Turn off the subtitles and turn up your volume, you may be surprised to learn which character narrates EVERY. SINGLE. EPISODE.

_lefraud_ said:

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Again, the show hasn't taken any sort of new "direction". The show has been about Elsa from the very beginning...

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The last two episodes have been nearly 100% teenage girl fantasy romance. The tv show went from a Western to a young adult coming of age story where her coming of age is acting like a petulant child and sleeping with everything that moves. I guess this is what coming of age means in the Tik Tok and Instagram era where the only thing that is important is sexuality.

Typically coming of age stories involve someone has immense hardships where they learn how to take responsibility and act like an adult. These may involve romance but more often than not the romance is secondary in comparison to the teenager taking the lead on family issues and realizing their own greatness through action. This so far has been exactly the opposite of a coming of age story because she has regressed in responsibility and maturity and appears to only care about herself and her next sexual conquest.

It's now a major drain upon the story and is ruining the whole plot line of getting the Duttons to Montana.

_lefraud_ said:

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Turn off the subtitles and turn up your volume, you may be surprised to learn which character narrates EVERY. SINGLE. EPISODE.

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Yeah, Sam Elliott narrates The Big Lewbowski as well. I'll let you figure out if it's all about him.

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Is Elsa going to fall in love with a Asian man working on a railroad next that lasts a few episodes as she laments how she has to leave him as the railroad goes East?

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I gotta admit. This made me laugh.

If Beth Dutton ends up being a great granddaughter, you can see where she gets it.

Mr. Nussbaum said:

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If Beth Dutton ends up being a great granddaughter, you can see where she gets it.

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i assume that is where they are going with that.

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Looks like they may finally make it to Montana!!! Next season!!

https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/1883-season-2-renewed-1932-yellowstone-prequel-1235182761/amp/

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"Yellowstone" prequel "1883" has been renewed for additional episodes at Paramount Plus, and the ViacomCBS-owned streaming service has ordered another Taylor Sheridan-created origin-story show following the Dutton Family called "1932." Yes, you guessed it the show will follow a new generation of Duttons "during the time of western expansion, Prohibition and the Great Depression."

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I'm just waiting for "2256," the Duttons defend the ranch from aliens with laser guns.

I'm freaking in for this.

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combat wombat said:
Do you not understand that JOHN is the person from whom the Duttons descend?

Not Elsa. Not Spencer. John.

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lol, i guess not, please explain the family tree

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Couldn't a descendant of Elsa's end up being Evelyn Dutton (John's husband, Beth's mom)?

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John has a husband?!?!

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combat wombat said:
Do you not understand that JOHN is the person from whom the Duttons descend?

Not Elsa. Not Spencer. John.

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lol, i guess not, please explain the family tree

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Couldn't a descendant of Elsa's end up being Evelyn Dutton (John's husband, Beth's mom)?

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John has a husband?!?!

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MAJOR plot twist!

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combat wombat said:
Do you not understand that JOHN is the person from whom the Duttons descend?

Not Elsa. Not Spencer. John.

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lol, i guess not, please explain the family tree

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Couldn't a descendant of Elsa's end up being Evelyn Dutton (John's husband, Beth's mom)?

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Wouldn't Elsa's descendants have the name of whoever their father is, instead of Dutton?

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Yes... whatever Evelyn Dutton's maiden name was.

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So Elsa is a Dutton, and her descendant is going to marry John?

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PlanoAg98 said:

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Yes... whatever Evelyn Dutton's maiden name was.

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So Elsa is a Dutton, and her descendant is going to marry John?

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On the next Jerry Springer

Straight outta Arkansas

I'm likely an outlier here but almost everything about 1883 irritates me:
Sam Elliot, overacting as usual.
Elsa's phony azzed southern accent voice over
Going from Tennessee to Oregon via Ft Worth
German immigrants landing in Galveston en route to Oregon rather than staying in central Texas with their countrymen
Constantly sitting outside a tent beside some river while while worrying about clearing the mountains before the snow flies. Get off you ass and move!!
An 18 YO white girl purposely marrying a Comanche in 1883. Ok, acknowledge the Cynthia Ann Parker thing but she was kidnapped as a child, not married as an adult. No greater hatred on the plains than whites for Comanches, and vice versa.
White women with bare shoulders/arms exposed to that weather would be burned to a blistered crisp.
Sam Elliot's partner with the union sergeants jacket. Could he possible speak any slower? One Sam Elliot type is more than enough without this dude playing the black version of Sam.

This AIN'T no Lonesome Dove!!

stbabs said:

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I'm likely an outlier here but almost everything about 1883 irritates me:
Sam Elliot, overacting as usual.
Elsa's phony azzed southern accent voice over
Going from Tennessee to Oregon via Ft Worth
German immigrants landing in Galveston en route to Oregon rather than staying in central Texas with their countrymen
Constantly sitting outside a tent beside some river while while worrying about clearing the mountains before the snow flies. Get off you ass and move!!
An 18 YO white girl purposely marrying a Comanche in 1883. Ok, acknowledge the Cynthia Ann Parker thing but she was kidnapped as a child, not married as an adult. No greater hatred on the plains than whites for Comanches, and vice versa.
White women with bare shoulders/arms exposed to that weather would be burned to a blistered crisp.
Sam Elliot's partner with the union sergeants jacket. Could he possible speak any slower? One Sam Elliot type is more than enough without this dude playing the black version of Sam.

This AIN'T no Lonesome Dove!!

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Youre an outlier.

While the crazy blonde went from really good story to jumping the sharp a bit, and things went off the rails this episode, this has been a really good western for the most part.

And its not like crazy horny blondes never happen.

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stbabs said:

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I'm likely an outlier here but almost everything about 1883 irritates me:
Sam Elliot, overacting as usual.
Elsa's phony azzed southern accent voice over
Going from Tennessee to Oregon via Ft Worth
German immigrants landing in Galveston en route to Oregon rather than staying in central Texas with their countrymen
Constantly sitting outside a tent beside some river while while worrying about clearing the mountains before the snow flies. Get off you ass and move!!
An 18 YO white girl purposely marrying a Comanche in 1883. Ok, acknowledge the Cynthia Ann Parker thing but she was kidnapped as a child, not married as an adult. No greater hatred on the plains than whites for Comanches, and vice versa.
White women with bare shoulders/arms exposed to that weather would be burned to a blistered crisp.
Sam Elliot's partner with the union sergeants jacket. Could he possible speak any slower? One Sam Elliot type is more than enough without this dude playing the black version of Sam.

This AIN'T no Lonesome Dove!!

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Youre an outlier.

While the crazy blonde went from really good story to jumping the sharp a bit, and things went off the rails this episode, this has been a really good western for the most part.

And its not like crazy horny blondes never happen.

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He is right. It's no Lonesome Dove. But no other western is.

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Sam Elliot, overacting as usual.

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This is my favorite show on TV, but this last episode seemed sloppily edited or something. Even just the cuts from scene to scene. Almost felt like they overhauled it at the very last minute or something. And it was filled with cringe-worthy over-the-top crap. Up until now, the show never really asked us to suspend our imaginations to this degree. On one hand, this episode was still more entertaining than most crap on TV, and had some good moments, but overall, it was garbage compared to eps 1-7.

By this date, I am sure maybe some Comanches may have warmed up to cooperating with the white man, and vice versa...but the love story is just silly. And the fact that he looks like Troy Polamalu and nothing like any native or Comanche anyone has ever seen. But even that would have been fine, if they had just maybe left it at her being mystified/impressed by their ways or being intrigued by him. Leaving her family to join a violent Comanche tribe that is roaming and at war, and her father being "selfishly sad" but fine with it bc she's 18, and her mother being secretly jealous of her...is just stupid and beyond unrealistic. I kind of hope they scrap this storyline and let everyone forget about it as they move fwd.

The line up above about her falling in love with an Asian rail worker made me LOL.

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_lefraud_ said:

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Again, the show hasn't taken any sort of new "direction". The show has been about Elsa from the very beginning...

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The last two episodes have been nearly 100% teenage girl fantasy romance. The tv show went from a Western to a young adult coming of age story where her coming of age is acting like a petulant child and sleeping with everything that moves. I guess this is what coming of age means in the Tik Tok and Instagram era where the only thing that is important is sexuality.

Typically coming of age stories involve someone has immense hardships where they learn how to take responsibility and act like an adult. These may involve romance but more often than not the romance is secondary in comparison to the teenager taking the lead on family issues and realizing their own greatness through action. This so far has been exactly the opposite of a coming of age story because she has regressed in responsibility and maturity and appears to only care about herself and her next sexual conquest.

It's now a major drain upon the story and is ruining the whole plot line of getting the Duttons to Montana.

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This. I went from her maybe being my favorite character to almost hoping the first scene of the series was simply foreshadowing what happens to her in the beginning of the next episode. Much more of this and I'm fine with killing her off unexpectedly.

On that note, this is what she's wearing in the scene where she takes an arrow to the gut. The scene where she's baffled that the Indian speaks English, after her Indian lover spoke almost fluent English to her. does she go back to her her "lady" roots in the next few episodes?

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This. I went from her maybe being my favorite character to almost hoping the first scene of the series was simply foreshadowing what happens to her in the beginning of the next episode. Much more of this and I'm fine with killing her off unexpectedly.

On that note, this is what she's wearing in the scene where she takes an arrow to the gut. The scene where she's baffled that the Indian speaks English, after her Indian lover spoke almost fluent English to her. does she go back to her her "lady" roots in the next few episodes?

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Wait a sec, is that a wedding dress?

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

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This. I went from her maybe being my favorite character to almost hoping the first scene of the series was simply foreshadowing what happens to her in the beginning of the next episode. Much more of this and I'm fine with killing her off unexpectedly.

On that note, this is what she's wearing in the scene where she takes an arrow to the gut. The scene where she's baffled that the Indian speaks English, after her Indian lover spoke almost fluent English to her. does she go back to her her "lady" roots in the next few episodes?

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Wait a sec, is that a wedding dress?

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Oh shiii...

CondensedFoggyAggie said:

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SB 43rd STREET OG said:

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This. I went from her maybe being my favorite character to almost hoping the first scene of the series was simply foreshadowing what happens to her in the beginning of the next episode. Much more of this and I'm fine with killing her off unexpectedly.

On that note, this is what she's wearing in the scene where she takes an arrow to the gut. The scene where she's baffled that the Indian speaks English, after her Indian lover spoke almost fluent English to her. does she go back to her her "lady" roots in the next few episodes?

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Wait a sec, is that a wedding dress?

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Not a Native American one.

Y'all go make your own circle jerk bleeder thread. Jesus Christ.

Tough episode.

JUST started the show. I'm going to point out that all the other people are bundled up against the cold and Elsa is riding around in her Indian vest like it's summer in Texas.

Damn, tough episode.

Teenage romance is over though.