*** UAP THREAD ***

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redline248
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Are there any more details on the complaint Grusch filed in 2021 to the DoD inspector general?
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Not that I've seen. Hopefully we'll get a bit more about that on Sunday.
Redstone
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I have been reading - in-depth - about UAPs for some time now. These most recent revelations are not unexpected.

I am also reading Blumenthal's book about John Mack, which is incredible.

This weekend, I will make a larger post on Spyder's Is UFO Secrecy Crumbling thread (Forum 16), which I periodically take over. I will also copy-paste that post here, shortly after initial publication.
Ghost of Bisbee
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He gonna be on 60 minutes?
Rocagnante
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NewsNation
Rocagnante
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No thanks, we're good.
Teddy Perkins
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What program on NewsNation do I need to search for on YouTube TV to record the full interview?
TCTTS
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It looks like the official title is We Are Not Alone: The UFO Whistleblower Speaks...


TCTTS
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It's a one-hour special, and then apparently afterwards there will be either a half-hour or hour-long follow-up, hosted by someone else, discussing the interview, I assume with a panel or guests or whatever.
TCTTS
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Also, just a reminder that Sunday's interview was recorded across seven hours and two different sit-downs between Grusch and Coulthart, edited down to a one-hour special. Coutlhart has said that he and his partner Bryce Zabel plan to then release the entire seven hours (or close to it) at some point after, on their podcast Need to Know.
redline248
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Have to make sure they milk it for maximum viewership before everyone gets bored again
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If I was sitting on what *could* end up being the story of millennium, I'd use it to promote my podcast as well.
redline248
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It would be stupid not to
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redline248
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That guy reiterates some of the stuff we've discussed, and the biggest phenomenon might actually be the shift in how the government is responding to it. Again, the question - which that opinion writer repeats - is why the shift?
TCTTS
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From what I understand, the reveal of an actual, sanctioned/financed UAP Task Force, along with the leaking of those two now-infamous videos, both in the 2017 New York Times piece + the Nimitz pilots coming forward, along with the pilots coming forward who continue to report weird sh*t in our skies nearly every single day, apparently forced the government's hand. They simply couldn't give the standard denial any more, and that cracked the door open just enough to get to where we are today.

Of course, the cynical take would be that the government could have simply kept stonewalling, and so they've "come clean" for alternative motives. That doesn't seem as likely to me, but who knows...
Teddy Perkins
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Found it! Thanks!
G Martin 87
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TCTTS said:

From what I understand, the reveal of an actual, sanctioned/financed UAP Task Force, along with the leaking of those two now-infamous videos, both in the 2017 New York Times piece + the Nimitz pilots coming forward, along with the pilots coming forward who continue to report weird sh*t in our skies nearly every single day, apparently forced the government's hand. They simply couldn't give the standard denial any more, and that cracked the door open just enough to get to where we are today.

Of course, the cynical take would be that the government could have simply kept stonewalling, and so they've "come clean" for alternative motives. That doesn't seem as likely to me, but who knows...
On the latest episode of That UFO Podcast, the speculation was that the timing of the whistleblower interview purposefully coincides with the Congress summer schedule so that there is nothing else going on to take Congress' attention away.
Redstone
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This is religious, and not as simple as angels / demons. I'm starting a thread on Religion soon and will link to it here. There may be consilience with testimonies, physical evidence, writings of Apostolic (Catholic / Orthodox) mystics, and close Biblical textual analysis.

I recommend the Protestant scholar Michael Heiser, especially The Unseen Realm, and Catholic apologist Jimmy Akin's Mysterious World podcast.

The Debrief article:
https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

Blumenthal has an excellent book about Harvard researcher John Mack, The Believer. He was a serious investigator who came to believe through first-hand testimony and physical evidence - and was unbelievably targeted for it.

A summary from Steve Skojec:
https://skojecfile.steveskojec.com/p/us-intelligence-officials-say-america

Two filmmakers I recommend are James Fox (The Phenomenon especially) and also Accidential Truth: UFO Revelations by Ron James.
Here is a podcast interview with James:
- https://theunexplained.tv/episodes/edition-728-ron-james-exclusive

The Unexplained is excellent. The archives are incredible, including interviews with Travis Walton (very credible) and many military officials. Don't miss the Rendlesham Forest episodes (incidents occurred Dec 26 28 1980).

Recent Unexplained episodes worth checking out:
- https://theunexplained.tv/episodes/special-ralph-blumenthal-uap-breaking-news-june-5-2023
- https://theunexplained.tv/episodes/edition-723-gari-jones
jeffk
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Thank you for your service
Robert L. Peters
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I showed the kids the news report on Las Vegas. They slept together last night because they heard something outside.
What you say, Paper Champion? I'm gonna beat you like a dog, a dog, you hear me!
Brian Earl Spilner
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Not one person decided to film the aliens in Vegas. Mkay.
TCTTS
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Sh*t's getting weird…


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12175195/Crashed-UFO-recovered-military-distorted-space-time.html
redline248
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Is his lawyer named Sidney, by chance?
redline248
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Unnamed whistle blower
Lawyer says he's unable to provide evidence of claims

Yeah, I'm calling bogus
TCTTS
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It's The Daily Mail, so obviously take it all with a grain of salt. That said, Sheehan *is* legit/plugged in, and additional whistleblowers are apparently coming forward. If so, we'll know their names soon enough.
redline248
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Plugged into Luis Elizondo...

Why does everything keep coming back to this guy?
Rocagnante
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TCTTS said:

Sh*t's getting weird…


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12175195/Crashed-UFO-recovered-military-distorted-space-time.html


This is just some rehashed story that was first told in the 90's.
Rocagnante
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redline248 said:

Plugged into Luis Elizondo...

Why does everything keep coming back to this guy?


I'm there with you on Luis. He comes across as someone trying to sell tv shows. Has he been going on any paid speaking circuits?

If Luis' primary motivation is disclosure and the public has a right to know, then he needs to quit hiding behind his secrecy agreement and tell everything he knows, or go away.
G Martin 87
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Rocagnante said:

TCTTS said:

Sh*t's getting weird…


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12175195/Crashed-UFO-recovered-military-distorted-space-time.html


This is just some rehashed story that was first told in the 90's.
VR headsets do the same thing without breaking space time physics.
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There is no such thing as aliens or alien tech visiting our planet. That's ludicrous.

I would believe in anything else before aliens. Demons? Okay, makes more sense than aliens. Beings from another dimension? Sounds more likely than aliens. Survivors of a lost advanced human civilization? Way, way more likely than aliens. A secret group of hyper intelligent humans that have existed along side humanity (like Asimov's Foundation series)? It's easier to imagine that than aliens.

When the great announcement and unveiling happens I'll assume it's the governments of the world lying and trying to scare us yet again, just like climate change, Covid, bullcrap phony wars, etc., this is just another psyop…
Rocagnante
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Why do you put the probability of aliens at 0.0? Granted if the laws of physics as we understand them today can't be broken or manipulated then humanity is likely never leaving the solar system, but I don't think anyone can state that as an absolute just yet.
redline248
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Do not engage that guy, he is the biggest troll on these threads. Worse than Redstone
Redstone
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We are now in the lands of religion. If you're uncomfortable with that, maybe it's time to get more religious.

We have so many first-hand testimonies that point to the inter-dimensional nature of what's happening, even as the details are beyond our comprehension.

IMO They are not operating in our space-time BUT they can also do so, under certain conditions we cannot comprehend.

From my Catholic perspective, the principle is the same as entertaining angels aware, or even God (Logos - Order and Reason is a divine Person) taking human form.

This does not necessarily mean angel (a job description - messenger) or satan (accuser) but spiritual creations that can interact in the material world (humans are embodied spirits, strongly attached to the material, some more than others).

Please read Psalm 82, and also Heiser's summary of Elohim (God Incarnate) and elohims -

https://www.logos.com/grow/who-are-elohim/

https://www.docdroid.net/mZZGrH3/elohim-pdf
Redstone
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In a long historical view, the recent encounter phenomena may share continuity with preternatural experiences of the pre-modern era, such as encounters with a "faerie world"

Second, and related, how many "abductions" have been stopped by calling upon the name of Jesus? More than a few, I think - something also perhaps true of DMT-induced travelers to the worlds of "machine elves." Such a mystical world is, I believe, empirically verifiable in some cases, as a group of people on the same "trip" can describe, subjectively, what seems to be an objective, other-worldly reality.
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