***1883 Season 1***

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Episode one dropped this morning on Paramount Plus. Premiers tonight after Yellowstone. Watching the first episode now and holy crap it's pretty fantastic so far.
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I watched the first episode.

Sam Elliott is always worth watching. He's the only actor whose dialogue I can reliably understand. I can't understand a word the black guy is saying. I watched it on the Paramount website and there aren't any closed captions that I can find.

Why are he and the black guy wearing Pinkerton badges?

Very gritty stuff. I liked Sam.
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so will it be on Paramount also or just Paramount +?
TXAG 05
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wbt5845 said:

so will it be on Paramount also or just Paramount +?


Pretty sure the first episode with be on paramount tonight, but the rest will be on P+.

Just watched the first 2 episodes and liking it a lot.
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Coulda done without one historical accuracy so far. I won't give it away other than to say "pit".
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Buck Turgidson said:

Coulda done without one historical accuracy so far. I won't give it away other than to say "pit".


Agreed. I get it, but could have done without it.
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TXAG 05 said:

wbt5845 said:

so will it be on Paramount also or just Paramount +?


Pretty sure the first episode with be on paramount tonight, but the rest will be on P+.

Just watched the first 2 episodes and liking it a lot.
Ah yes, the Star Trek: Discovery method… premier the first episode on TV then move it over to your subscription service. This new method of TV sucks ass. Too many damn services. At least Amazon and Netflix understand TV they need to have multiple shows going on to keep subscribers.
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This show is all kinds of AWESOME!!!

Already many epic quotes by Sam Elliot, Tim McGraw and Billy Bob.
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Elsa has to die... the arrow wound in the opening scene is simply not survivable. Being a daughter, she's not John Dutton's grandmother... she would have been his great great aunt.

I like her character and I hope I'm wrong.

And those stupid Germans are less than 24 hours into the trip and they're already sick because the can't follow instructions.
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I wondered about that to.
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Wasn't expecting a Tom Hanks cameo.
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Buck Turgidson said:

Coulda done without one historical accuracy so far. I won't give it away other than to say "pit".

This must've been in episode two because it's not ringing a bell.
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SWC Ag said:

Buck Turgidson said:

Coulda done without one historical accuracy so far. I won't give it away other than to say "pit".

This must've been in episode two because it's not ringing a bell.

There is a second episode now on Paramount+.
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Watched the first episode with my family tonight.

The daughter was insufferable, made worse by her terrible voice over. One of my least favorite TV characters in a while.

Everything else was pretty good, though. Some of the dialogue was a little too modern for my taste, but the story, action, cinematography, and score were all pretty great.

Will definitely continue giving it a shot.
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Only saw the first episode. Germans migrating from Texas to Oregon? In 1883, by wagon, after transcontinental rail lines were in place? Seems wildly historically inaccurate.
plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
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Just finished the first two episodes. I thought it was great!
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Said they couldn't afford the train.
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TCTTS said:

Watched the first episode with my family tonight.

The daughter was insufferable, made worse by her terrible voice over. One of my least favorite TV characters in a while.

Everything else was pretty good, though. Some of the dialogue was a little too modern for my taste, but the story, action, cinematography, and score were all pretty great.

Will definitely continue giving it a shot.


I hate to be that person, but you are so wrong. The voiceover is fantastic. She may be a brat at the beginning of the episode on the train, but I grew genuinely fond of her character as the first episode went on. The point is that Dutton didn't have a son old enough to do and learn the things an son needs to learn, so he showed his daughter how to do those things. My dad did the same thing to my older sister, so I guess I liked it because it was very relatable.
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I liked it when he told his wife that the world had plenty of ladies but was short on good men.

Incidentally, I disliked the daughter at 1st, too.
Charpie
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Exactly
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Oh, and I didn't watch Yellowstone. But I started last night. Initially I did not realize that this was the prequel to Yellowstone.
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That escalated quickly.
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jabberwalkie09 said:

SWC Ag said:

Buck Turgidson said:

Coulda done without one historical accuracy so far. I won't give it away other than to say "pit".

This must've been in episode two because it's not ringing a bell.

There is a second episode now on Paramount+.

Yeah but I don't have it. Just watched the preview on Paramount. Is the pit hair scene in part two or was I too busy looking for/at boobs in part one?
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Too busy looking at boobs. When doing the small pox check they showed it.

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Great show. I thought the previews were awesome and I was worried the actual episodes wouldn't live up to the billing. But they were very good; grabbed my attention right away

Also a little surprised by Tim McGraw and Faith Hill. Thought they would be more wooden and awkward but they held their own.

And of course, there's Sam Elliott.





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They show Elsa has pit hair when she's hanging out in the tent with her little brother. She's in her nightgown/shift, which is sleeveless.
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TCTTS said:

Watched the first episode with my family tonight.

The daughter was insufferable, made worse by her terrible voice over. One of my least favorite TV characters in a while.

Everything else was pretty good, though. Some of the dialogue was a little too modern for my taste, but the story, action, cinematography, and score were all pretty great.

Will definitely continue giving it a shot.
wait a minute.... the daughter going berserk on indians with a pistol with an arrow in her gut?

how can you not like her? even in her brat stage on the train, she was just what any hot young girl would likely be acting like, but she had the stones to fight off that drunk and i expect that was a wake up call.

didnt even notice a voice over.

anyway, havent seen no. 2 yet but i thought episode 1 was pretty darn good.
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That was not the Trinity River.
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usmcbrooks said:

That was not the Trinity River.
well, yeah, clearly not... and not only that, but they'd be really lost to hit the trinity trying to get to oregon from ft worth.

but again, suspending disbelief is a requirement.
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Charpie said:

TCTTS said:

Watched the first episode with my family tonight.

The daughter was insufferable, made worse by her terrible voice over. One of my least favorite TV characters in a while.

Everything else was pretty good, though. Some of the dialogue was a little too modern for my taste, but the story, action, cinematography, and score were all pretty great.

Will definitely continue giving it a shot.


I hate to be that person, but you are so wrong. The voiceover is fantastic. She may be a brat at the beginning of the episode on the train, but I grew genuinely fond of her character as the first episode went on. The point is that Dutton didn't have a son old enough to do and learn the things an son needs to learn, so he showed his daughter how to do those things. My dad did the same thing to my older sister, so I guess I liked it because it was very relatable.


If you found her voice over to be effective, more power to you. But unless its Morgan Freeman in Shawshank, voice over is almost always a lazy crutch, telling not showing, and makes no sense to begin with (Who is she talking to? Is she narrating a book she eventually writes? Why is it necessary?). In this case, I thought it checked all of those boxes. It was just way too on the nose for my taste.

And I totally get that her arc is supposed to be naive free spirit to hardened badass or whatever, but IMO, that didn't stop her from being annoying in the pilot. I simply didn't like the way she was written, culminating in the whole back stroke in the river thing, which was just so… obvious and eye-roll-inducing.
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I think the worse part so far was McGraw's Civil War boots at Antietam......way too big for him and he actually stumbles because of them...(Hanks has the exact same pair)...no way anyone could have walked, much less fought in those! Plus: since when do horses hooves/shoes spark so much on the open prairie....they'd a caught the whole dang prairie on fire! It's been good though!
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Bighunter43 said:

I think the worse part so far was McGraw's Civil War boots at Antietam......way too big for him and he actually stumbles because of them...(Hanks has the exact same pair)...no way anyone could have walked, much less fought in those! Plus: since when do horses hooves/shoes spark so much on the open prairie....they'd a caught the whole dang prairie on fire! It's been good though!


99% of the people watching this don't know that the river is NOT the Trinity, shoes don't spark, poison ivy does NOT look like Burr Oak leaves plucked from a tree, and that Rattlesnakes are not always deadly. Nevermind the fact that a lot of the group would've contracted the pox from that one fella. This show is not about accuracy any more than Yellowstone which is disappointing but expected. Gonna have to take it for what it is…a drama.
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It's Hollywood, not a documentary. What i found interesting is there was a sheriff that somewhat acted like billy bob thornton in fort worth during this time. .
combat wombat™
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Jim Courtwright WAS a real sheriff in Ft Worth.

Look him up on wiki.

https://www.tamupress.com/9780875652924/jim-courtright-of-fort-worth
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Geeze people. I'd hate to see what you'd say if this was the first time you saw Dances With Wolves. "No way a dead Elk looks like that underwater! It would never make that big a smoke plume, pfft. This show is ******ed".

What makes you think that wasn't the Trinity? The Trinity is definitely known for having a more wooded riverbed with steep banks but that depiction wasn't far from it. Prairie grass with oak/scrub trees and dirty slow moving water. That should be good enough.

There's no way he's going to actually hold poison oak or ivy, you dumbasses. Those people on set could merely breathe around it and get infected. "But it's not real!"

Those leaves looked pretty close to poison oak, actually, which has larger rounded leaves.

Where are the complaints that these German immigrants weren't also wearing Kaiser helmets and spoke with too much of a Prussian dialect? For gods sake.
 
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