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Oof. I mean, just browsing the comments while starting to watch and seeing (random sampling):

They're getting ready to fight Christ and his armies' return to end this Illuminati system running the world now - that's who they planning on fighting! "The high shall be made low and the low shall be made high". Too could be got to incorporate zero point energy tech worldwide cause of climate change.

Without a new non-carbon emission fuel, this planet is going to suffocate so we must have a new source of energy and the non-humans can help us with that and like some of the other comments say on this thread, it will help us clean up the planet, and hopefully along with that our human hearts

Could this be the beginning of the alien invasion false flag Werner Von Braun was warning about before he passed? Everything happening now could the lead up to it. I really hope not. I hope this is all real. The world will be a much better place once the truth is finally revealed and we can use the technology to better mankind.

I honestly believe that we have been warned to clean up our planet and thats why they are pushing for zero pollution, we think this planet is ours but in fact its not .There has been rumors that the Anunnaki are coming back and maybe they aren't to far away.

Is it possible that the urgency to disclose is due to some claim that an armada is on its way? Starting to sound like the perfect storm for project blue light. I suppose it's also possible that some species has told our governments that they will announce their presence if our leaders don't

Theres a reason for space force . Oh and vampires are out there . And aliens live amongst us .

Non-human intelligence are not a threat. Human groups posing as non-human with anti-gravity craft, are committing crimes against humanity. These criminals need to be stopped.





I mean, these aren't even cherry-picked, they're practically one next to the other. Christ returning, zero-point energy, the Illuminati, an alien invasion, they're here to stop pollution, Anunnaki are coming back, vampires, and human criminals with anti-grav tech.


And throughout the comments they're all shouting some version of "Why won't people in the mainstream take this seriously and why is no mass media anywhere in the world covering all this?!?!?!"

I don't know, I guess the media is controlled by Christian antigravity Anunnaki vampires..

Anyone who is remotely a believer who doesn't at least understand the constant mockery needs to just step back a little bit and look again. Your teammates are not helping.

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Your response is typical. The "teammates"? Any person can pose as a "teammate" with the sole purpose of looking like a complete loon. You fell for it. Now, because random anonymous people that support a particular point of view appear to be crazy, it somehow debunks or make less credible the entire premise. That is opposition propaganda 101.

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Oh, right, silly me.

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It's certainly easy to go down rabbit holes with this stuff. I keep seeing Steven Greer's name all over who seems to be some kind of patron saint of the dyed in the wool believers, I've heard his name before but since so many people are saying "This all backs up what he's said and proves he's been right all along!" They keep referencing a show he was on a few days ago and I just watched some of it.

Man, admittedly I've not consumed much of his input yet but from what he's saying and how he's saying it he comes off as a 100% narcissistic pathological liar, transparently so. Maybe I'm wrong but dang, every time I try to do a serious deep dive giving the benefit of the doubt I end up more convinced countless people are just looney tunes. If people like him are the reason we should take this seriously then we might as well call this off now.

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This is exactly where you and I are going to find some common ground. Do not listen to a word this snake oil salesman has to say. He's notoriously full of sh*t.

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I tried listening to Greer on The Shaun Ryan show.

Absolutely off the wall bonkers.

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Yeah, that's the one I watched some of. Yikes.

Speaking just for myself, the only "fringe" theory I paid any attention to was "The Face on Mars", which was almost solely based on a single photo from the Viking 1 mission in 1976. And I immediately tossed that theory in the dustbin as soon as NASA released accurate satellite imagery from Global Surveyor in 1998. The Blumenthal-Kean NYT article was what got me interested in UFOs again. I'm not buying any of the speculation yet. What I am curious about is why our government seems convinced that UFOs are a genuine national security threat. I thought that the Condon Report put an end to all that. Apparently that was a lie.

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Oh, right, silly me.

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Umm, that is probably worse than saying the zoo on a gameday is a proper representation of Aggies.

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Oh, right, silly me.

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Umm, that is probably worse than saying the zoo on a gameday is a proper representation of Aggies.

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They are extremely numerous everywhere and they are extremely vocal. So that even someone with a genuine curiosity takes one look around and goes "aw hell no..." This is why no one outside those circles will take it seriously until they show alien bodies or craft. There is WAY too much baggage.

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Oof. I mean, just browsing the comments while starting to watch and seeing (random sampling):

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Not even close to the clown show you'd see if convincing UAP physical evidence is disclosed without satisfactory answers to the bigger questions of who, what, when, how, and where.

I think they are reading way more into that bill than is there. It's basically a crowd pleaser bill that has the added bonus of doing a nut squeeze power play on the DOJ, not much more.

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I highly recommend watching/listening to last night's entire Coulthart/Zabel podcast about the new bill. Coulthart provides a lot of great context, clarifies a few things, hints other things to come, all while spitting some righteous fire as well...

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Just finished it. I remain unconvinced but curious. All these insiders hoarding all this knowledge while claiming to be pushing for disclosure but won't tell us all they know themselves. Being told "We need to push for them to completely come clean" by people who will bluntly tell you that they themselves know a lot more than they will say is really something else. Meanwhile we'll have non-intelligence humans in congress investigating non-human intelligences.

Show me.

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I feel you, but he does have sources and stuff to protect. He would never get another story from anyone "credible" if he betrayed their trust. Not to mention, he only has second hand information, so even if he did dsiclose everything he knows, it wouldn't prove anything. He has mentioned Lockhead Martin is a player in this, big surprise I know, but it is more than pretty much anyone else has disclosed.

The one thing that seemed ominious was Zabel bringing up the speed this is happening. Did not like the vibe that gave off, but could just be rats abondoning ship like Coulthart brought up, or this could all be a distraction from the worldwide pedo / child cannibal ring going around amongst the global elite. Who knows.

To those bashing Schumer's involvement, you do know Rubio has been involved the whole time right? Not that really helps, as I don't trust any of them, but why not wait until the information comes to light as there is a public hearing next week. I doubt the hearing will do anything to silence any of the skeptics or critics, no one is saying you guys need to do anything actionable or actually believe anything.

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To those bashing Schumer's involvement, you do know Rubio has been involved the whole time right? Not that really helps, as I don't trust any of them, but why not wait until the information comes to light as there is a public hearing next week. I doubt the hearing will do anything to silence any of the skeptics or critics, no one is saying you guys need to do anything actionable or actually believe anything.

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Well, there's no doubt that either credit or blame should be assigned to both parties depending on the result. They're both knee deep in it.

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I feel you, but he does have sources and stuff to protect. He would never get another story from anyone "credible" if he betrayed their trust. Not to mention, he only has second hand information, so even if he did dsiclose everything he knows, it wouldn't prove anything. He has mentioned Lockhead Martin is a player in this, big surprise I know, but it is more than pretty much anyone else has disclosed.

The one thing that seemed ominious was Zabel bringing up the speed this is happening. Did not like the vibe that gave off, but could just be rats abondoning ship like Coulthart brought up, or this could all be a distraction from the worldwide pedo / child cannibal ring going around amongst the global elite. Who knows.

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I really think people on both sides of it need to adopt a show me don't tell attitude about it though at this point.

Even a press conference with us being told by Shumer or whoever else in the government saying "Hey, just FYI, we do have aliens and alien tech, so now you know" and that's all is unacceptable. I don't trust the government on much of anything at this point and the believers shouldn't accept that, either. Don't argue that the government has lied and murdered for 80 years and then turn around and accept what they say is the truth now just because it's what you want to hear this time.

Show me. Show us.

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I agree, and I think there is some confusion about a lot of us "believers" as I don't really believe anything yet. I am interested in reading the evidence and am not looking to prematurely dismiss it just because it sounds outlandish. I feel like there are a lot of us out there in that boat. It's not like we are doing anything actionable about any of this, just keeping our eye on it.

Also, yeah, I don't think the government saying "yes, we have non-human crafts / bodies" is enough without some direct evidence being presented at this point. I could see it stagnating at that point for a while though unfortunately due to "national security", and really what does that level of disclosure even matter.

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Man, admittedly I've not consumed much of his input yet but from what he's saying and how he's saying it he comes off as a 100% narcissistic pathological liar, transparently so.

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This is exactly where you and I are going to find some common ground. Do not listen to a word this snake oil salesman has to say. He's notoriously full of sh*t.

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And that gentlemen, is the crux of public perception ... too many wingnuts and too little evidence..

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The secrecy has been well maintained. Beyond that even. The public is in for a shock. We will be ok though and better for the truth coming out.

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So you're really convinced we're going to be shown such amazing stuff that this is going to change anyone's mind that's not already fully onboard? I seriously doubt it. Either there's nothing to it anyway or else there is something to it and nothing indisputable will be shown except maybe more fuzzy dots and repeats of what we've heard for decades.

This is the same kind of stuff I see on the comments on Ross' youtube videos or those of Newsnation the only (and almost brand new) news channel that's even bothering to follow any of this. "This world will be totally transformed by what we're all about to see!, Everyone will finally know the truth! You just wait, minds will be blown!" The words from the hardcore followers, and the enormous number of prominent Greer-like frauds, is what leads me to constantly assume that this is all fantasy until proven otherwise. And if it is shown to be real then of course I'll accept it.

But is this seriously what you guys are expecting? "The public is in for a shock"? That just seems so unrealistic to me.

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Yes, I think those that believed the lies will be somewhat shocked. Especially, those that have had several years of programming. Just how much our gov will disclose is anyone's guess at this point.

Thoughts on the current controlled EXTRATERRESTRIAL reality disclosure process and related US GOV cover-up? Will it be simply a partial disclosure? Once the uneasy, contagious giggling subsides, how will our civilization and the misled sheep adapt to this publicly known reality? Are the good Shepherds withholding the truth in our best interest? Perhaps multiple species are involved? How will the 80+ years of dishonesty be addressed? Is it required that we be honest when it comes to our tax returns? Has the cost of maintaining the lie exceeded the price of simply telling the truth? Is it time this great country starts walking the walk and become the leader we proclaim ourselves to be? What might be some of the potential implications of disclosure of this reality? New energy sources perhaps? Transportation? Religions? History? The economy? Race relations? The environment? Politics? Perhaps it leads to confirmation of hidden energy alternatives and an established "secret" space program? But does the flock really want to know the complete story?

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I feel you, but he does have sources and stuff to protect. He would never get another story from anyone "credible" if he betrayed their trust. Not to mention, he only has second hand information, so even if he did dsiclose everything he knows, it wouldn't prove anything. He has mentioned Lockhead Martin is a player in this, big surprise I know, but it is more than pretty much anyone else has disclosed.

The one thing that seemed ominious was Zabel bringing up the speed this is happening. Did not like the vibe that gave off, but could just be rats abondoning ship like Coulthart brought up, or this could all be a distraction from the worldwide pedo / child cannibal ring going around amongst the global elite. Who knows.

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I really think people on both sides of it need to adopt a show me don't tell attitude about it though at this point.

Even a press conference with us being told by Shumer or whoever else in the government saying "Hey, just FYI, we do have aliens and alien tech, so now you know" and that's all is unacceptable. I don't trust the government on much of anything at this point and the believers shouldn't accept that, either. Don't argue that the government has lied and murdered for 80 years and then turn around and accept what they say is the truth now just because it's what you want to hear this time.

Show me. Show us.

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I agree, and I think there is some confusion about a lot of us "believers" as I don't really believe anything yet. I am interested in reading the evidence and am not looking to prematurely dismiss it just because it sounds outlandish. I feel like there are a lot of us out there in that boat. It's not like we are doing anything actionable about any of this, just keeping our eye on it.

Also, yeah, I don't think the government saying "yes, we have non-human crafts / bodies" is enough without some direct evidence being presented at this point. I could see it stagnating at that point for a while though unfortunately due to "national security", and really what does that level of disclosure even matter.

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I'm pretty close to where you're coming from. I have no intention to try to prove to people they don't exist, and I've said on here many times that if they do and there's hard info to convince me then so be it. I'm very aware that on both sides there's a very wide range of interest and acceptance and I certainly didn't mean to imply with those fringe quotes above that those represent all people on that side. just that there's a lot of "noise" that immediately turns off honestly curious but more casual people.

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Man, admittedly I've not consumed much of his input yet but from what he's saying and how he's saying it he comes off as a 100% narcissistic pathological liar, transparently so.

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This is exactly where you and I are going to find some common ground. Do not listen to a word this snake oil salesman has to say. He's notoriously full of sh*t.

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And that gentlemen, is the crux of public perception ... too many wingnuts and too little evidence..

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The secrecy has been well maintained. Beyond that even. The public is in for a shock. We will be ok though and better for the truth coming out.

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So you're really convinced we're going to be shown such amazing stuff that this is going to change anyone's mind that's not already fully onboard? I seriously doubt it. Either there's nothing to it anyway or else there is something to it and nothing indisputable will be shown except maybe more fuzzy dots and repeats of what we've heard for decades.

This is the same kind of stuff I see on the comments on Ross' youtube videos or those of Newsnation the only (and almost brand new) news channel that's even bothering to follow any of this. "This world will be totally transformed by what we're all about to see!, Everyone will finally know the truth! You just wait, minds will be blown!" The words from the hardcore followers, and the enormous number of prominent Greer-like frauds, is what leads me to constantly assume that this is all fantasy until proven otherwise. And if it is shown to be real then of course I'll accept it.

But is this seriously what you guys are expecting? "The public is in for a shock"? That just seems so unrealistic to me.

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Yes, I think those that believed the lies will be somewhat shocked. Especially, those that have had several years of programming. Just how much our gov will disclose is anyone's guess at this point.

Thoughts on the current controlled EXTRATERRESTRIAL reality disclosure process and related US GOV cover-up? Will it be simply a partial disclosure? Once the uneasy, contagious giggling subsides, how will our civilization and the misled sheep adapt to this publicly known reality? Are the good Shepherds withholding the truth in our best interest? Perhaps multiple species are involved? How will the 80+ years of dishonesty be addressed? Is it required that we be honest when it comes to our tax returns? Has the cost of maintaining the lie exceeded the price of simply telling the truth? Is it time this great country starts walking the walk and become the leader we proclaim ourselves to be? What might be some of the potential implications of disclosure of this reality? New energy sources perhaps? Transportation? Religions? History? The economy? Race relations? The environment? Politics? Perhaps it leads to confirmation of hidden energy alternatives and an established "secret" space program? But does the flock really want to know the complete story?

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I'm not sure the often-made claims that we could benefit from their tech is a valid one. Our technology improvement rate is practically a vertical line as it is now with constant questions about how fast humans can keep up with it. The human advancements in artificial intelligence, genetics, propulsion, communication, computing and so on is so fast most people can't keep up and there are real questions about they all can potentially damage society.

We went from first flying a plane a few feet in 1903 to landing on the moon in 1969, we went from muskets and bayonets in 1860 to fighter jets and nuclear weapons in 1945, and you guys want to possibly ramp that by fast forwarding thousands or millions of years instantly?

People are not thinking this stuff through. If it's real it's real but after a very short period of euphoria 1000 different reasons would sink in why this would all be very very bad that they're even here.

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I highly recommend watching/listening to last night's entire Coulthart/Zabel podcast about the new bill. Coulthart provides a lot of great context, clarifies a few things, hints other things to come, all while spitting some righteous fire as well...

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Just finished it. I remain unconvinced but curious. All these insiders hoarding all this knowledge while claiming to be pushing for disclosure but won't tell us all they know themselves. Being told "We need to push for them to completely come clean" by people who will bluntly tell you that they themselves know a lot more than they will say is really something else. Meanwhile we'll have non-intelligence humans in congress investigating non-human intelligences.

Show me.

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I feel you, but he does have sources and stuff to protect. He would never get another story from anyone "credible" if he betrayed their trust. Not to mention, he only has second hand information, so even if he did dsiclose everything he knows, it wouldn't prove anything. He has mentioned Lockhead Martin is a player in this, big surprise I know, but it is more than pretty much anyone else has disclosed.

The one thing that seemed ominious was Zabel bringing up the speed this is happening. Did not like the vibe that gave off, but could just be rats abondoning ship like Coulthart brought up, or this could all be a distraction from the worldwide pedo / child cannibal ring going around amongst the global elite. Who knows.

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I really think people on both sides of it need to adopt a show me don't tell attitude about it though at this point.

Even a press conference with us being told by Shumer or whoever else in the government saying "Hey, just FYI, we do have aliens and alien tech, so now you know" and that's all is unacceptable. I don't trust the government on much of anything at this point and the believers shouldn't accept that, either. Don't argue that the government has lied and murdered for 80 years and then turn around and accept what they say is the truth now just because it's what you want to hear this time.

Show me. Show us.

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It's definitely worth remembering that there have been UFO hearings before Congress several times before. Nothing definitive happened then. If this time feels different, it may just be because social media gives everyone, skeptics and believers alike, a megaphone. Anyone expecting The Disclosure would be well advised to keep their expectations low.

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Agreed.

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I highly recommend watching/listening to last night's entire Coulthart/Zabel podcast about the new bill. Coulthart provides a lot of great context, clarifies a few things, hints other things to come, all while spitting some righteous fire as well...

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Just finished it. I remain unconvinced but curious. All these insiders hoarding all this knowledge while claiming to be pushing for disclosure but won't tell us all they know themselves. Being told "We need to push for them to completely come clean" by people who will bluntly tell you that they themselves know a lot more than they will say is really something else. Meanwhile we'll have non-intelligence humans in congress investigating non-human intelligences.

Show me.

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I feel you, but he does have sources and stuff to protect. He would never get another story from anyone "credible" if he betrayed their trust. Not to mention, he only has second hand information, so even if he did dsiclose everything he knows, it wouldn't prove anything. He has mentioned Lockhead Martin is a player in this, big surprise I know, but it is more than pretty much anyone else has disclosed.

The one thing that seemed ominious was Zabel bringing up the speed this is happening. Did not like the vibe that gave off, but could just be rats abondoning ship like Coulthart brought up, or this could all be a distraction from the worldwide pedo / child cannibal ring going around amongst the global elite. Who knows.

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I really think people on both sides of it need to adopt a show me don't tell attitude about it though at this point.

Even a press conference with us being told by Shumer or whoever else in the government saying "Hey, just FYI, we do have aliens and alien tech, so now you know" and that's all is unacceptable. I don't trust the government on much of anything at this point and the believers shouldn't accept that, either. Don't argue that the government has lied and murdered for 80 years and then turn around and accept what they say is the truth now just because it's what you want to hear this time.

Show me. Show us.

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I've said this countless times in this thread, and yet you keep ignoring the facts that A) this is currently CLASSIFIED information, and B) no one owes you anything at this point in the process.

You (i.e. Joe Public) are no one's main concern right now.

That, and they can't just "show us."

What they are doing, however, is taking the steps to DE-CLASSIFY this information, and that involves a process, one that begins with hearings and legislation.

Also, as Mr. President Elect said, the Coultharts of the world have sources to protect, which is just Journalism 101.

In other words, what you're asking for isn't at all how any of this works, and shifts the entire ordeal to cater to your impatience. Especially when a number of us here seem to agree at this point that if they don't put up or shut up during the second half of next year, this issue is pretty much dead and loses all credibility. Even I'll start to have my doubts then.

So just chill. Now that this process is in motion, let's allow it to play out. This is leading to what everyone here wants - an answer as to is this real or is this bunk.

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I think they are reading way more into that bill than is there. It's basically a crowd pleaser bill that has the added bonus of doing a nut squeeze power play on the DOJ, not much more.

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Bingo. Schumer is an expert at fooling taxpayers out of their money. Expect his family and friends to benefit from whatever BS govt program created to make friends with the martians.

Ironic that the same people who rail agains QAnon quacks are getting behind the exact same quackery here….except aliens. Good lord.

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Schumer is only one piece of the puzzle, and his involvement doesn't at all discount the countless other highly credible individuals who have come forward. Also, since 2017, this subject has moved so far past tinfoil-hat-wearing, mom's-basement-dwelling, Ancient-Aliens-watching conspiracy theory nonsense. In other words, I'm merely reacting to what highly credible pilots and officials are saying publicly, on the record. I'm not listening to the equivalent of some deranged moron on a message board who calls himself Q.

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If directed at me, all I have ever done is question the concept of a god who forces billions of souls into existence against their will, knowing beyond a shadow of a doubt that the vast majority of them, statistically speaking, will burn in hell forever. It's a perfectly valid question, one that concerns only the logic of the conceit. Otherwise, I don't deride people for their faith. The only time I have ever pushed back in that regard is when I've first been told I'm going to burn in hell myself.

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Somehow missed this response earlier.

So regarding this particular discussion, your argument is we would be better off as mindless puppets as opposed to having free will?

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I'm so confused as to how you got there from what I said. What does mindless puppets vs free will have anything to do with what I said, or this particular discussion?

Excellent point, and exactly why it seems so weird to me to suddenly discount all of this due simply to Schumer.

According to Senate Majority Leader Schumer, a sweeping congressional investigation uncovered a “vast web” of UFO whistleblowers who suggest that private companies possess “technologies of unknown origin” and “biological evidence of non-human intelligence.”https://t.co/L6qMMGZpEL

— MarikvR (@MvonRen) July 18, 2023

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Excellent point, and exactly why it seems so weird to me to suddenly discount all of this due simply to Schumer.

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At this point they're just trolling to get a rise out of you. They'll latch on to one negative thing to use a broad brush to invalidate everything. I'd just ignore them.

Some of the claims I find believable. Some unbelievable. I'm still skeptical but open to the possibility…the probability is not 0.0 based on the past 4 years.

We'll have more clarity after next week. I don't expect disclosure but I do expect some movement in that direction if these things are real. If not, then they're not real or the folks controlling access to the real proof have won behind the scenes.

We are very well past the point of disclosure for both unidentified aerial phenomenon and unidentified underwater phenomenon ….

plenty of videos and credible testimony, including breaking laws of our understanding of physics.

Now …… Non-terrestrial intelligence. Again, Christians are obligated to believe in this (God as human, angels unaware, and powers of the air).

The next step is primarily material entities (and humans are embodied spirits, IMO) from a planet, just as humans are from a planet.

It's not much of a leap, is it?

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Man, admittedly I've not consumed much of his input yet but from what he's saying and how he's saying it he comes off as a 100% narcissistic pathological liar, transparently so.

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This is exactly where you and I are going to find some common ground. Do not listen to a word this snake oil salesman has to say. He's notoriously full of sh*t.

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And that gentlemen, is the crux of public perception ... too many wingnuts and too little evidence..

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The secrecy has been well maintained. Beyond that even. The public is in for a shock. We will be ok though and better for the truth coming out.

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So you're really convinced we're going to be shown such amazing stuff that this is going to change anyone's mind that's not already fully onboard? I seriously doubt it. Either there's nothing to it anyway or else there is something to it and nothing indisputable will be shown except maybe more fuzzy dots and repeats of what we've heard for decades.

This is the same kind of stuff I see on the comments on Ross' youtube videos or those of Newsnation the only (and almost brand new) news channel that's even bothering to follow any of this. "This world will be totally transformed by what we're all about to see!, Everyone will finally know the truth! You just wait, minds will be blown!" The words from the hardcore followers, and the enormous number of prominent Greer-like frauds, is what leads me to constantly assume that this is all fantasy until proven otherwise. And if it is shown to be real then of course I'll accept it.

But is this seriously what you guys are expecting? "The public is in for a shock"? That just seems so unrealistic to me.

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Yes, I think those that believed the lies will be somewhat shocked. Especially, those that have had several years of programming. Just how much our gov will disclose is anyone's guess at this point.

Thoughts on the current controlled EXTRATERRESTRIAL reality disclosure process and related US GOV cover-up? Will it be simply a partial disclosure? Once the uneasy, contagious giggling subsides, how will our civilization and the misled sheep adapt to this publicly known reality? Are the good Shepherds withholding the truth in our best interest? Perhaps multiple species are involved? How will the 80+ years of dishonesty be addressed? Is it required that we be honest when it comes to our tax returns? Has the cost of maintaining the lie exceeded the price of simply telling the truth? Is it time this great country starts walking the walk and become the leader we proclaim ourselves to be? What might be some of the potential implications of disclosure of this reality? New energy sources perhaps? Transportation? Religions? History? The economy? Race relations? The environment? Politics? Perhaps it leads to confirmation of hidden energy alternatives and an established "secret" space program? But does the flock really want to know the complete story?

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I'm not sure the often-made claims that we could benefit from their tech is a valid one. Our technology improvement rate is practically a vertical line as it is now with constant questions about how fast humans can keep up with it. The human advancements in artificial intelligence, genetics, propulsion, communication, computing and so on is so fast most people can't keep up and there are real questions about they all can potentially damage society.

We went from first flying a plane a few feet in 1903 to landing on the moon in 1969, we went from muskets and bayonets in 1860 to fighter jets and nuclear weapons in 1945, and you guys want to possibly ramp that by fast forwarding thousands or millions of years instantly?

People are not thinking this stuff through. If it's real it's real but after a very short period of euphoria 1000 different reasons would sink in why this would all be very very bad that they're even here.

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Listen to what former the military/intelligence officials are saying. Doesn't take a whole lot of thinking to simply do that. More are coming out. More will be talking...

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Man, admittedly I've not consumed much of his input yet but from what he's saying and how he's saying it he comes off as a 100% narcissistic pathological liar, transparently so.

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This is exactly where you and I are going to find some common ground. Do not listen to a word this snake oil salesman has to say. He's notoriously full of sh*t.

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And that gentlemen, is the crux of public perception ... too many wingnuts and too little evidence..

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The secrecy has been well maintained. Beyond that even. The public is in for a shock. We will be ok though and better for the truth coming out.

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So you're really convinced we're going to be shown such amazing stuff that this is going to change anyone's mind that's not already fully onboard? I seriously doubt it. Either there's nothing to it anyway or else there is something to it and nothing indisputable will be shown except maybe more fuzzy dots and repeats of what we've heard for decades.

This is the same kind of stuff I see on the comments on Ross' youtube videos or those of Newsnation the only (and almost brand new) news channel that's even bothering to follow any of this. "This world will be totally transformed by what we're all about to see!, Everyone will finally know the truth! You just wait, minds will be blown!" The words from the hardcore followers, and the enormous number of prominent Greer-like frauds, is what leads me to constantly assume that this is all fantasy until proven otherwise. And if it is shown to be real then of course I'll accept it.

But is this seriously what you guys are expecting? "The public is in for a shock"? That just seems so unrealistic to me.

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Yes, I think those that believed the lies will be somewhat shocked. Especially, those that have had several years of programming. Just how much our gov will disclose is anyone's guess at this point.

Thoughts on the current controlled EXTRATERRESTRIAL reality disclosure process and related US GOV cover-up? Will it be simply a partial disclosure? Once the uneasy, contagious giggling subsides, how will our civilization and the misled sheep adapt to this publicly known reality? Are the good Shepherds withholding the truth in our best interest? Perhaps multiple species are involved? How will the 80+ years of dishonesty be addressed? Is it required that we be honest when it comes to our tax returns? Has the cost of maintaining the lie exceeded the price of simply telling the truth? Is it time this great country starts walking the walk and become the leader we proclaim ourselves to be? What might be some of the potential implications of disclosure of this reality? New energy sources perhaps? Transportation? Religions? History? The economy? Race relations? The environment? Politics? Perhaps it leads to confirmation of hidden energy alternatives and an established "secret" space program? But does the flock really want to know the complete story?

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I'm not sure the often-made claims that we could benefit from their tech is a valid one. Our technology improvement rate is practically a vertical line as it is now with constant questions about how fast humans can keep up with it. The human advancements in artificial intelligence, genetics, propulsion, communication, computing and so on is so fast most people can't keep up and there are real questions about they all can potentially damage society.

We went from first flying a plane a few feet in 1903 to landing on the moon in 1969, we went from muskets and bayonets in 1860 to fighter jets and nuclear weapons in 1945, and you guys want to possibly ramp that by fast forwarding thousands or millions of years instantly?

People are not thinking this stuff through. If it's real it's real but after a very short period of euphoria 1000 different reasons would sink in why this would all be very very bad that they're even here.

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Listen to what former the military/intelligence officials are saying. Doesn't take a whole lot of thinking to simply do that. More are coming out. More will be talking...

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Alright, I'll be watching.

Grusch confirmed. As of now, the rumored lineup is Grusch, Lue Elizondo, and a potential first-hand witness to/participant in the crash retrieval/reverse engineering programs. That said, who knows where things ultimately end up, considering the Pentagon's and NASA's actions (which are telling in their own right)...

This is great news to hear David Grusch confirmed! However @timburchett says that the Pentagon interfered and forced another witness to back down and not testify. A NASA witness also backed out. Very disconcerting to say the least. https://t.co/Lm8qZgUrGM

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