arguing over what gets left in and out of any bill happens all the time, and the lawmakers who manage to keep certain things out of certain bills are never labeled as "all-powerful cabals." So why are you suddenly doing so in this instance?

FInally, to answer your "better question": because it's endlessly annoying. Because you seemingly can't post in this thread without whining about politics or using snark to belittle. Again, it just gets old knowing that half of what I post here is inevitably going to be met with mockery by Some Cosmonaut Junkie, even if it's not directed at me, specifically. Why is that so hard for you to understand?

Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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TCTTS said:

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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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TCTTS said:

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I absolutely get that a certain level of doubt/skepticism/mockery comes with the territory. We're talking about aliens, after all. It just gets so incredibly old when not a single tweet or news item can be posted without either Joes going, "What?!!!!! How can you guys believe this stuff?!!!!!" for the umpteenth time, or Some Junkie Cosmonaut's endless, subtly insulting, looking-to-be-offended-politically remarks.

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You post obvious (to most) political propaganda, I laugh at it, then you (of all people) tell me that I'm looking to be offended?

I'm just pointing out that you literally keep falling for the Scoobie Doo ending.

"We'd know all about the aliens now if it wasn't for…*rips off mask*…MITCH MCCONNELL!!!"

"I would have gotten away with it too if it weren't for you kids and Chuck Schumer's courageous fight!"

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I'm not "falling" for anything. I'm posting UPDATES and NEWS. Some of it I agree with, some of it I don't. Either way, there's not a single thing I post here that has any kind of a political agenda behind it on my part. If Schumer & co happen to blame four Republicans for attempting to block his legislation, I'm posting that because A) the act of him doing so is news in and of itself, and B) it was the tweet I happened to come across that provided the latest update. If there was someone blaming Democrats, and it updated us on whatever story, I'd post that too. Hell, I've posted countless news items here from all kids of Republican representatives, Tucker Carlson, etc as well, and yet you conveniently fail to acknowledge that I'm apparently "falling" for their "propaganda" too.

The truth is, the last thing I'm thinking about when posting/discussing any of this stuff is political sides/agendas. And again, just because I post it doesn't mean I endorse it. Yet you can't help but constantly point out how stupid we are for buying whatever these guys are selling, when no one is saying we're buying it in the first place. It's just a tweet. You don't have to turn every last one of them into performative political virtue signaling.

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Again, people commenting (literally the only point in having a message board) on tweets you posted aren't personal attacks against TCTTS the person. It is simply people commenting on the content of the tweet. Sometimes that is snarky or sarcastic. That is not aimed at TCTTS the poster.

You typing the bolded above with a straight face after writing novel after freaking novel is hilarious.

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Never once did I say you were "attacking" me, but please, continue to put words in my mouth. Again, all I said was that your posting habits are annoying, and that your endless snark adds nothing to the conversation. That's it and that's all.

G Martin 87 said:

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Mr President Elect said:

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Sea Speed said:

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To be clear, i was talking about the govt. If the governments lips are moving, you're hearing a lie.

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Oh, I thought you were more of a resident skeptic than that. So, if you aren't buying what they say about Roswell, what are your thoughts? Also, do you mean they are lying when saying "nothing to see here" or when they are saying the uap thing is real and we need to investigate it?

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Exactly the problem. For decades, the official stance was that there's nothing to investigate, it's all just swamp gas. Whether that was the truth or a lie, why has the official stance done a 180 now? They've stopped claiming that it's just swamp gas. Now the House and Senate are seriously debating whether to exercise eminent domain over crashed UAP debris allegedly held by private defense companies like Lockheed, in addition to subpoena powers to compel witnesses and establish Congressional oversight. Whether it's a lie or the truth, that's a stunning turn.

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Again, all indications are that the sheer number of pilots, military officials, and government contractors who have come forward to report what they've seen (and even worked on), since the second half of the '10s, is what caused the Pentagon to eventually HAVE to change their tune. The number of voices became too great, and in turn, the number of officials hearing those voices rose as well, and now here we are. The Pentagon simply couldn't continue to ignore/gaslight, the House and the Senate heard from too many credible individuals, and now everyone is simply trying to get a handle on it all.

Most of DC is for sale. An even larger portion is sensitive to being told, "this is a matter of national security. If you love your country you have to treat this info as Top Secret." These two facts will preclude the government from ever disclosing the full truth. Even if someone in the know goes rogue and tries to disclose, they will quickly be marginalized as a kook and otherwise "discouraged."

If there is a disclosure coming, it won't be from the U.S. government.

Pretty much my exact stance on the issue.

Michael Shellenberger on UFO whistleblowers and his upcoming piece on crash retrievals.

“It’s not the property of the U.S. government, it’s not the property of Lockheed Martin, or of Aerospace Corporation…

We the People have a right to know.”#ufox #ufotwitter #ufo #uap pic.twitter.com/f4eSlQrsro

— UAP James (@UAPJames) December 6, 2023

The UAPDA has been changed to: Subtitle C - Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena There are no definitions (non-human intelligence, technologies of unknown origin, etc.), there is no civilian review board, there is no eminent domain. Congress added oversight responsibilities and… https://t.co/0T9TJg2WMH

— UAP Caucus (@uapcaucus) December 7, 2023

FY 2024 NDAA Conference Report is out. Here are the UAP Disclosure Act outcomes…

“The agreement does not include the provisions that would establish an independent Review Board, a Review Board staff, eminent domain authority, or a controlled disclosure process.”

“The…

— Brad Crispin (@bradcrispin) December 7, 2023

The amendment was essentially gutted. #ufo #ufos #ufotwitter #uaptwitter#fafo pic.twitter.com/lVHrrAScUu

— UAPMax.com (@UFOS_UAPS) December 7, 2023

2024 #NDAA is out. (https://t.co/iseMFgsXzN)
Here is what we got:

😀 Sec 1005 - Requires the DOD to get a clean audit by 2028.

😀 Sec. 1687 - Gillibrand Amendment - prohibits funds from being used on any UAP programs unless disclosed to Congressional leadership and Intel and…

— Curious Explorer (@CuriousNHI) December 7, 2023

Sadly, an important portion of the original language from the IAA is stripped from this NDAA.

None of the stuff about access to materials, etc. made it in.

See the original wording here:https://t.co/C5v5lMuCMk#EndUAPSecrecy #ufotwitter #ufoX #uapX

— Nick Gold (@DeclassifyUAP) December 7, 2023

TCTTS said:

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Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:

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I find it funny that those tweets and sources or whatever, keep blaming this cabal of all-powerful republicans for foiling disclosure. The same idiots who can't get literally anything done with a majority are suddenly the gatekeepers to the most powerful secret the world has ever known.

A better question is why do you get so defensive when I laugh at some of the political angles. It literally has nothing to do with you.

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It's not just Schumer-led BS/hysteria. Even Republicans are saying that a group of Republicans are attempting to block the legislation. I don't get why that's so trivial or unbelievable to you, especially when it's being widely reported, by both sides. Now, sure, those Republicans' reasons for attempting to block the legislation could be different than what Schumer and a journalist or two are claiming, but again, that's up for debate, and the opposite is nothing anyone here is promoting or "falling" for.

Also, it doesn't take an "all-powerful cabal" to keep certain bill provisions from passing, nor would doing do make this a group of "gatekeepers." The two sides are simply haggling over language. The Senate voted and approved the their version of the bill. Then the House voted and approved their version of the bill. Now that each version has passed, the two chambers - as they do every single year - have begun a formal negotiation process between the two versions. Like, this is extremely basic government sh*t, and again, standard, end-of-year procedure. Arguing over what gets left in and out of any bill happens all the time, and the lawmakers who manage to keep certain things out of certain bills are never labeled as "all-powerful cabals." So why are you suddenly doing so in this instance?

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Has this poster read his own posts in this thread?

If there was ever a moment to embolden potential UFO whistleblowers, watching the Schumer/Rounds legislation get gutted while the vast majority of Congress wanted it passed unscathed should do it.

The justification for them to publicly testify has intensified.

— Post Disclosure World (@PostDisclosure) December 7, 2023

and to the newly red-pilled Feds monitoring my excellent memes across a few platforms …..

disclosure now, so my posting can be concentrated on the actual aliens and not BS