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The last scene where Harper and Petra's new fund was meeting with Eric and Yas was freaking awesome TV. I'm not the biggest Harper fan.. and have been happy with the direction of the show (Harper not so much the leading character).. but that scene was fire. The way she spoke to Eric and pointing out the glitter on his face.. I had to rewatch it twice to get the full depth out of that scene.


I realize this probably throws Harper back more in a lead character role. But that dynamic between pierpoint and this new fund will be interesting going forward.


Hands down one of the best on tv right now.
This episode felt the most like Succession that they've made so far. Lots of angles being played by the characters and also a decent bit of comedy sprinkled in as well. It definitely felt like Eric was setup by the board to look foolish at the conference and be a fall guy. They had to know what was coming, outside of what Harper pulled anyway, but what she said basically confirmed it. If Pierpoint was such a believer in Lume, why was no one higher speaking at the conference?

I do wonder what they do with Kit Harrington's character now that they've basically confirmed Lume is going to fail as he's going to unload his stock before it goes to zero. This episode did pretty much prove my theory that he's a well-connected screw up who isn't taken seriously. He's close personal friends with that a-hole from the plane who openly said he was going to DJ at the hotel his parents own. Given his question to Yas I think it's pretty clear there's questions as to whether she possibly killed him as was previously theorized.

Anyway, really enjoying this show. Looks like next week we get the Rishi-focused episode which has to be a wild ride.
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Seems the switch to Sunday nights is working even better than expected...

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Last night's episode was stressful AF, it was basically like rewatching Uncut Gems.
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I had to turn it off after he goes back the second time. Too much stress.
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Very interesting and entertaining "side" episode that gives us a lot of insight into Rishis nature. What a wild ride. Hopefully it ties in somewhere down the road this season as it looks like it's back to Lumi next week.
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Feel like they've really lost where they are going this season. The episodes aren't terrible, but there is no direction. Definitely a big step down from the previous two seasons, IMO.
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No offense, but I don't think I've ever disagreed more on this board with an opinion about a season of television. Because, four episodes in, this is some of the best TV I've seen in years.

I don't understand what it is you think they've lost or how there's no direction. IMO, if anything, this is easily the most focused, connected season of the series so far. Not just plot-wise, but especially thematically, as they've gone all in, four episodes in a row now, on showing a bunch of broken, ****ed up boys trying their best to be men - or at least their sad, pathetic idea of what a man is - and failing miserably.

With this episode, in particular, underlining that particular theme; yet another mini-movie that would easily be in my top five movies of the year so far.

Holy *****

What an Emmy-level performance by Sagar Radia. Uncut Gems, indeed.

Personally, I continue to be in absolute awe of this season - with four-for-four absolute heaters - and I cannot wait for the back half now.

To each his own, but this was the last thing I expected to read in this thread.
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Great episode. I love the themes in this show about men and broken men and growing up all while dealing with the stress of life. I do not believe in watching previews so I assume the next episode is going to get back in with Harper while exploring the continuing mystery with Yaz. I do love the character of Rob and I hope he is folded in a bit more.
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Episode was phenomenal, albeit incredibly stressful, more stressful than I typically enjoy for an episode of TV lol

Loved the focus on Rish. What a ****ty home life he has, and no one to blame for it but himself. He's an extreme caricature of the high finance types I've been exposed to in my life

Rob is the only sane one, and he's also ****ed up
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Ghost of Bisbee said:

Episode was phenomenal, albeit incredibly stressful, more stressful than I typically enjoy for an episode of TV lol

Loved the focus on Rish. What a ****ty home life he has, and no one to blame for it but himself. He's an extreme caricature of the high finance types I've been exposed to in my life

Rob is the only sane one, and he's also ****ed up
Rob is trying to keep it all together. The death of the lady, the "controlled" drinking, the new found maturity, the Lumi situation. I have a feeling he is going to have an epic meltdown.
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VP at Pierce and Pierce said:

Ghost of Bisbee said:

Episode was phenomenal, albeit incredibly stressful, more stressful than I typically enjoy for an episode of TV lol

Loved the focus on Rish. What a ****ty home life he has, and no one to blame for it but himself. He's an extreme caricature of the high finance types I've been exposed to in my life

Rob is the only sane one, and he's also ****ed up
Rob is trying to keep it all together. The death of the lady, the "controlled" drinking, the new found maturity, the Lumi situation. I have a feeling he is going to have an epic meltdown.
Rob is the most interesting guy on the show to me, at least since Gus is gone, specifically because he seems to be the only one that exhibits any kind of moral compass. He sticks out in that regard compared to everyone else. He's a poor kid that went to Oxford and found himself in high finance but he also hasn't completely assimilated either. He saw Clement hide everything about himself, going so far as to change his accent, to blend in with this group and ultimately die alone. Feels like he's going to be put in a corner to choose between his morals or capitulate to the company. Perhaps we find out while delving further into the Lumi collapse. He's still an outsider and feels like an easy target to take a fall, especially as the middle man between Pier Point and Lumi. I would think a big test is coming his way.
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TCTTS said:

No offense, but I don't think I've ever disagreed more on this board with an opinion about a season of television. Because, four episodes in, this is some of the best TV I've seen in years.

I don't understand what it is you think they've lost or how there's no direction. IMO, if anything, this is easily the most focused, connected season of the series so far. Not just plot-wise, but especially thematically, as they've gone all in, four episodes in a row now, on showing a bunch of broken, ****ed up boys trying their best to be men - or at least their sad, pathetic idea of what a man is - and failing miserably.

With this episode, in particular, underlining that particular theme; yet another mini-movie that would easily be in my top five movies of the year so far.

Holy *****

What an Emmy-level performance by Sagar Radia. Uncut Gems, indeed.

Personally, I continue to be in absolute awe of this season - with four-for-four absolute heaters - and I cannot wait for the back half now.

To each his own, but this was the last thing I expected to read in this thread.
But that's precisely my point: 4 episodes showing broken dudes isn't a narrative. It's an overarching theme but that's not a plot. And yes, it was a mini movie about a character that has been a side note this entire show and now out of nowhere has an entire episode devoted to him. The center of this show for two seasons was Harper and it's not like we've gotten resolution no ANY of her story lines but they've just simply moved on to other things.

Its fine if you like it and if it resonates with you but as a cohesive show with two seasons with a pretty well defined plot and central character this third season is a complete deviation from that. It's got the same characters and setting but it's very much not the same show we saw in the first two seasons. I didn't expect mini movies from a show that had a clear direction. What is the direction now? The big caveat is that we've still got a lot of season to go, but nothing about the first four episodes makes me believe they had a direction narratively.

And sure, its like succession in that its focus is rich broken people but Succession was ALWAYS taking us in a direction and it never deviated from that.
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I seriously feel like we're watching two completely different shows...

- IMO, even outside of the thematic elements, the Lumi plot line has been hyper-focused, extremely well defined, and has provided the strongest connective tissue of any season so far. Episode two picked up literally the second episode one ended, and completed a damn near perfect, two-episode story arc with a clear beginning, middle, and end. Then episode three built off that story, upping the stakes and taking the action to the climate conference in Switzerland, where all characters were thrown together in expert, organic fashion, with a killer ending to boot.

- Yes, episode four was a diversion character-wise, but plot-wise it was a direct follow up to the Lumi fallout from episode three. Also, shows have taken a single-episode "breaks" to focus on a single side character for years. To that end, Rishi has always been a fun character and I can't image not wanting to find out more about his life, especially in the manner they delivered two nights ago. Personally, I loved his particular diversion so, so much, and I'm now far more invested in his character going forward. Why is that a bad thing?

- As for Harper, I don't understand what "resolution" you're looking for, seeing as we're smack dab in the middle of the series run (with I'm guessing has at least a season or two left), and it's clear that she's just been elevated once more opposite Eric. As has been expressed by a few posters now, her character was really starting to wear thin, and she's such a sociopath that she became hard to root for. But by taking her off the board and "sidelining" her for a couple of episodes, then slingshotting her directly opposite Eric at the end of episode three, I'm now more interested - and excited - to follow her story than ever. I honestly think it was genius how they pulled that off, and was so exciting because it's something we hadn't ever seen before. In other words, it wasn't aimless at all - rather, it had clear intention/direction, while also allowing us to get to know Yas, Rob, Rishi, etc better in the process.

I don't know, I just find every single season three decision so far to one-up every previous thrilling decision that came before it, to the point where it feels like the filmmakers have command of the material in a way they've never had before. They're taking big swings and risking convention to such incredible results that I can't imagine wanting them to have told the story so far any other way.
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Just popping in to say I started this show about two weeks ago and watched the season 3 premier tonight

This is the best show on television. It's ****ing awesome.


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That episode was definitely like uncut gems. Awesome. Heart was racing the entire time.
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Man, what an odd episode, even before the ayahuasca
trip + Yaz's out-of-no-where admission. It was all just so weirdly paced and edited, while a lot of the dialogue was incredibly on-the-nose/felt as if it was written by a junior staffer; like someone who knew the plot and characters well but had never actually written for the show. The way seemingly every last character was suddenly introspective and said exactly what they were feeling/thinking just felt so… off. Ultimately resulting in the first miss of the season for me. Which, admittedly, is still better than 95% of everything else on TV.
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TCTTS said:

Man, what an odd episode, even before the ayahuasca
trip + Yaz's out-of-no-where admission. It was all just so weirdly paced and edited, while a lot of the dialogue was incredibly on-the-nose/felt as if it was written by a junior staffer; like someone who knew the plot and characters well but had never actually written for the show. The way seemingly every last character was suddenly introspective and said exactly what they were feeling/thinking just felt so… off. Ultimately resulting in the first miss of the season for me. Which, admittedly, is still better than 95% of everything else on TV.
LOL, this was easily my favorite episode of the season as they finally are bringing these disparate threads together in a real direction that is more aligned with what the show had been saying in the first two seasons.

You and I have completely opposite reactions to this show.
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TCTTS said:

Man, what an odd episode, even before the ayahuasca
trip + Yaz's out-of-no-where admission. It was all just so weirdly paced and edited, while a lot of the dialogue was incredibly on-the-nose/felt as if it was written by a junior staffer; like someone who knew the plot and characters well but had never actually written for the show. The way seemingly every last character was suddenly introspective and said exactly what they were feeling/thinking just felt so… off. Ultimately resulting in the first miss of the season for me. Which, admittedly, is still better than 95% of everything else on TV.
I agree, but still enjoyed the episode. The entire sequence with Robert's testimony and the secretary of state just resigning from her post at the end, it just didn't work for me. Robert is obviously confused and has been setup by Pierpoint as a fall guy, but at the same time he also didn't hang Henry out to dry when he was told by the firm that would help take the heat off just to ultimately find himself in some very elite company. I'm curious where this takes him, he's obviously thinking about leaving Pierpoint and some powerful people know him to be trustworthy and he knows to keep his mouth shut when the pressure is on. There was just a little bit too much of looking behind the curtain too quickly for me. Yaz's very oddly timed admission as well didn't really fit for me either.

To me it felt like they lifted a fair amount from some movies I enjoy. The scene with Sweetpea and Eric was basically a ripoff of Margin Call when Zachary Quinto discovers the bottom is about to fall out of the housing market. When Robert asks the attorney if he's Pierpoint's attorney or his reminded me of The Social Network when Eduardo was tricked into diluting his shares by Facebook's attorney.

Since I referened it, if anyone who's enjoying this show hasn't seen Margin Call I highly recommond it. Really intriguing look at the night an analyst at one of the big banks discovers the housing market is going to crash and what happens that night to prepare for it. Incredible cast and really well done, it's kind of the flip side of The Big Short but it's not comedic and it's just stressful.
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I enjoy this show, but it is starting to feel like a BBC version of Succession and other things like Margin Call.
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So many of the scenes were so on-the-nose in their replication of other shows/movies that it almost seemed like they were doing it intentionally.

Also, some producer or higher-up in the writer's room has a golden shower kink and is trying to normalize it.
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Just finished the last episode.

Agreed that the hearing was poorly setup and shot and the "behind the curtain" scene where all the fat cats who really run the British government are yucking it up was just silly.

Adler's relationship with Eric is always a bit confusing as well.

Very odd episode that did advance the plot but was a bit of a chore to get through.

edit...forgot to mention how obnoxious and contrived the bathroom scene was. Super convenient that the one time Harper comes to that office in a year or so is when the two ladies decide to chat about all the dirty laundry at the company.
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I really enjoyed the episode. Rob is the best character on the show, Muck is great at providing just enough honesty to keep everyone in his corner. Another episode where Harper is only in one or two scenes. I'm not sure why Eric was crying, but I assume it was a stress reaction to an emotional day just like Yaz blurting that out. Rob sure deals with a lot and seems to be the one that has the ability at times to handle anything in front of him.
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So, that wasn't butter sauce on the bathroom wall at Smith and Wollensky after all
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So I got a chance to check out last night's episode and it feels like they're making how this season ends up too cut and dry to me. I will say I am confused about what the old man/publisher was trying to say to Yas between her father and Henry. I'm sure there's something I missed but I just got lost when he was talking.

Are we to expect that it's just that easy for Leviathan to predict and profit off PierPoints impending demise? Harper hears something in the bathroom and it turns out PierPoint is ultimately leveraged at least 3X more than all the other banks and per the next week's trailer needs $15B in cash to stay afload? Leviathan just reaps a fortune and PierPoint is gone just like that? Also how did Leviathan even get meetings with those banks to get the companies that easily? Everyone would know Leviathan is bearish on all ESG stocks and has no interest in buying any of their positions. Hell they even said so at meeting after meeting, so why did the meetings even take place? Consider me a skeptic but a lot of this episode felt a bit sloppy to me. I can only believethere's a big pivot coming that we don't see coming, that's my hope, do something fun with the chaos. The thing that gives me pause is how big the number is, and if this is a bailout it'll just be lazy writing so I'm optimistic they don't do that.
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Yeah, the Big Short plot point is annoying. I wish Harper had jumped off the boat as well.
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Not sure how I felt about the ending of this episode. Not sure how I felt about the entire episode honestly. I cannot figure out Eric and what his intentions are with anyone. And I dont know that Yas played either of those convos correctly, both of the people she was talking to have helped her quite a bit and now she is SOL.
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Harper is a sociopath. Eric was sort of the sociopath mentor. I sympathize with Yas because she's been royally screwed up since birth by a sociopath in her dad, and keeps trusting other sociopaths. The end was her realizing that, and Harper full on responds by confirming it by spewing all of the same hateful things her dad did. They have mostly only "helped" her because there has always been something in it for them.
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DannyDuberstein said:

Harper is a sociopath. Eric was sort of the sociopath mentor. I sympathize with Yas because she's been royally screwed up since birth by a sociopath in her dad, and keeps trusting other sociopaths. The end was her realizing that, and Harper full on responds by confirming it by spewing all of the same hateful things her dad did. They have mostly only "helped" her because there has always been something in it for them.
That is a good summary. There will be some sort of big twist coming right?
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DannyDuberstein said:

Harper is a sociopath. Eric was sort of the sociopath mentor. I sympathize with Yas because she's been royally screwed up since birth by a sociopath in her dad, and keeps trusting other sociopaths. The end was her realizing that, and Harper full on responds by confirming it by spewing all of the same hateful things her dad did. They have mostly only "helped" her because there has always been something in it for them.
Everyone is a sociopath, even their "friendships" have no meaning to them. Harper tries to protect Yas for about 5 seconds from Petra, and the only thing she did to try to stand on that was take information she didn't even have full context on to throw it in Petra's face. When Yas calls her out she goes nuclear on Yas. This is Harper's MO and why I dislike her so much as a character.
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The Eric hitting on Yas part of the episode seemed to come out of nowhere (no pun intended) and was just bizarre. Didn't love the episode and don't love the direction they seem to be taking at the end of this season. But I'll trust that they will someone wrap it up in a way that works.
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mavsfan4ever said:

The Eric hitting on Yas part of the episode seemed to come out of nowhere (no pun intended) and was just bizarre. Didn't love the episode and don't love the direction they seem to be taking at the end of this season. But I'll trust that they will someone wrap it up in a way that works.
Yea the Eric scenes there were strange. Not sure if they are subtly trying to show his drinking his impairing his judgement or something darker.
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Max Power said:

So I got a chance to check out last night's episode and it feels like they're making how this season ends up too cut and dry to me. I will say I am confused about what the old man/publisher was trying to say to Yas between her father and Henry. I'm sure there's something I missed but I just got lost when he was talking.

Are we to expect that it's just that easy for Leviathan to predict and profit off PierPoints impending demise? Harper hears something in the bathroom and it turns out PierPoint is ultimately leveraged at least 3X more than all the other banks and per the next week's trailer needs $15B in cash to stay afload? Leviathan just reaps a fortune and PierPoint is gone just like that? Also how did Leviathan even get meetings with those banks to get the companies that easily? Everyone would know Leviathan is bearish on all ESG stocks and has no interest in buying any of their positions. Hell they even said so at meeting after meeting, so why did the meetings even take place? Consider me a skeptic but a lot of this episode felt a bit sloppy to me. I can only believethere's a big pivot coming that we don't see coming, that's my hope, do something fun with the chaos. The thing that gives me pause is how big the number is, and if this is a bailout it'll just be lazy writing so I'm optimistic they don't do that.

He told Yasmin that his newspaper has a story from a witness on the boat that contradicts hers. I don't know to what degree, but the old man (Henry's uncle) basically said he'd spike/withhold the story in exchange for Yasmin cozying up to Henry again, who's somewhat aimless/down in the dumps at the moment, and basically being his concubine. Now that she has no job, no father, and seemingly no prospects, my guess is Yasmin takes the old man up on the offer - or at least heavily considers it - but we'll see.
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That's what I gathered as well.

Although I'm not sure why he thinks Yaz cozying up with Henry would improve the situation. She's as big a trainwreck as him.
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Diggity said:

That's what I gathered as well.

Although I'm not sure why he thinks Yaz cozying up with Henry would improve the situation. She's as big a trainwreck as him.
He probably just wants to see Henry happy and moving forward after his trauma.
 
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