“It’s like…wow! I can’t think of any way to explain this, other than…I mean…this isn’t something in our inventory, I’m pretty sure.”
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Do you not see the wink? Of course I know you guys know he's a fraud, I thought you would laugh along with me at him, not take it as an attack. He's invoking The Jetsons for crap's sake, all I was pointing out was that even the guys who are taking this very seriously (you guys) have to realize a lot of these other popular guys are making a mockery of it all and not helping.Redstone said:
You don't recall myself and several others calling him a charlatan on this thread, and then detailing why?
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
Been thinking about this a lot lately. Yes, these are obviously two GIANT assumptions, but...
1) Assuming "the phenomenon" is real, and we have confirmation/disclosure within the next five-ish years of its existence on Earth...
2) Assuming we also achieve artificial general intelligence (AGI) within the next five-ish years, a timeframe many experts now seem to agree on...
... what are the chances, in the 300,000-ish year existence of Homo sapiens, that we see the greatest discovery in the history of our species (1) - AND - the greatest achievement in the history of our species (2) at basically the EXACT same time, both in the third decade of the 21st century?
That would have to be more than coincidence, right? I'm not explicitly saying either one would be responsible for the other, but man, one would have to think the two are related in some way, right?
Seeing as UFO sightings exploded right around the time we detonated the first atomic bomb, I wonder if our development of AGI gives off a similar ping, to whoever might be watching/listening, that we're about to achieve yet another world-changing milestone. Or maybe the former is a signal of sorts, and it's only a matter of time - say, 85-ish years - until a civilization who can split the atom achieves AGI. And perhaps our development of AGI is what spurs those listeners/watchers to finally need to intervene in some way? Crazy, I know, but just thinking out loud, as the movie idea part of my brain starts spinning.
Either way, what a time to be alive...
1) Assuming "the phenomenon" is real, and we have confirmation/disclosure within the next five-ish years of its existence on Earth...
2) Assuming we also achieve artificial general intelligence (AGI) within the next five-ish years, a timeframe many experts now seem to agree on...
... what are the chances, in the 300,000-ish year existence of Homo sapiens, that we see the greatest discovery in the history of our species (1) - AND - the greatest achievement in the history of our species (2) at basically the EXACT same time, both in the third decade of the 21st century?
That would have to be more than coincidence, right? I'm not explicitly saying either one would be responsible for the other, but man, one would have to think the two are related in some way, right?
Seeing as UFO sightings exploded right around the time we detonated the first atomic bomb, I wonder if our development of AGI gives off a similar ping, to whoever might be watching/listening, that we're about to achieve yet another world-changing milestone. Or maybe the former is a signal of sorts, and it's only a matter of time - say, 85-ish years - until a civilization who can split the atom achieves AGI. And perhaps our development of AGI is what spurs those listeners/watchers to finally need to intervene in some way? Crazy, I know, but just thinking out loud, as the movie idea part of my brain starts spinning.
Either way, what a time to be alive...
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Some good stuff from Coulthart in the clip below…
Weaponized Notes - 08/01/2023
— Joe Murgia (@TheUfoJoe) August 1, 2023
For the hearing, I had two more witnesses, both from Legacy programs, via Knapp and his relationships, who were at 50% yes or more, but it got whittled down to three.
~Corbell
Probably within 6 months to a year, I think everything Grusch said will… pic.twitter.com/P4qkObg9Nf
I'm hearing the et reality will be disclosed much sooner. There seems to be an urgency to get this done.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
From whom?Aztec1948 said:
I'm hearing the et reality will be disclosed much sooner. There seems to be an urgency to get this done.
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Joes said:From whom?Aztec1948 said:
I'm hearing the et reality will be disclosed much sooner. There seems to be an urgency to get this done.
Aztec1948 said:
I'm hearing the et reality will be disclosed much sooner. There seems to be an urgency to get this done.
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Joes said:From whom?Aztec1948 said:
I'm hearing the et reality will be disclosed much sooner. There seems to be an urgency to get this done.
Here is an article from Liberation Times that details a scientific report that we have been tracking these UAPs above 80000 feet. It also goes into detail how the UAPs dock with a large structure under the ocean.
https://www.liberationtimes.com/home/scientific-report-confirms-multiple-tic-tac-ufos-were-tracked-above-80000-feet-in-space-during-west-coast-2004-encounters
I'm not one to believe anybody in 4chan, but here is a very long q&a from someone supposedly dieing from liver cancer who has been very involved in UAPs details much of the same in regards to a large underwater ship of some kind.
Take this info at face value - true or a larp tbd…
https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN
Quote:
It also goes into detail how the UAPs dock with a large structure under the ocean
redline248 said:Quote:
It also goes into detail how the UAPs dock with a large structure under the ocean
Ehhh I'm just presenting what I see. Nothing more or less.
Anyone know what happened to this chick?
No one can find her.
Weird this is happening around the same time of all these congrsssional hearings
FYI video has NSFW language
No one can find her.
Weird this is happening around the same time of all these congrsssional hearings
FYI video has NSFW language
Some of those 4chan posts remind of of a LARP-ish article that was linked to on another forum...TKEAg04 said:
I'm not one to believe anybody in 4chan, but here is a very long q&a from someone supposedly dieing from liver cancer who has been very involved in UAPs details much of the same in regards to a large underwater ship of some kind.
Take this info at face value - true or a larp tbd…
https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN
https://uapmax.com/aliens-are-here-biden-met-them-they-are-not-friendly/
Some of the similarities...makes me wonder if both were written by the same person(s).
Quote:
In fact, we have lost pilots and ships to the Ganzi in a monumental fashion. I was shown, and you will see firsthand during the hearing, one particular episode of an f-15 fighter jet being disintegrated by a particle beam technology that did not blow the thing up, it stopped it dead and turned it to ash. No debris.
There was a beam, green in color, it hit the side of the plane, the beam separated into four went across the fuselage, and then disappeared. The result was a plane-shaped cloud of… ash. Nothing else. The incursion happened over the ocean in an undisclosed location.
Quote:
[ol]They are not friendly, but not necessarily malevolent aliens either. Unless of course, you get in their way. We know Earth is a waypoint for something bigger. We have NEVER gotten the answer to what that is. The Ganzi deal with us, because they are not here to colonize, and apparently have a directive to leave us alone, again, unless we mess with their goals. They create only technology that is used in our oceans, skies, and direct atmosphere that can be created from Earth's elements from technological methods we don't understand. They are able to manipulate matter in ways we cannot. This is big- The Earth itself is important to them, but humanity is not. Let me state that another way- we don't matter, only the Earth. If we are here or not, it does not matter. Though many scientists claim extreme environmental issues are harming the Earth, the Ganzi are able to fix anything we do, should they need something out of a particular resource or waypoint or something. We don't know. They do NOT like us playing with nuclear power in weaponized form. Take nuclear devastation off the table. Any attempt to use nukes will be met with a total and complete shutdown of human society. The Earth is important, the little bugs on the surface are not, and if we mess with what they are doing, we will cease to exist. We have been warned- More on that in a bit. We do not know what they are doing, but they've been doing it for a very long time. The reason they lose probes and even manned vehicles is that they are unable to use tech past a couple of hundred years of our possible technological timeline. Dead Ganzi don't matter. The theory is their consciousness is stored and the biological bodies don't matter. They can manipulate DNA, increase lifespan indefinitely, cure or prevent any disease and the beings themselves are able to transfer consciousness from one body to another. There is a supposition they can do this to humans. They have experimented on us, and we don't know why. There are theories that it might be in case they need humans for something. Galactic war, slaves? Supposition here. They will not hesitate to kill humans if it suits them. We are bugs. I've said that a few times, but let it sink in. You, me, we are INSIGNIFICANT and Earth is NOT OURS. The theory is that life is ALL AROUND YOU right now. These beings are able to manipulate higher dimensions and can be anywhere, at any time, in any place they want to be. They can stand next to you, right this second as you read this, and you'll never know unless they want you to. It's a theory humans have created called Multi-Dimensional Theory, but the way they operate is best thought to be through Brane Theory. (Honestly, I had never heard of it before two days ago. Heady stuff) They have NO desire to interact with humans. If we fell off the Earth, they'd be fine. (Seriously, at this point if I hear some idiot mention flat earth, I'm going to slap the stupid out of your mouth. Grow up.) If we just putter around like we are without messing things up, that's fine too. They are going to be here and if we play with anything that would cause global harm that would cause Earth to become unusable to the point of actual physical destruction of the surface, they won't hesitate to stop us. Without any care whatsoever. I do not think that the atmosphere matters to them, only the physical space the earth occupies and somehow nuclear destruction. This is why they have told the governments that should they attempt large-scale nuclear conflict, things will not go well. They have shared some information out of necessity. [/ol]
One thing is for certain, this whole topic sure does cause a lot of confusion for the religious vs non-religious and political left vs right. It's like everything is split down the middle in the weirdest ways, a complete cross section of the normal lines. In many cases it's causing left and right to find one issue they agree on (heck, that was about the most non-confrontational congressional hearing I've ever seen). But on the other hand it's hilarious to see each side blaming each other for completely contradictory reasons!
For example, I see lots of accusations from the left that this is all typical "gullible religious believer" and QAnon conspiracy anti-government stuff being promoted, while at the same time I also see a ton of sentiment from the left that it's the right that's concealing all this and preventing disclosure because they're afraid of it damaging religious belief and such, and/or that the right is the one blocking all this because the Pentagon and military (mostly championed by the right) in general is to blame. It's all kind of funny to see the new strange bedfellows being made along with splits within normally solid blocks of thought.
For example, I see lots of accusations from the left that this is all typical "gullible religious believer" and QAnon conspiracy anti-government stuff being promoted, while at the same time I also see a ton of sentiment from the left that it's the right that's concealing all this and preventing disclosure because they're afraid of it damaging religious belief and such, and/or that the right is the one blocking all this because the Pentagon and military (mostly championed by the right) in general is to blame. It's all kind of funny to see the new strange bedfellows being made along with splits within normally solid blocks of thought.
lunchbox said:Some of those 4chan posts remind of of a LARP-ish article that was linked to on another forum...TKEAg04 said:
I'm not one to believe anybody in 4chan, but here is a very long q&a from someone supposedly dieing from liver cancer who has been very involved in UAPs details much of the same in regards to a large underwater ship of some kind.
Take this info at face value - true or a larp tbd…
https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN
https://uapmax.com/aliens-are-here-biden-met-them-they-are-not-friendly/
Some of the similarities...makes me wonder if both were written by the same person(s).Quote:
In fact, we have lost pilots and ships to the Ganzi in a monumental fashion. I was shown, and you will see firsthand during the hearing, one particular episode of an f-15 fighter jet being disintegrated by a particle beam technology that did not blow the thing up, it stopped it dead and turned it to ash. No debris.
There was a beam, green in color, it hit the side of the plane, the beam separated into four went across the fuselage, and then disappeared. The result was a plane-shaped cloud of… ash. Nothing else. The incursion happened over the ocean in an undisclosed location.Quote:
[ol]They are not friendly, but not necessarily malevolent aliens either. Unless of course, you get in their way. We know Earth is a waypoint for something bigger. We have NEVER gotten the answer to what that is. The Ganzi deal with us, because they are not here to colonize, and apparently have a directive to leave us alone, again, unless we mess with their goals. They create only technology that is used in our oceans, skies, and direct atmosphere that can be created from Earth's elements from technological methods we don't understand. They are able to manipulate matter in ways we cannot. This is big- The Earth itself is important to them, but humanity is not. Let me state that another way- we don't matter, only the Earth. If we are here or not, it does not matter. Though many scientists claim extreme environmental issues are harming the Earth, the Ganzi are able to fix anything we do, should they need something out of a particular resource or waypoint or something. We don't know. They do NOT like us playing with nuclear power in weaponized form. Take nuclear devastation off the table. Any attempt to use nukes will be met with a total and complete shutdown of human society. The Earth is important, the little bugs on the surface are not, and if we mess with what they are doing, we will cease to exist. We have been warned- More on that in a bit. We do not know what they are doing, but they've been doing it for a very long time. The reason they lose probes and even manned vehicles is that they are unable to use tech past a couple of hundred years of our possible technological timeline. Dead Ganzi don't matter. The theory is their consciousness is stored and the biological bodies don't matter. They can manipulate DNA, increase lifespan indefinitely, cure or prevent any disease and the beings themselves are able to transfer consciousness from one body to another. There is a supposition they can do this to humans. They have experimented on us, and we don't know why. There are theories that it might be in case they need humans for something. Galactic war, slaves? Supposition here. They will not hesitate to kill humans if it suits them. We are bugs. I've said that a few times, but let it sink in. You, me, we are INSIGNIFICANT and Earth is NOT OURS. The theory is that life is ALL AROUND YOU right now. These beings are able to manipulate higher dimensions and can be anywhere, at any time, in any place they want to be. They can stand next to you, right this second as you read this, and you'll never know unless they want you to. It's a theory humans have created called Multi-Dimensional Theory, but the way they operate is best thought to be through Brane Theory. (Honestly, I had never heard of it before two days ago. Heady stuff) They have NO desire to interact with humans. If we fell off the Earth, they'd be fine. (Seriously, at this point if I hear some idiot mention flat earth, I'm going to slap the stupid out of your mouth. Grow up.) If we just putter around like we are without messing things up, that's fine too. They are going to be here and if we play with anything that would cause global harm that would cause Earth to become unusable to the point of actual physical destruction of the surface, they won't hesitate to stop us. Without any care whatsoever. I do not think that the atmosphere matters to them, only the physical space the earth occupies and somehow nuclear destruction. This is why they have told the governments that should they attempt large-scale nuclear conflict, things will not go well. They have shared some information out of necessity. [/ol]
There is a part 2 of that article. I'm not sure how to feel about it.
Crosspost to the OB. They'll find her.Ghost of Bisbee said:
Anyone know what happened to this chick?
No one can find her.
Weird this is happening around the same time of all these congrsssional hearings
FYI video has NSFW language
Yeah, there's a part 2 and a few follow-ups.Quote:
There is a part 2 of that article. I'm not sure how to feel about it.
I hadn't posted them here because I thought it was crap (still do)....but when I read the 4chan posts, there were a lot of similarities.
I remember reading that 4chan thread a few weeks ago. It struck me as a total LARP. Currently I'm reading Corso's book about Roswell, since it was specifically mentioned in the 1998 document linked earlier up above.lunchbox said:Yeah, there's a part 2 and a few follow-ups.Quote:
There is a part 2 of that article. I'm not sure how to feel about it.
I hadn't posted them here because I thought it was crap (still do)....but when I read the 4chan posts, there were a lot of similarities.
https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/114761/documents/HHRG-117-IG05-20220517-SD001.pdf
Not sure I buy anything in that document yet, but Corso's book has been very interesting so far.
TKEAg04 said:lunchbox said:Some of those 4chan posts remind of of a LARP-ish article that was linked to on another forum...TKEAg04 said:
I'm not one to believe anybody in 4chan, but here is a very long q&a from someone supposedly dieing from liver cancer who has been very involved in UAPs details much of the same in regards to a large underwater ship of some kind.
Take this info at face value - true or a larp tbd…
https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN
https://uapmax.com/aliens-are-here-biden-met-them-they-are-not-friendly/
Some of the similarities...makes me wonder if both were written by the same person(s).Quote:
In fact, we have lost pilots and ships to the Ganzi in a monumental fashion. I was shown, and you will see firsthand during the hearing, one particular episode of an f-15 fighter jet being disintegrated by a particle beam technology that did not blow the thing up, it stopped it dead and turned it to ash. No debris.
There was a beam, green in color, it hit the side of the plane, the beam separated into four went across the fuselage, and then disappeared. The result was a plane-shaped cloud of… ash. Nothing else. The incursion happened over the ocean in an undisclosed location.Quote:
[ol]They are not friendly, but not necessarily malevolent aliens either. Unless of course, you get in their way. We know Earth is a waypoint for something bigger. We have NEVER gotten the answer to what that is. The Ganzi deal with us, because they are not here to colonize, and apparently have a directive to leave us alone, again, unless we mess with their goals. They create only technology that is used in our oceans, skies, and direct atmosphere that can be created from Earth's elements from technological methods we don't understand. They are able to manipulate matter in ways we cannot. This is big- The Earth itself is important to them, but humanity is not. Let me state that another way- we don't matter, only the Earth. If we are here or not, it does not matter. Though many scientists claim extreme environmental issues are harming the Earth, the Ganzi are able to fix anything we do, should they need something out of a particular resource or waypoint or something. We don't know. They do NOT like us playing with nuclear power in weaponized form. Take nuclear devastation off the table. Any attempt to use nukes will be met with a total and complete shutdown of human society. The Earth is important, the little bugs on the surface are not, and if we mess with what they are doing, we will cease to exist. We have been warned- More on that in a bit. We do not know what they are doing, but they've been doing it for a very long time. The reason they lose probes and even manned vehicles is that they are unable to use tech past a couple of hundred years of our possible technological timeline. Dead Ganzi don't matter. The theory is their consciousness is stored and the biological bodies don't matter. They can manipulate DNA, increase lifespan indefinitely, cure or prevent any disease and the beings themselves are able to transfer consciousness from one body to another. There is a supposition they can do this to humans. They have experimented on us, and we don't know why. There are theories that it might be in case they need humans for something. Galactic war, slaves? Supposition here. They will not hesitate to kill humans if it suits them. We are bugs. I've said that a few times, but let it sink in. You, me, we are INSIGNIFICANT and Earth is NOT OURS. The theory is that life is ALL AROUND YOU right now. These beings are able to manipulate higher dimensions and can be anywhere, at any time, in any place they want to be. They can stand next to you, right this second as you read this, and you'll never know unless they want you to. It's a theory humans have created called Multi-Dimensional Theory, but the way they operate is best thought to be through Brane Theory. (Honestly, I had never heard of it before two days ago. Heady stuff) They have NO desire to interact with humans. If we fell off the Earth, they'd be fine. (Seriously, at this point if I hear some idiot mention flat earth, I'm going to slap the stupid out of your mouth. Grow up.) If we just putter around like we are without messing things up, that's fine too. They are going to be here and if we play with anything that would cause global harm that would cause Earth to become unusable to the point of actual physical destruction of the surface, they won't hesitate to stop us. Without any care whatsoever. I do not think that the atmosphere matters to them, only the physical space the earth occupies and somehow nuclear destruction. This is why they have told the governments that should they attempt large-scale nuclear conflict, things will not go well. They have shared some information out of necessity. [/ol]
There is a part 2 of that article. I'm not sure how to feel about it.
Hmmm...
"As I conclude this article, the thoughts you are having, are the thoughts I had. How do I prove this? Two weeks. You'll know, so long as this Congressional hearing occurs, everything I have said here will be revealed on the world stage in color, in documents, and on video."
Who was his source? This guy?
Biden met the aliens??lunchbox said:Some of those 4chan posts remind of of a LARP-ish article that was linked to on another forum...TKEAg04 said:
I'm not one to believe anybody in 4chan, but here is a very long q&a from someone supposedly dieing from liver cancer who has been very involved in UAPs details much of the same in regards to a large underwater ship of some kind.
Take this info at face value - true or a larp tbd…
https://imgur.com/a/NXjWQaN
https://uapmax.com/aliens-are-here-biden-met-them-they-are-not-friendly/
Some of the similarities...makes me wonder if both were written by the same person(s).Quote:
In fact, we have lost pilots and ships to the Ganzi in a monumental fashion. I was shown, and you will see firsthand during the hearing, one particular episode of an f-15 fighter jet being disintegrated by a particle beam technology that did not blow the thing up, it stopped it dead and turned it to ash. No debris.
There was a beam, green in color, it hit the side of the plane, the beam separated into four went across the fuselage, and then disappeared. The result was a plane-shaped cloud of… ash. Nothing else. The incursion happened over the ocean in an undisclosed location.Quote:
[ol]They are not friendly, but not necessarily malevolent aliens either. Unless of course, you get in their way. We know Earth is a waypoint for something bigger. We have NEVER gotten the answer to what that is. The Ganzi deal with us, because they are not here to colonize, and apparently have a directive to leave us alone, again, unless we mess with their goals. They create only technology that is used in our oceans, skies, and direct atmosphere that can be created from Earth's elements from technological methods we don't understand. They are able to manipulate matter in ways we cannot. This is big- The Earth itself is important to them, but humanity is not. Let me state that another way- we don't matter, only the Earth. If we are here or not, it does not matter. Though many scientists claim extreme environmental issues are harming the Earth, the Ganzi are able to fix anything we do, should they need something out of a particular resource or waypoint or something. We don't know. They do NOT like us playing with nuclear power in weaponized form. Take nuclear devastation off the table. Any attempt to use nukes will be met with a total and complete shutdown of human society. The Earth is important, the little bugs on the surface are not, and if we mess with what they are doing, we will cease to exist. We have been warned- More on that in a bit. We do not know what they are doing, but they've been doing it for a very long time. The reason they lose probes and even manned vehicles is that they are unable to use tech past a couple of hundred years of our possible technological timeline. Dead Ganzi don't matter. The theory is their consciousness is stored and the biological bodies don't matter. They can manipulate DNA, increase lifespan indefinitely, cure or prevent any disease and the beings themselves are able to transfer consciousness from one body to another. There is a supposition they can do this to humans. They have experimented on us, and we don't know why. There are theories that it might be in case they need humans for something. Galactic war, slaves? Supposition here. They will not hesitate to kill humans if it suits them. We are bugs. I've said that a few times, but let it sink in. You, me, we are INSIGNIFICANT and Earth is NOT OURS. The theory is that life is ALL AROUND YOU right now. These beings are able to manipulate higher dimensions and can be anywhere, at any time, in any place they want to be. They can stand next to you, right this second as you read this, and you'll never know unless they want you to. It's a theory humans have created called Multi-Dimensional Theory, but the way they operate is best thought to be through Brane Theory. (Honestly, I had never heard of it before two days ago. Heady stuff) They have NO desire to interact with humans. If we fell off the Earth, they'd be fine. (Seriously, at this point if I hear some idiot mention flat earth, I'm going to slap the stupid out of your mouth. Grow up.) If we just putter around like we are without messing things up, that's fine too. They are going to be here and if we play with anything that would cause global harm that would cause Earth to become unusable to the point of actual physical destruction of the surface, they won't hesitate to stop us. Without any care whatsoever. I do not think that the atmosphere matters to them, only the physical space the earth occupies and somehow nuclear destruction. This is why they have told the governments that should they attempt large-scale nuclear conflict, things will not go well. They have shared some information out of necessity. [/ol]
I mean to be fair if I met Biden I wouldn't be friendly either, so..
I thought this thread was for detailing things that have happened in reality.Quote:
I was shown, and you will see firsthand during the hearing, one particular episode of an f-15 fighter jet being disintegrated by a particle beam technology that did not blow the thing up, it stopped it dead and turned it to ash. No debris.
The ONLY reason I posted the article is because the 4chan posts said:redline248 said:I thought this thread was for detailing things that have happened in reality.Quote:
I was shown, and you will see firsthand during the hearing, one particular episode of an f-15 fighter jet being disintegrated by a particle beam technology that did not blow the thing up, it stopped it dead and turned it to ash. No debris.
"Normal approach details, pilot responsive and actively talking. The feed cuts out, pilot still talking, suddenly nothing ... The weapon destroys the matter it hits entirely."
It reminded me of the article so I posted it...not because I believe it, but because I think the person who wrote it also posted on 4chan...and both can most probably be discredited.
There was a beam, green in color, it hit the side of the plane, the beam separated into four went across the fuselage, and then disappeared. The result was a plane-shaped cloud of… ash. Nothing else.
"Oh no, you did NOT shoot that green **** at me!" - Captain Steven Hiller, Independence Day.
Reading that whole thing...with him near the end telling others to grow up, do people who are insane ever actually know they're insane?
And always with the nuclear weapons disarmament fantasy. And the self-loathing. We're bugs. We're insignificant. You gotta love the logic of this which says that if we use destructive weapons on each other then they'll use uber-destructive weapons on us to show they have the moral high ground.
"Oh no, you did NOT shoot that green **** at me!" - Captain Steven Hiller, Independence Day.
Reading that whole thing...with him near the end telling others to grow up, do people who are insane ever actually know they're insane?
And always with the nuclear weapons disarmament fantasy. And the self-loathing. We're bugs. We're insignificant. You gotta love the logic of this which says that if we use destructive weapons on each other then they'll use uber-destructive weapons on us to show they have the moral high ground.
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
Crazy story here:
I had a work trip to Chicago this week, going through Denver to get there today. The Chicago trip from Denver was cancelled and I had to reroute to Indianapolis to get to Chicago. I normally keep to myself on flights. I boarded and sat down reading the creepy story I commented on earlier again. There was an old husband and wife sitting next to me and the lady looks over at my phone and gets very excited because I'm reading about UFOs and wants to tell her story to me of what just happened to her a few days ago.
She starts telling me that she lives on the Oregon coast, and she loves to take walks around their property. That day, the sky was perfectly clear. She loves seeing birds around and spots a bald eagle flying and starts taking pictures with her iPhone as fast as she could. She said during taking pictures, something caught her eye but couldn't really "see" it per se as it was blurry and looked out of place. She then said whatever it was, and I'm stating what she told me, "folded in on itself" and flew off before she could fully process what she was seeing. She gets home and starts looking at pictures and lo and behold, she got a picture of what she thought she saw. She sent me the pics from her phone and was extremely excited that I would talk to her about what she thought she saw. She's very catholic, and only saw a snippet from the congressional hearings on CNN, but aside from that, something like this has never crossed her mind. We spent the rest of the flight talking about that what ifs. She texted me these pictures directly after we landed.
Take it for what this is worth. I'm including all the pictures she gave me including a couple of the bald eagle she was trying to take a picture of. Bug, artifact of some kind, cloud? Dunno…
I had a work trip to Chicago this week, going through Denver to get there today. The Chicago trip from Denver was cancelled and I had to reroute to Indianapolis to get to Chicago. I normally keep to myself on flights. I boarded and sat down reading the creepy story I commented on earlier again. There was an old husband and wife sitting next to me and the lady looks over at my phone and gets very excited because I'm reading about UFOs and wants to tell her story to me of what just happened to her a few days ago.
She starts telling me that she lives on the Oregon coast, and she loves to take walks around their property. That day, the sky was perfectly clear. She loves seeing birds around and spots a bald eagle flying and starts taking pictures with her iPhone as fast as she could. She said during taking pictures, something caught her eye but couldn't really "see" it per se as it was blurry and looked out of place. She then said whatever it was, and I'm stating what she told me, "folded in on itself" and flew off before she could fully process what she was seeing. She gets home and starts looking at pictures and lo and behold, she got a picture of what she thought she saw. She sent me the pics from her phone and was extremely excited that I would talk to her about what she thought she saw. She's very catholic, and only saw a snippet from the congressional hearings on CNN, but aside from that, something like this has never crossed her mind. We spent the rest of the flight talking about that what ifs. She texted me these pictures directly after we landed.
Take it for what this is worth. I'm including all the pictures she gave me including a couple of the bald eagle she was trying to take a picture of. Bug, artifact of some kind, cloud? Dunno…
I remember Grusch mentioning Kirkpatrick's name in the hearing, but I don't remember exactly what he said. I thought it was something along the lines of he gave info to Kirkpatrick, or maybe Kirkpatrick is who congress should talk to about their questions. It felt like he was saying Kirkpatrick had lied - or at least hidden some truth - to congress in the earlier hearing he was in.Aztec1948 said:
That letter discussed in the video, though, sounds like Kirkpatrick using a lot of semantic language to discredit Grusch. Like, he's not necessarily calling him a liar, but he's going "technically he didn't do this or that." Very weird.
Got us a good ol' fashioned He said, She said!
That's why Entertainment is the perfect board for it all
We need one of those NCIS tech nerds to do some cleaning up of that picture.
redline248 said:I remember Grusch mentioning Kirkpatrick's name in the hearing, but I don't remember exactly what he said. I thought it was something along the lines of he gave info to Kirkpatrick, or maybe Kirkpatrick is who congress should talk to about their questions. It felt like he was saying Kirkpatrick had lied - or at least hidden some truth - to congress in the earlier hearing he was in.Aztec1948 said:
That letter discussed in the video, though, sounds like Kirkpatrick using a lot of semantic language to discredit Grusch. Like, he's not necessarily calling him a liar, but he's going "technically he didn't do this or that." Very weird.
Got us a good ol' fashioned He said, She said!
Yeah, there's apparently a pretty big beef between Grusch and Kirkpatrick. But not only does Grusch seem to have the receipts, in my personal opinion it's looking more and more like either AARO was setup to purposefully stonewall and obfuscate, a la Project Blue Book back in the day, or Kirkpatrick was inserted into the lead AARO role to stonewall and obfuscate. Either way, the dude has increasingly come across as shady as hell, and now petulant to boot, with the release of his letter last week. IMO, we're potentially watching the two opposing factions everyone keeps referring to - those in government who want disclosure and those trying like hell to keep it from happening - represented publicly, in real time, by Grusch and Kirkpatrick. But who knows? Either way, yeah, it definitely adds to the drama.
I think that's a mountain lion in the third pic. Please bring in your pets at night.
CNN is an enemy of the state and should be treated as such.
Probably a balloon flopping in the wind
Wow-thank you for sharing the story and the photo here. Looks very vehiclish to me.TKEAg04 said:
Crazy story here:
I had a work trip to Chicago this week, going through Denver to get there today. The Chicago trip from Denver was cancelled and I had to reroute to Indianapolis to get to Chicago. I normally keep to myself on flights. I boarded and sat down reading the creepy story I commented on earlier again. There was an old husband and wife sitting next to me and the lady looks over at my phone and gets very excited because I'm reading about UFOs and wants to tell her story to me of what just happened to her a few days ago.
She starts telling me that she lives on the Oregon coast, and she loves to take walks around their property. That day, the sky was perfectly clear. She loves seeing birds around and spots a bald eagle flying and starts taking pictures with her iPhone as fast as she could. She said during taking pictures, something caught her eye but couldn't really "see" it per se as it was blurry and looked out of place. She then said whatever it was, and I'm stating what she told me, "folded in on itself" and flew off before she could fully process what she was seeing. She gets home and starts looking at pictures and lo and behold, she got a picture of what she thought she saw. She sent me the pics from her phone and was extremely excited that I would talk to her about what she thought she saw. She's very catholic, and only saw a snippet from the congressional hearings on CNN, but aside from that, something like this has never crossed her mind. We spent the rest of the flight talking about that what ifs. She texted me these pictures directly after we landed.
Take it for what this is worth. I'm including all the pictures she gave me including a couple of the bald eagle she was trying to take a picture of. Bug, artifact of some kind, cloud? Dunno…
Good interview today:
"I have been told that we have recovered technology that did not originate on this".-Former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence-Chris Mellon
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
“Behind the scenes, high-ranking Air Force officers are soberly concerned about UFOs. But through official secrecy and ridicule, many citizens are led to believe that unknown flying objects are nonsense.” Former CIA Director, Roscoe Hillenkoetter, public statement, 1960.
G Martin 87 said:I remember reading that 4chan thread a few weeks ago. It struck me as a total LARP. Currently I'm reading Corso's book about Roswell, since it was specifically mentioned in the 1998 document linked earlier up above.lunchbox said:Yeah, there's a part 2 and a few follow-ups.Quote:
There is a part 2 of that article. I'm not sure how to feel about it.
I hadn't posted them here because I thought it was crap (still do)....but when I read the 4chan posts, there were a lot of similarities.
https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/114761/documents/HHRG-117-IG05-20220517-SD001.pdf
Not sure I buy anything in that document yet, but Corso's book has been very interesting so far.
That's a blast from the past….I'll have to see if I still have that book somewhere. Read it in the 90's. Take those claims with a grain of salt. Storm Thurmond was lied to about the contents of the book when he wrote the forward about Corso. I think other Corso claims may have been proven false or exaggerated.
To me he's a good example of the conflict of interest when you claim to have knowledge of the subject and are also trying to sell books or TV shows about it. You have a financial incentive to exaggerate, leave out critical information or just flat out lie in order to sell more books and TV shows. It takes an already high burden of proof and makes it even higher for your claims.
Agreed. I learned my lesson with "The Monuments of Mars".Rocagnante said:G Martin 87 said:I remember reading that 4chan thread a few weeks ago. It struck me as a total LARP. Currently I'm reading Corso's book about Roswell, since it was specifically mentioned in the 1998 document linked earlier up above.lunchbox said:Yeah, there's a part 2 and a few follow-ups.Quote:
There is a part 2 of that article. I'm not sure how to feel about it.
I hadn't posted them here because I thought it was crap (still do)....but when I read the 4chan posts, there were a lot of similarities.
https://www.congress.gov/117/meeting/house/114761/documents/HHRG-117-IG05-20220517-SD001.pdf
Not sure I buy anything in that document yet, but Corso's book has been very interesting so far.
That's a blast from the past….I'll have to see if I still have that book somewhere. Read it in the 90's. Take those claims with a grain of salt. Storm Thurmond was lied to about the contents of the book when he wrote the forward about Corso. I think other Corso claims may have been proven false or exaggerated.
To me he's a good example of the conflict of interest when you claim to have knowledge of the subject and are also trying to sell books or TV shows about it. You have a financial incentive to exaggerate, leave out critical information or just flat out lie in order to sell more books and TV shows. It takes an already high burden of proof and makes it even higher for your claims.
Strom Thurmond's foreword was pretty generic. It was the type of polite support you would expect a politician to write about a staffer.
Was Corso's book ghostwritten? The account is compelling and hard to put down, but quite self-serving at times. Some of the details he claims about the Roswell crash debris and occupants would have been new information in 1998, but have since popped back up recently. My suspicion is that this book is the only source for those rumors.
Not sure if ghostwriter or not. There were a couple books back in the 90's primarily around Roswell and it seems like claims from those books are resurfacing. Not sure if Corso book or a different one but I remember they claimed that humans in presence of the "anti-gravity" drives would lose their mind and all sense of time. That was recycled recently and seemed like it was presented as new information.
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