I think that's going to increase as various arcs come together. For the overwhelming majority of viewers this story is going to have to be set up as to who is who. I definitely think the back half of season one is going to start getting really interesting.
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I thought the third episode was the best one yet. Solid action, we're getting more backstory to these characters and getting to see some cool players. The cinematography in the show continues to be stunning also. Numenor was awesome.
But yes, that slo-mo horse scene was quite possibly the worst of the show.
I think Halbrand will end up as one of the Nazgl, possibly the witch king. Or he could also be the king of the dead.
And I think the mystery man being a blue wizard seems most likely so far. Hopefully they move that plot along a little faster next week.
But yes, that slo-mo horse scene was quite possibly the worst of the show.
I think Halbrand will end up as one of the Nazgl, possibly the witch king. Or he could also be the king of the dead.
And I think the mystery man being a blue wizard seems most likely so far. Hopefully they move that plot along a little faster next week.
Thought this was the best episode yet. I even liked the slo-mo scene. Worst part by far was again the Harfoots. Scenery/effects and music were great.
Kind of surprised to not hear more about the rings or the making of them yet (other than the forge). I know a little about their creation history but won't say here to avoid spoilers. What I'm not aware of though is the timeline for that vs where this show is at in time now.
Kind of surprised to not hear more about the rings or the making of them yet (other than the forge). I know a little about their creation history but won't say here to avoid spoilers. What I'm not aware of though is the timeline for that vs where this show is at in time now.
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Ben Franklin
I think you need to take the Tolkien timeline and set it aside for this show.
Definitely most interesting episode yet.
I know nothing of the lore and have read very little about this show and for some reason thought this show was set even further in the past and was kind of surprised to hear Isildurs name. He also seems like he's 20 already and he is supposed to become King of Gondor and fight off Sauron within what seems like a short timeline now?
Also where is the climax of the final season of the show? Do they remake the perfection that is the opening to the fellowship of the ring?
I know nothing of the lore and have read very little about this show and for some reason thought this show was set even further in the past and was kind of surprised to hear Isildurs name. He also seems like he's 20 already and he is supposed to become King of Gondor and fight off Sauron within what seems like a short timeline now?
Also where is the climax of the final season of the show? Do they remake the perfection that is the opening to the fellowship of the ring?
Agreed. The harfoot storyline with the mysterious "giant" just isn't doing anything for me at this point.FightinTexasAg15 said:
And I think the mystery man being a blue wizard seems most likely so far. Hopefully they move that plot along a little faster next week.
Overall, a really solid episode. They're setting up a lot of mysteries. With the dwarves and whatever was in the box. With the mysterious giant. With Halbrand. With the end of this episode and the Numenorean queen. I'm really intrigued to see how all of these are going to tie together.
They either end it right as the Last Alliance is marching on Mordor, or with Isildur cutting off the ring.
Which could still be 40 years from the time of this show. The Numenoreans had long lives...and I think even Aragron was like in his 60s in Return of the King. Not 100% sure
Which could still be 40 years from the time of this show. The Numenoreans had long lives...and I think even Aragron was like in his 60s in Return of the King. Not 100% sure
redline248 said:
They either end it right as the Last Alliance is marching on Mordor, or with Isildur cutting off the ring.
Which could still be 40 years from the time of this show. The Numenoreans had long lives...and I think even Aragron was like in his 60s in Return of the King. Not 100% sure
In the extended edition I think he says he is 82, I guess I didn't think about that they all live really long because they share the same blood as him. A gift from the elves somehow?
Their first king is Elrond's brother who chose to be mortal...so yeah
Hmm...I'm not gonna lie...I'm torn after this episode. The episode was great, the acting and scripts are great, the scenery and CGI were terrific...but the Harfoots, man. I'm still kinda bored with them, and I'm starting to get pissed off when we spend that much time and just barely move the story of the mystery man forward. We're almost halfway through the season and we've barely moved the needle there.
But like I said previously, I REALLY wish they would have decided to just tell a completely different story with original characters in this world that we do not have definitive storylines for. As has been alluded, this episode completely demolishes the second age timeline. Numenor does not become hostile to the elves until well after the War of the Elves and Sauron, which is triggered by the forging of the rings of power. As the rings have not been forged yet, Numenor should still be friendly to the elves, otherwise why would they come riding to the rescue to save Gil-Galad and Elrond?. And while I know that the timeline pretty much had to be compressed, geez, this just frustrates me to no end. It creates a tension for me, because I know what the books say, and therefore that's what my brain expects, and when it doesn't happen my little brain goes "NO YOU SONS OF HARLOTS, THAT'S WRONG!!!" At this point, it actually makes me a bit more concerned that they're going to really deviate from what Tolkien wrote, and I'm not convinced they're good enough writers yet to pull that off. This thing could still turn into a beautiful trainwreck.
A few other thoughts
- Given that we're chucking time to the side, I really think meteor dude is Gandalf. I wish he wasn't, but we're seeing someone with magical powers, long grey hair (Gandalf the Grey), and we know that by the Hobbit he is very fond of Hobbits. Why is he so fond of Hobbits? Well, if one of them (or a pair if you want to count Poppy) saved his life when he showed up in Middle Earth, not to mention let him live among them assuming nothing bad happens to Nori and her family, I suppose he'd be pretty fond of the bunch.
- They are trying too damned hard with the misdirection on who is actually Sauron. Halbrand is not Sauron. Pretty sure Adar is, it would actually still fit within what Tolkien wrote if that even matters at this point. That said, I think Halbrand will turn out to be one of the Nazgul. There is actually one that has a name, and we know him to be a king from the east. Maybe that's what Halbrand turns into?
- My gosh Numenor was beautiful. Really nice architectural tie-ins with Gondor. Hope we get to see more.
Overall, I'm still entertained and onboard with the show, even though I'm more concerned now about how far we're going to deviate from Tolkien in terms of storyline. Far more annoying is the continued physical abuse of dead horses on this thread. And you know exactly who you are. Knock it off.
But like I said previously, I REALLY wish they would have decided to just tell a completely different story with original characters in this world that we do not have definitive storylines for. As has been alluded, this episode completely demolishes the second age timeline. Numenor does not become hostile to the elves until well after the War of the Elves and Sauron, which is triggered by the forging of the rings of power. As the rings have not been forged yet, Numenor should still be friendly to the elves, otherwise why would they come riding to the rescue to save Gil-Galad and Elrond?. And while I know that the timeline pretty much had to be compressed, geez, this just frustrates me to no end. It creates a tension for me, because I know what the books say, and therefore that's what my brain expects, and when it doesn't happen my little brain goes "NO YOU SONS OF HARLOTS, THAT'S WRONG!!!" At this point, it actually makes me a bit more concerned that they're going to really deviate from what Tolkien wrote, and I'm not convinced they're good enough writers yet to pull that off. This thing could still turn into a beautiful trainwreck.
A few other thoughts
- Given that we're chucking time to the side, I really think meteor dude is Gandalf. I wish he wasn't, but we're seeing someone with magical powers, long grey hair (Gandalf the Grey), and we know that by the Hobbit he is very fond of Hobbits. Why is he so fond of Hobbits? Well, if one of them (or a pair if you want to count Poppy) saved his life when he showed up in Middle Earth, not to mention let him live among them assuming nothing bad happens to Nori and her family, I suppose he'd be pretty fond of the bunch.
- They are trying too damned hard with the misdirection on who is actually Sauron. Halbrand is not Sauron. Pretty sure Adar is, it would actually still fit within what Tolkien wrote if that even matters at this point. That said, I think Halbrand will turn out to be one of the Nazgul. There is actually one that has a name, and we know him to be a king from the east. Maybe that's what Halbrand turns into?
- My gosh Numenor was beautiful. Really nice architectural tie-ins with Gondor. Hope we get to see more.
Overall, I'm still entertained and onboard with the show, even though I'm more concerned now about how far we're going to deviate from Tolkien in terms of storyline. Far more annoying is the continued physical abuse of dead horses on this thread. And you know exactly who you are. Knock it off.
I am thinking that meteor man is Gandalf as well. Timing isn't right, but the hobbit connection/affinity pulls me to a Gandalf/Olorin origin story.
I would also speculate that Bilbo & Frodo are decendents of Nori which is why Gandalf knows those two would take up an adventure. Gandalf possibly visited the hobbits to keep track of that line in case that type of spirit was needed again.
I would also speculate that Bilbo & Frodo are decendents of Nori which is why Gandalf knows those two would take up an adventure. Gandalf possibly visited the hobbits to keep track of that line in case that type of spirit was needed again.
The only character in this entire inclusion-fest that finally seemed to be a good casting/portrayal was Elendil, for me. The actor did a great job of portraying him in a noble fashion and the only believable Numenorean we were presented with. However, we are always presented with this idea of the Numenoreans being a noble race of men... yet again, they're just presented as normal people. I guess I shouldn't have expected more than that, with the version of the elves we are getting. They could have at least spent some of that budget to make them seem taller or something.
Again, we are given an Island that has been isolated for so long... and it looks like you're in a modern American city. It's just so goofy and makes the narrative suffer. Take the Harfoots, for example. I still don't know if the black lady is Nori's mom or stepmom. I look at them and assume she must be her stepmom.
Also, again, it just bothers me how Galadriel is already... what? 1,000 years old? And yet, she acts like a 15 year old high school girl.
I'll give it another episode or two to get me, but i'm just finding myself more disappointed than anything. House of the Dragon is far superior, so far. And neither of them comes close to GoT, and i'm not even a reader of A Song of Ice and Fire. More so, it makes me scared for when they ever adapt some of my favorite authors, like Sanderson.
Again, we are given an Island that has been isolated for so long... and it looks like you're in a modern American city. It's just so goofy and makes the narrative suffer. Take the Harfoots, for example. I still don't know if the black lady is Nori's mom or stepmom. I look at them and assume she must be her stepmom.
Also, again, it just bothers me how Galadriel is already... what? 1,000 years old? And yet, she acts like a 15 year old high school girl.
I'll give it another episode or two to get me, but i'm just finding myself more disappointed than anything. House of the Dragon is far superior, so far. And neither of them comes close to GoT, and i'm not even a reader of A Song of Ice and Fire. More so, it makes me scared for when they ever adapt some of my favorite authors, like Sanderson.
I was reading through the thread for this show on Surly and one of them made a smart ass remark, to the effect that he imagined the TexAgs thread would be melting down over all the racial diversity/inclusion in the show, which I figured was just projection. And then... I read this thread. ****.
I understand most of you aren't enjoying the Harfeet but I'm loving them.
I love how they disguise/camouflage themselves. Biggest laugh I've had yet was when meteor man stumbled into revealing himself, and when he popped his head out of the covering it was like, "Oh **** where'd they go?" Absolutely brilliant.
I don't know if Halbrand is Voldemort, but if he is, who the hell is Adar? And why did they blur his face? Is he an elf we've already met in the earlier episodes?
I agree that if Halbrand is *not* Sauron (yes I was joking about he who must not be named) they're trying to make us suspect he is, but it seems they like they want us to know they're trying to make us think he is, so that we'll think he's not, so that he totally can be, and we wouldn't know.
Simple.
I understand most of you aren't enjoying the Harfeet but I'm loving them.
I love how they disguise/camouflage themselves. Biggest laugh I've had yet was when meteor man stumbled into revealing himself, and when he popped his head out of the covering it was like, "Oh **** where'd they go?" Absolutely brilliant.
I don't know if Halbrand is Voldemort, but if he is, who the hell is Adar? And why did they blur his face? Is he an elf we've already met in the earlier episodes?
I agree that if Halbrand is *not* Sauron (yes I was joking about he who must not be named) they're trying to make us suspect he is, but it seems they like they want us to know they're trying to make us think he is, so that we'll think he's not, so that he totally can be, and we wouldn't know.
Simple.
The clumsiness of the Stranger gave me flashbacks to Gandalf hitting his head in Bag End, so IMO it's gotta be Gandalf.AgE2theBONE said:
I was reading through the thread for this show on Surly and one of them made a smart ass remark, to the effect that he imagined the TexAgs thread would be melting down over all the racial diversity/inclusion in the show, which I figured was just projection. And then... I read this thread. ****.
I understand most of you aren't enjoying the Harfeet but I'm loving them.
I love how they disguise/camouflage themselves. Biggest laugh I've had yet was when meteor man stumbled into revealing himself, and when he popped his head out of the covering it was like, "Oh **** where'd they go?" Absolutely brilliant.
I don't know if Halbrand is Voldemort, but if he is, who the hell is Adar? And why did they blur his face? Is he an elf we've already met in the earlier episodes?
I agree that if Halbrand is *not* Sauron (yes I was joking about he who must not be named) they're trying to make us suspect he is, but it seems they like they want us to know they're trying to make us think he is, so that we'll think he's not, so that he totally can be, and we wouldn't know.
Simple.
Someone between Adar and Halbrand is fakeout, and my gut says Adar is the fakeout.
I think you're referring to Khamul, the Easterling king, but forget that guy.Maximus_Meridius said:
- They are trying too damned hard with the misdirection on who is actually Sauron. Halbrand is not Sauron. Pretty sure Adar is, it would actually still fit within what Tolkien wrote if that even matters at this point. That said, I think Halbrand will turn out to be one of the Nazgul. There is actually one that has a name, and we know him to be a king from the east. Maybe that's what Halbrand turns into?
What if Halbrand is the Witch King?
Again, timelines out the window, but that dude is from the north in a yet to be established realm. Or, at least, he should be.
give it a freaking restDallasTeleAg said:
The only character in this entire inclusion-fest that finally seemed to be a good casting/portrayal was Elendil, for me. The actor did a great job of portraying him in a noble fashion and the only believable Numenorean we were presented with. However, we are always presented with this idea of the Numenoreans being a noble race of men... yet again, they're just presented as normal people. I guess I shouldn't have expected more than that, with the version of the elves we are getting. They could have at least spent some of that budget to make them seem taller or something.
Again, we are given an Island that has been isolated for so long... and it looks like you're in a modern American city. It's just so goofy and makes the narrative suffer. Take the Harfoots, for example. I still don't know if the black lady is Nori's mom or stepmom. I look at them and assume she must be her stepmom.
Also, again, it just bothers me how Galadriel is already... what? 1,000 years old? And yet, she acts like a 15 year old high school girl.
I'll give it another episode or two to get me, but i'm just finding myself more disappointed than anything. House of the Dragon is far superior, so far. And neither of them comes close to GoT, and i'm not even a reader of A Song of Ice and Fire. More so, it makes me scared for when they ever adapt some of my favorite authors, like Sanderson.
canadiaggie said:I think you're referring to Khamul, the Easterling king, but forget that guy.Maximus_Meridius said:
- They are trying too damned hard with the misdirection on who is actually Sauron. Halbrand is not Sauron. Pretty sure Adar is, it would actually still fit within what Tolkien wrote if that even matters at this point. That said, I think Halbrand will turn out to be one of the Nazgul. There is actually one that has a name, and we know him to be a king from the east. Maybe that's what Halbrand turns into?
What if Halbrand is the Witch King?
The way they set it up, and since LOTR is usually a feel good story more or less, not sure about that. Halbrand seems like the picture perfect cursed blood fallen on hard times who redeems himself. Now if this was Game of Thrones, yeah Halbrand would be earmarked to turn into the Witch King.
But yeah, I'm really looking forward to how the Witch King of Angmar comes to be, probably in the later seasons.
What if Halbrand ends up becoming one of the kings of men who are tempted by one of the nine rings?
chase128 said:
What if Halbrand ends up becoming one of the kings of men who are tempted by one of the nine rings?
That would be a cool ending if the close is the creation of the Nazgul.
So list style article came across my Facebook feed about the show. This was interesting, but given the source it should be taken with a grain of salt obviously. Or maybe it's something everybody knew already and I missed.
I really liked a couple of parts of that episode, but a couple of others really dragged. I won't touch on the Harfoots much because everyone else has, but yeah, when you've got Numenor and a slave revolt waiting for you, the "can your ankle heal to make the journey" plot line is pretty dull. And they're all best friends, but if you fall behind, burn in hell apparently. At this point I'd agree that it seems unlikely the stranger is anything but Gandalf, which is blah.
I also was in snooze land for much of single dad Elendil. Other than revealing he and Isildur's names, that was a pretty convoluted discussion at the dinner table.
I'm sure someone else noticed it and probably already said it, but the closed captions say that Numenorean queen's main advisor guy is Ar-Pharazon, who is King when Sauron corrupts him and convinces him to attack Valinor.
I realize that Sauron's identity, given that he's the deceiver, is going to be a mystery for a bit, but having multiple characters that I don't know who they are, is not great TV- who is arda really, who is the stranger really, who is hallbrand really - eventually it's too many people that I'm having to watch their scenes without knowing who the hell they are. Could he be powerful enough to be in two places at one and be both Hallbrand and Arda? And why choose Arda as a name, is it reference to Arda Marred following the war between Valar anD Melkor?
On the positives, as many have said Numeanor's reveal was beyond incredible. It seems like a slam dunk victory for this show's production people to win every Emmy there is for design. I love how much is going on in the background of every scene, all of the people look (or are) real and doing things that make it look like a living, breathing city. The Hall of Lore was great as well, although Elendil would appear to be a huge moron thinking he can just take the Elf out of the city and not get in trouble.
The action piece at the end was some of the best stuff I've seen on TV In forever. And for probably the first time in my life, I enjoyed the slow-mo action stuff because it feels like a great way to showcase that Elves are really bad-ass and can do things that normal folk can't. Incredible how they use their chains vs. the Orcs. Incredible how well designed the Orcs are so that you can immediately tell one from another. Incredible how they played the gift of water scene. Warg CGI didn't look great from a distance, but it was scary as hell up close. But the ultimate takeaway is that through 3 episodes, Arondir is the star of this show and Ismael Cruz Cordova should probably turn into a giant star after this, because he is a bad ass.
I also was in snooze land for much of single dad Elendil. Other than revealing he and Isildur's names, that was a pretty convoluted discussion at the dinner table.
I'm sure someone else noticed it and probably already said it, but the closed captions say that Numenorean queen's main advisor guy is Ar-Pharazon, who is King when Sauron corrupts him and convinces him to attack Valinor.
I realize that Sauron's identity, given that he's the deceiver, is going to be a mystery for a bit, but having multiple characters that I don't know who they are, is not great TV- who is arda really, who is the stranger really, who is hallbrand really - eventually it's too many people that I'm having to watch their scenes without knowing who the hell they are. Could he be powerful enough to be in two places at one and be both Hallbrand and Arda? And why choose Arda as a name, is it reference to Arda Marred following the war between Valar anD Melkor?
On the positives, as many have said Numeanor's reveal was beyond incredible. It seems like a slam dunk victory for this show's production people to win every Emmy there is for design. I love how much is going on in the background of every scene, all of the people look (or are) real and doing things that make it look like a living, breathing city. The Hall of Lore was great as well, although Elendil would appear to be a huge moron thinking he can just take the Elf out of the city and not get in trouble.
The action piece at the end was some of the best stuff I've seen on TV In forever. And for probably the first time in my life, I enjoyed the slow-mo action stuff because it feels like a great way to showcase that Elves are really bad-ass and can do things that normal folk can't. Incredible how they use their chains vs. the Orcs. Incredible how well designed the Orcs are so that you can immediately tell one from another. Incredible how they played the gift of water scene. Warg CGI didn't look great from a distance, but it was scary as hell up close. But the ultimate takeaway is that through 3 episodes, Arondir is the star of this show and Ismael Cruz Cordova should probably turn into a giant star after this, because he is a bad ass.
My one minor gripe with the elves being enslaved is...I don't see how Arondir escapes. And the dude that got up the ledge only to be killed by an unseen archer..? IDK, not my favorite way to handle that, I guess
I don't think they are setting up misdirection. Just don't get that feel. Halbrand is future king of men, likely to get a ring. And Adar? You really need a tip on him?
Agree that Galadriel is way too youthful/impulsive/etc. But then again, she's been hunting Sauron in the wilds the past 100 years, so maybe she's forgotten her manners.
Agree that Galadriel is way too youthful/impulsive/etc. But then again, she's been hunting Sauron in the wilds the past 100 years, so maybe she's forgotten her manners.
The Witch King was the King of Angmar, which was a northern kingdom, if I remember correctly. I doubt Sauron would be a helpless guy lost at sea.
He may definitely end up being one of the Nine, though. In fact, that seems to be fairly obvious with the reveal that he should basically be Kind of the Southlands.
He may definitely end up being one of the Nine, though. In fact, that seems to be fairly obvious with the reveal that he should basically be Kind of the Southlands.
Anyone else think that they had Dennis from IASIP as a prisoner for a second?
Ol Jock 99 said:
And Adar? You really need a tip on him?
I suppose I do.
Unless you're meaning that he's Sauron
I thought the Witch-King was already a Nazgl when he founded Angmar, but I could be wrong about that. The lore does say that three of the Nazgl were of Numenor, including possibly the Witch-King.DallasTeleAg said:
The Witch King was the King of Angmar, which was a northern kingdom, if I remember correctly. I doubt Sauron would be a helpless guy lost at sea.
He may definitely end up being one of the Nine, though. In fact, that seems to be fairly obvious with the reveal that he should basically be Kind of the Southlands.
swc93 said:
Third episode is like a third date, its ****ing awesome.
Show for me officially has legs.
Ironically I think I had the same reaction after the 3rd episode of WoT…and we saw where that went the rest of the season.
The Porkchop Express said:
I won't touch on the Harfoots much because everyone else has…they're all best friends, but if you fall behind, burn in hell apparently.
This was the worst part of the 3rd episode and probably the entire show so far for me. It felt so forced and incongruent, and detracted from their entire screen time in the episode.
"Hey remember that dude who got left behind and/or died because of some bees? LOL, what a loser. Anyways, let's go practice our chants! We always stay together and never go off the trail!"
I finally caught up with the first three episodes, and I have to say, as someone who knows absolutely nothing about this world other than the first three LOTR movies, and thought the trailers made this series look boring, confusing, and unfocused… I'm absolutely loving it so far. I whiffed big time in my anticipation (or lack there of) on this and She-Hulk, and have ended up eating crow on both.
Sadly, also just like She-Hulk, I opened this thread after finally catching up on the show, only to discover a complete sh*t-show, with the usual suspects once again b*tching about the dumbest sh*t ever. All I can say in response is this… for the 400th time, no one here thinks you're racists or bigots. What you are is blinded by anti-woke rage. Because if you actually stopped to objectively consider what it is you're constantly b*tching about, you'd realize that it makes no sense whatsoever. Do some of you *really* think that Amazon, of all companies, is trying to score woke points? Do you *really* think that a multi-billion-dollar behemoth, notorious for treating many of its employees like sh*t, actually has any kind of a woke mandate for this show?
Or, maybe - just maybe - like I've been saying for years now… these studios are trying to reach the biggest audience possible in order to make the most $$$ possible. Which means casting more people of color, so more people of color watch the show. I promise you, it really is that simple. In this day and age, you simply can't make a show this big and this expensive and market it primarily to an all white audience with an all white cast. I know it's hard for some of you to understand, but there are millions of minorities out there who want to see themselves represented in the things they watch, and will be more inclined to watch something if they're represented. You may find that shallow or unrelatable, but for a company like Amazon - and every other Hollywood studio - they recognize that, and it's nothing more a numbers game to them. They want as many eyeballs as they can get, so they can make as much money as they can get. Because they're CORPORATIONS. With shareholders. That's it and that's all. It has NOTHING to do with scoring woke points, and they could not care less if making more money means making a tiny, irrational portion of their audience angry or annoyed that the skin color of Harfoots or Elves or whoever isn't 100% accurate to what amounts to an imaginary world that was invented out of thin air in the first place.
Sadly, also just like She-Hulk, I opened this thread after finally catching up on the show, only to discover a complete sh*t-show, with the usual suspects once again b*tching about the dumbest sh*t ever. All I can say in response is this… for the 400th time, no one here thinks you're racists or bigots. What you are is blinded by anti-woke rage. Because if you actually stopped to objectively consider what it is you're constantly b*tching about, you'd realize that it makes no sense whatsoever. Do some of you *really* think that Amazon, of all companies, is trying to score woke points? Do you *really* think that a multi-billion-dollar behemoth, notorious for treating many of its employees like sh*t, actually has any kind of a woke mandate for this show?
Or, maybe - just maybe - like I've been saying for years now… these studios are trying to reach the biggest audience possible in order to make the most $$$ possible. Which means casting more people of color, so more people of color watch the show. I promise you, it really is that simple. In this day and age, you simply can't make a show this big and this expensive and market it primarily to an all white audience with an all white cast. I know it's hard for some of you to understand, but there are millions of minorities out there who want to see themselves represented in the things they watch, and will be more inclined to watch something if they're represented. You may find that shallow or unrelatable, but for a company like Amazon - and every other Hollywood studio - they recognize that, and it's nothing more a numbers game to them. They want as many eyeballs as they can get, so they can make as much money as they can get. Because they're CORPORATIONS. With shareholders. That's it and that's all. It has NOTHING to do with scoring woke points, and they could not care less if making more money means making a tiny, irrational portion of their audience angry or annoyed that the skin color of Harfoots or Elves or whoever isn't 100% accurate to what amounts to an imaginary world that was invented out of thin air in the first place.
Chipotlemonger said:The Porkchop Express said:
I won't touch on the Harfoots much because everyone else has…they're all best friends, but if you fall behind, burn in hell apparently.
This was the worst part of the 3rd episode and probably the entire show so far for me. It felt so forced and incongruent, and detracted from their entire screen time in the episode.
"Hey remember that dude who got left behind and/or died because of some bees? LOL, what a loser. Anyways, let's go practice our chants! We always stay together and never go off the trail!"
This was super weird to me too. Made even weirder that they "honored" by basically mocking their loser "friends" who couldn't keep up. That was about the only thing I didn't like in the first three episodes.
3rd episode was awesome. I like what they seem to be building towards.
Man, I respect your right to have an opinion about this show, but coming in after 3 episodes with a lengthy rant about the races is just going to inflame this thread more and pull it away from the discussion of the show. Just ignore them.
I can't read or speak Elfish, but I've read a lot of Tolkien's work and I've really enjoyed the series so far. I know it's impossible to give a perfect translation of a book to the screen so though there are some issues with timelines and characters I'm just excited to see more of Middle Earth on screen.
I don't love the idea of the stranger being Gandalf, but it's looking more and more likely that's the case.
I don't love the idea of the stranger being Gandalf, but it's looking more and more likely that's the case.
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