G Martin 87 said:Except that Grusch's complaints under the whistleblower act were found to be credible by the IG, who has the clearances necessary to evaluate his case. The public has not seen what Grusch claims to have seen, but the people who are responsible for deciding whether Grusch has a legitimate whistleblower case have. The IG believes Grusch's claims are not baseless. So this situation is markedly different.oragator said:
This whole thing is a giant Rorschach test, people see what they want to see in Grusch. Heroic crusading whistleblower or crank, not much in between.
For me, as someone who would love for something tangible to be found, I still see "well I talked to a guy who", and not any actual evidence, which is always where we seem to be. Even built into his testimony was the standard plausible deniability, because these are off book and they don't write things down. So if they aren't found it is just more of the conspiracy,
And the same government that couldn't even keep Bin Laden's death a secret long enough for the president to announce it the same day could somehow keep this a secret across three generations, 13 presidents and who knows how many people who were read in.
Until all of that can be reconciled and there's real evidence, nothing is different than the last 75 years.
This.
Grusch not only provided exact locations of these craft/programs, along with the program names, and names of the various individuals heading them/working in them, the IG & co independently verified many of Grusch's claims though additional sources/whistleblowers.
Again, the web that would have had to be weaved in order to credibly deceive this many high-level officials would be a conspiracy on the level of a UAP coverup itself. Basically, you have to believe one crazy conspiracy theory or the other.
All I know is that we're not even close to "where we always seem to be," and this *is* different than anything in the last 75 years. Granted, what happens from here, and how long any of it takes, is anyone's guess.
