TCTTS said:

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TCTTS said:

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Obviously, it goes without saying that this is almost assuredly fake.

But if so, in the spirit of "entertainment," it's an incredible fake, and if anything, it's one of the crazier "what ifs" / Reddit rabbit holes to go down.

I recently watched the Netflix docu-series MH370: The Plane That Disappeared (which is incredibly well done, and doesn't at all dabble in the paranormal), and all I know is that no one really knows where the hell that plane went or how it went down.

A thread…

[Unverified] Dive into a perplexing video from March 2014 that explores the mysterious MH370 disappearance through thermal (drone) and satellite perspectives. Witness three unidentified objects forming an enigmatic spiral around the aircraft, seemingly generating a magnetic… pic.twitter.com/0DKadlupOL

— Seph (@Jehoseph) August 7, 2023

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I've been following this whole thing relatively closely the past few days and the consensus seems to be, rather convincingly, that this at least isn't CGI. The level of knowledge required to fake the satellite view (considering its location and readout at the bottom of the frame, along with a number of other details), and the minuscule level of detail required to fake the visuals of both the satellite and thermal angles, is almost too great. The hot/cold signatures, the physics of the orbs, the reflection of the surrounding clouds when the flash occurs, along with the way they're slightly disturbed - people have been analyzing it all to death, frame-by-frame for days, and it's all damn near perfect.

That of course doesn't automatically mean we're looking at MH370, but man, I've never seen reddit and the like stumped like this before, nor have I seen this amount of people slowly but surely become increasingly convinced by data/footage like this. It's almost always the opposite. This whole thing is really starting to blow up on social media too.

Who knows what the truth is, but the fact that this footage has yet to be concretely debunked (and people are trying like crazy) certainly has my interest piqued...

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Sea Speed said:

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TCTTS said:

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TCTTS said:

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Obviously, it goes without saying that this is almost assuredly fake.

But if so, in the spirit of "entertainment," it's an incredible fake, and if anything, it's one of the crazier "what ifs" / Reddit rabbit holes to go down.

I recently watched the Netflix docu-series MH370: The Plane That Disappeared (which is incredibly well done, and doesn't at all dabble in the paranormal), and all I know is that no one really knows where the hell that plane went or how it went down.

A thread…

[Unverified] Dive into a perplexing video from March 2014 that explores the mysterious MH370 disappearance through thermal (drone) and satellite perspectives. Witness three unidentified objects forming an enigmatic spiral around the aircraft, seemingly generating a magnetic… pic.twitter.com/0DKadlupOL

— Seph (@Jehoseph) August 7, 2023

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I've been following this whole thing relatively closely the past few days and the consensus seems to be, rather convincingly, that this at least isn't CGI. The level of knowledge required to fake the satellite view (considering its location and readout at the bottom of the frame, along with a number of other details), and the minuscule level of detail required to fake the visuals of both the satellite and thermal angles, is almost too great. The hot/cold signatures, the physics of the orbs, the reflection of the surrounding clouds when the flash occurs, along with the way they're slightly disturbed - people have been analyzing it all to death, frame-by-frame for days, and it's all damn near perfect.

That of course doesn't automatically mean we're looking at MH370, but man, I've never seen reddit and the like stumped like this before, nor have I seen this amount of people slowly but surely become increasingly convinced by data/footage like this. It's almost always the opposite. This whole thing is really starting to blow up on social media too.

Who knows what the truth is, but the fact that this footage has yet to be concretely debunked (and people are trying like crazy) certainly has my interest piqued...

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Again, where was this video reported to have come from? The beginning of it is right through the jet wash of the plane. I dont get where they are saying this was supposed to be from and how that isn't the easiest way to debunk it

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Sea Speed said:

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I think the vast vast majority of new users are all on premium

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Sea Speed said:

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Does he say whose drone and how it came to be released?

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TKEAg04 said:

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Sea Speed said:

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TCTTS said:

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TCTTS said:

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Obviously, it goes without saying that this is almost assuredly fake.

But if so, in the spirit of "entertainment," it's an incredible fake, and if anything, it's one of the crazier "what ifs" / Reddit rabbit holes to go down.

I recently watched the Netflix docu-series MH370: The Plane That Disappeared (which is incredibly well done, and doesn't at all dabble in the paranormal), and all I know is that no one really knows where the hell that plane went or how it went down.

A thread…

[Unverified] Dive into a perplexing video from March 2014 that explores the mysterious MH370 disappearance through thermal (drone) and satellite perspectives. Witness three unidentified objects forming an enigmatic spiral around the aircraft, seemingly generating a magnetic… pic.twitter.com/0DKadlupOL

— Seph (@Jehoseph) August 7, 2023

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I've been following this whole thing relatively closely the past few days and the consensus seems to be, rather convincingly, that this at least isn't CGI. The level of knowledge required to fake the satellite view (considering its location and readout at the bottom of the frame, along with a number of other details), and the minuscule level of detail required to fake the visuals of both the satellite and thermal angles, is almost too great. The hot/cold signatures, the physics of the orbs, the reflection of the surrounding clouds when the flash occurs, along with the way they're slightly disturbed - people have been analyzing it all to death, frame-by-frame for days, and it's all damn near perfect.

That of course doesn't automatically mean we're looking at MH370, but man, I've never seen reddit and the like stumped like this before, nor have I seen this amount of people slowly but surely become increasingly convinced by data/footage like this. It's almost always the opposite. This whole thing is really starting to blow up on social media too.

Who knows what the truth is, but the fact that this footage has yet to be concretely debunked (and people are trying like crazy) certainly has my interest piqued...

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Again, where was this video reported to have come from? The beginning of it is right through the jet wash of the plane. I dont get where they are saying this was supposed to be from and how that isn't the easiest way to debunk it

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There has been an incredible amount of effort into debunking this on Reddit. They have taken the approach that it's a hoax and trying to poke holes in it. The amount of technical debunking work that has gone into this is mind boggling. It's either the best hoax ever produced, or it's the real deal. That's pretty much the consensus at this point.

Edit - It's the supposed MH370 Malaysian Air 777-200ER that disappeared in 2014. Read into the threads if you want the full backstory on r/UFOs on Reddit.

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Joes said:

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Aztec1948 said:

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Joes said:

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Aztec1948 said:

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Joes said:

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Aztec1948 said:

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Such a sweet-heart. If she only knew...

Perhaps at some point she will.

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Well, you have to admit it's unfair to expect Senator Gillebrand and the other commoners to be all-knowing like those few of you who have the power to remote view implanted computer chips in Napoleon's head. That's a power most of us could never have. Be patient with us.

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itsmeRitaC
1h

This Gilibrand video is worse than i would have expected. Even her tone. It is what i had figured for the past three years, so no surprises. It is drones from our usual enemies including Iran. There ya go folks. And she doesn't seem too involved with the issue and she is a big AARO cheese. LOL
Anyone in congress could have said the same thing if they watched the hearings. I guess Kirkpatrick is the go to with the know how.



I know Joe...I've been in your shoes. Wonder how/why she was chosen though... I could take a guess.

From what I gather, everybody is psychic to one degree or another. The Army screened guys who somehow had an innate ability to avoid landmines in Viet Nam and subsequently volunteered for the rv program. Pat Price was one of those.

Here is a video involving a couple of guy who unlike David Grusch, did have physical contact with the reality. Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker:

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Her audience there politely listened to her until she mentioned the alien ships and bodies and there was an awkward grin from her and obvious laughter from her audience. I still don't know what else the UFO faithful expect. And that's someone who is said to be on your side. That's why I'm shocked at the continued insistence that official disclosure is imminent. Or ever coming at all.

Here's what's got to give if this is to go anywhere, you guys have got to understand more clearly that it doesn't help to try to counter that laughter by arguing that you've spent 50 years researching this, watching every video and reading every book on the topic, and that they'd understand the reality if they would too.

Something like the presence of aliens on this planet should not require digging in the weeds for a lifetime to find. If you want to convince the mainstream then there has to be absolute proof and it has to be obvious. And nothing will change until then. And saying things like "We do have proof, go listen to Greer..." just makes it clear how far removed your collective thinking is from the mainstream.

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Yes, the giggle factor is firmly entrenched. Her planting was not an accident.

"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense." Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.

Slowly, it is slowly eroding away. As will the "little green men" mantra.

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I think you should consider that there are lots of people who are just genuinely dismissive for their own reasons and are not necessarily part of a plot. She's definitely on the more receptive side of the scale after all.

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Aztec1948 said:

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Joes said:

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Aztec1948 said:

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Joes said:

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Aztec1948 said:

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Joes said:

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Aztec1948 said:

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Such a sweet-heart. If she only knew...

Perhaps at some point she will.

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Well, you have to admit it's unfair to expect Senator Gillebrand and the other commoners to be all-knowing like those few of you who have the power to remote view implanted computer chips in Napoleon's head. That's a power most of us could never have. Be patient with us.

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itsmeRitaC
1h

This Gilibrand video is worse than i would have expected. Even her tone. It is what i had figured for the past three years, so no surprises. It is drones from our usual enemies including Iran. There ya go folks. And she doesn't seem too involved with the issue and she is a big AARO cheese. LOL
Anyone in congress could have said the same thing if they watched the hearings. I guess Kirkpatrick is the go to with the know how.



I know Joe...I've been in your shoes. Wonder how/why she was chosen though... I could take a guess.

From what I gather, everybody is psychic to one degree or another. The Army screened guys who somehow had an innate ability to avoid landmines in Viet Nam and subsequently volunteered for the rv program. Pat Price was one of those.

Here is a video involving a couple of guy who unlike David Grusch, did have physical contact with the reality. Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker:

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Her audience there politely listened to her until she mentioned the alien ships and bodies and there was an awkward grin from her and obvious laughter from her audience. I still don't know what else the UFO faithful expect. And that's someone who is said to be on your side. That's why I'm shocked at the continued insistence that official disclosure is imminent. Or ever coming at all.

Here's what's got to give if this is to go anywhere, you guys have got to understand more clearly that it doesn't help to try to counter that laughter by arguing that you've spent 50 years researching this, watching every video and reading every book on the topic, and that they'd understand the reality if they would too.

Something like the presence of aliens on this planet should not require digging in the weeds for a lifetime to find. If you want to convince the mainstream then there has to be absolute proof and it has to be obvious. And nothing will change until then. And saying things like "We do have proof, go listen to Greer..." just makes it clear how far removed your collective thinking is from the mainstream.

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Yes, the giggle factor is firmly entrenched. Her planting was not an accident.

"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense." Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.

Slowly, it is slowly eroding away. As will the "little green men" mantra.

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I think you should consider that there are lots of people who are just genuinely dismissive for their own reasons and are not necessarily part of a plot. She's definitely on the more receptive side of the scale after all.

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Agreed and that's the disappointing thing regarding the most important item/news story ever.
Perhaps she will grow into the position as she becomes aware of the reality. Then...the giggling stops. Or perhaps not.

wjcroft
6h

She is too wedded to "her creation" of AARO. That she does not even acknowledge the IC IG statements about Grusch, is evidence she is does not have her eyes open. Zero curiosity. A political airbag.
I don't believe Sen. Schumer would be so easily sidetracked. His amendment demands companies holding material to release it back to the government.

"A few insiders know the truth...and are studying the bodies that have been discovered." -Dr. Edgar Mitchell Apollo 14..the 6th NASA employee to walk on the Moon.

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redline248 said:

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I will do everyone a favor and debunk that thermal video for y'all.

A jet did not disappear into thin air. "Reddit" can do whatever they want with technical explanations. It did not happen.

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TKEAg04 said:

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redline248 said:

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I will do everyone a favor and debunk that thermal video for y'all.

A jet did not disappear into thin air. "Reddit" can do whatever they want with technical explanations. It did not happen.

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Seriously debunk it. Prove all the points within the big Reddit thread false. Take every technical point that's been made and prove it wrong.

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TKEAg04 said:

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TKEAg04 said:

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redline248 said:

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I will do everyone a favor and debunk that thermal video for y'all.

A jet did not disappear into thin air. "Reddit" can do whatever they want with technical explanations. It did not happen.

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Seriously debunk it. Prove all the points within the big Reddit thread false. Take every technical point that's been made and prove it wrong.

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And please don't come back and say you don't have time or it's not worth it. Read the damn thread and go through every point and prove it's not real.

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Joes said:

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Aztec1948 said:

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Joes said:

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Aztec1948 said:

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Joes said:

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Aztec1948 said:

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Joes said:

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Aztec1948 said:

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Such a sweet-heart. If she only knew...

Perhaps at some point she will.

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Well, you have to admit it's unfair to expect Senator Gillebrand and the other commoners to be all-knowing like those few of you who have the power to remote view implanted computer chips in Napoleon's head. That's a power most of us could never have. Be patient with us.

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itsmeRitaC
1h

This Gilibrand video is worse than i would have expected. Even her tone. It is what i had figured for the past three years, so no surprises. It is drones from our usual enemies including Iran. There ya go folks. And she doesn't seem too involved with the issue and she is a big AARO cheese. LOL
Anyone in congress could have said the same thing if they watched the hearings. I guess Kirkpatrick is the go to with the know how.



I know Joe...I've been in your shoes. Wonder how/why she was chosen though... I could take a guess.

From what I gather, everybody is psychic to one degree or another. The Army screened guys who somehow had an innate ability to avoid landmines in Viet Nam and subsequently volunteered for the rv program. Pat Price was one of those.

Here is a video involving a couple of guy who unlike David Grusch, did have physical contact with the reality. Charles Hickson and Calvin Parker:

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Her audience there politely listened to her until she mentioned the alien ships and bodies and there was an awkward grin from her and obvious laughter from her audience. I still don't know what else the UFO faithful expect. And that's someone who is said to be on your side. That's why I'm shocked at the continued insistence that official disclosure is imminent. Or ever coming at all.

Here's what's got to give if this is to go anywhere, you guys have got to understand more clearly that it doesn't help to try to counter that laughter by arguing that you've spent 50 years researching this, watching every video and reading every book on the topic, and that they'd understand the reality if they would too.

Something like the presence of aliens on this planet should not require digging in the weeds for a lifetime to find. If you want to convince the mainstream then there has to be absolute proof and it has to be obvious. And nothing will change until then. And saying things like "We do have proof, go listen to Greer..." just makes it clear how far removed your collective thinking is from the mainstream.

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Yes, the giggle factor is firmly entrenched. Her planting was not an accident.

"Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense." Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.

Slowly, it is slowly eroding away. As will the "little green men" mantra.

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I think you should consider that there are lots of people who are just genuinely dismissive for their own reasons and are not necessarily part of a plot. She's definitely on the more receptive side of the scale after all.

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Agreed and that's the disappointing thing regarding the most important item/news story ever.
Perhaps she will grow into the position as she becomes aware of the reality. Then...the giggling stops. Or perhaps not.

wjcroft
6h

She is too wedded to "her creation" of AARO. That she does not even acknowledge the IC IG statements about Grusch, is evidence she is does not have her eyes open. Zero curiosity. A political airbag.
I don't believe Sen. Schumer would be so easily sidetracked. His amendment demands companies holding material to release it back to the government.

"A few insiders know the truth...and are studying the bodies that have been discovered." -Dr. Edgar Mitchell Apollo 14..the 6th NASA employee to walk on the Moon.

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Burchett seems to be the most aggressive, I'll be curious how long before we hear from him again on this.

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Sea Speed said:

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TKEAg04 said:

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TKEAg04 said:

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TKEAg04 said:

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redline248 said:

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I will do everyone a favor and debunk that thermal video for y'all.

A jet did not disappear into thin air. "Reddit" can do whatever they want with technical explanations. It did not happen.

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Seriously debunk it. Prove all the points within the big Reddit thread false. Take every technical point that's been made and prove it wrong.

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And please don't come back and say you don't have time or it's not worth it. Read the damn thread and go through every point and prove it's not real.

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I will eat a massive, 10lb blackened to a crisp crow if you can debunk this. Technically debunk it. Prove every point wrong made.

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Given the content and implications,, I think the burden of proof on this lies ENTIRELY on those claiming it is real or more likely real than not

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Sea Speed said:

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TKEAg04 said:

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TKEAg04 said:

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TKEAg04 said:

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redline248 said:

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I will do everyone a favor and debunk that thermal video for y'all.

A jet did not disappear into thin air. "Reddit" can do whatever they want with technical explanations. It did not happen.

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Seriously debunk it. Prove all the points within the big Reddit thread false. Take every technical point that's been made and prove it wrong.

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And please don't come back and say you don't have time or it's not worth it. Read the damn thread and go through every point and prove it's not real.

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I will eat a massive, 10lb blackened to a crisp crow if you can debunk this. Technically debunk it. Prove every point wrong made.

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Given the content and implications,, I think the burden of proof on this lies ENTIRELY on those claiming it is real or more likely real than not

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BenTheGoodAg said:

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I think there are a lot of practical questions that don't make sense.
- Why was a drone flying in remote area at the same altitude as an airliner? It's practically flying through the wash of the aircraft.
- How was this video obtained/released? Just to note - Every version of the satellite video I've seen has a fly on it, so someone is filming a screen?
- Why released now?
- Why was a satellite camera looking in this remote area at this airliner?
- It looks like the satellite video is manually tracking the airliner, almost starting before the orb is visible. It just seems odd to not use a software that autotracks for satellite imagery. Someone observing this in real time with a satellite? And it seems odd that they are reacting as quickly as they are.
- It is very interesting how well coordinated the orbs are against the two videos, but one element seems different to me. In the thermal camera video, the roll of the aircraft seems pretty stable for the second half, but in the satellite imagery, the aircraft seems to level out significantly over this same stretch of video - you can basically only see the body of the aircraft, but a few seconds later, you clearly see the wings/top down view.

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Sea Speed said:

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Honestly, I dont want that it to be true anyways and you shouldn't either. It bodes terribly for humanity.

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Sea Speed said:

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TKEAg04 said:

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TKEAg04 said:

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TKEAg04 said:

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redline248 said:

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I will do everyone a favor and debunk that thermal video for y'all.

A jet did not disappear into thin air. "Reddit" can do whatever they want with technical explanations. It did not happen.

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Seriously debunk it. Prove all the points within the big Reddit thread false. Take every technical point that's been made and prove it wrong.

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And please don't come back and say you don't have time or it's not worth it. Read the damn thread and go through every point and prove it's not real.

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I will eat a massive, 10lb blackened to a crisp crow if you can debunk this. Technically debunk it. Prove every point wrong made.

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Given the content and implications,, I think the burden of proof on this lies ENTIRELY on those claiming it is real or more likely real than not

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TCTTS said:

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Also, am I the only one who, if real, sees this as a potential positive of sorts? It would mean there's at least the chance the passengers are still alive, and could eventually be returned to their loved ones. Who knows, maybe they haven't even aged.

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TCTTS said:

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TKEAg04 said:

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Sea Speed said:

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TCTTS said:

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TCTTS said:

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Obviously, it goes without saying that this is almost assuredly fake.

But if so, in the spirit of "entertainment," it's an incredible fake, and if anything, it's one of the crazier "what ifs" / Reddit rabbit holes to go down.

I recently watched the Netflix docu-series MH370: The Plane That Disappeared (which is incredibly well done, and doesn't at all dabble in the paranormal), and all I know is that no one really knows where the hell that plane went or how it went down.

A thread…

[Unverified] Dive into a perplexing video from March 2014 that explores the mysterious MH370 disappearance through thermal (drone) and satellite perspectives. Witness three unidentified objects forming an enigmatic spiral around the aircraft, seemingly generating a magnetic… pic.twitter.com/0DKadlupOL

— Seph (@Jehoseph) August 7, 2023

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I've been following this whole thing relatively closely the past few days and the consensus seems to be, rather convincingly, that this at least isn't CGI. The level of knowledge required to fake the satellite view (considering its location and readout at the bottom of the frame, along with a number of other details), and the minuscule level of detail required to fake the visuals of both the satellite and thermal angles, is almost too great. The hot/cold signatures, the physics of the orbs, the reflection of the surrounding clouds when the flash occurs, along with the way they're slightly disturbed - people have been analyzing it all to death, frame-by-frame for days, and it's all damn near perfect.

That of course doesn't automatically mean we're looking at MH370, but man, I've never seen reddit and the like stumped like this before, nor have I seen this amount of people slowly but surely become increasingly convinced by data/footage like this. It's almost always the opposite. This whole thing is really starting to blow up on social media too.

Who knows what the truth is, but the fact that this footage has yet to be concretely debunked (and people are trying like crazy) certainly has my interest piqued...

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Again, where was this video reported to have come from? The beginning of it is right through the jet wash of the plane. I dont get where they are saying this was supposed to be from and how that isn't the easiest way to debunk it

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There has been an incredible amount of effort into debunking this on Reddit. They have taken the approach that it's a hoax and trying to poke holes in it. The amount of technical debunking work that has gone into this is mind boggling. It's either the best hoax ever produced, or it's the real deal. That's pretty much the consensus at this point.

Edit - It's the supposed MH370 Malaysian Air 777-200ER that disappeared in 2014. Read into the threads if you want the full backstory on r/UFOs on Reddit.

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It really is one of the deepest debunking dives I've ever seen, insanely so, and yeah, people are coming away more and more convinced it's the real deal.

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