I thought it was decent. I laughed several times. Some of the parodies felt way too real though and made it all the more depressing. It didn't feel that it was too preachy, just very unsubtle parody.
Don't Look Up (Netflix - 12/10)
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A poster remarked that a film like this getting such bad reviews with the political message it was trying to convey must mean that it was a very bad movie.
I said that reviewers are less incentivized to give streaming only films positive reviews. The reasoning for that is that their utility drops when the only barrier to an experience is the viewers time and a subscription they already pay. On the flip side they're more incentivized to give positive reviews with theatrical releases, because those films cost more for production companies, they want good reviews, and the reviewers want to continue to maintain access.
TCTTS said my premise didn't match with this film, because it got a theatrical release, and I pointed out that the theatrical release was merely a mechanism to make the film eligible for Oscar consideration, because the Oscars do not consider films that are only available on television to be films. This film had a very limited release in theaters, box officed under a million dollars, and for all realistic purposes is a film whose real release was just to a streaming platform.
Basically TCTTS denying that reviewers have perverse incentives for a variety of reasons that bias them against conservative messages and less obligations for positive reviews when a film is released to streaming platforms.
Not trying to get into a big back and forth about it, because I don't care that much, but was just pointing out to him that his critique of my statement wasn't exactly honest when he said the film received a theatrical release, because the release was so small that it was nearly non-existent.
I said that reviewers are less incentivized to give streaming only films positive reviews. The reasoning for that is that their utility drops when the only barrier to an experience is the viewers time and a subscription they already pay. On the flip side they're more incentivized to give positive reviews with theatrical releases, because those films cost more for production companies, they want good reviews, and the reviewers want to continue to maintain access.
TCTTS said my premise didn't match with this film, because it got a theatrical release, and I pointed out that the theatrical release was merely a mechanism to make the film eligible for Oscar consideration, because the Oscars do not consider films that are only available on television to be films. This film had a very limited release in theaters, box officed under a million dollars, and for all realistic purposes is a film whose real release was just to a streaming platform.
Basically TCTTS denying that reviewers have perverse incentives for a variety of reasons that bias them against conservative messages and less obligations for positive reviews when a film is released to streaming platforms.
Not trying to get into a big back and forth about it, because I don't care that much, but was just pointing out to him that his critique of my statement wasn't exactly honest when he said the film received a theatrical release, because the release was so small that it was nearly non-existent.
If you really think this is how critics/reviews operate, I don't know what to tell you. I've literally worked in this world, and employed these people, and nothing could be further from the truth. This reads like paranoid fiction.
Streaming movies are eligible for The Oscars. No need for a theatrical run this year.hph6203 said:
For a week or two to make it eligible for awards. Not a true theatrical release. How many theaters did it make it to exactly? Not enough to announce? Not enough to line the pockets of the interested parties? Nice try though.
Don't believe that is accurate. The film can remain eligible if it has its theatrical run canceled due to the pandemic, but it has to have the intention of a theatrical release or at minimum 7 days in theaters. A film with no scheduled theatrical release is not eligible for consideration according to their release.
Guidelines for consideration.
Guidelines for consideration.
It's not paranoid to believe that people respond to incentives and that the incentives heavily weight towards theatrical, rather than streaming releases. You don't even have to look beyond the premiere awards ceremony requirements for films to get a view of that. How is a film any less a film if it's viewed on a TV screen? If I have a projector in my house does it suddenly transform into a different medium? No. It's a film either way.TCTTS said:
If you really think this is how critics/reviews operate, I don't know what to tell you. I've literally worked in this world, and employed these people, and nothing could be further from the truth. This reads like paranoid fiction.
To believe that the entertainment industry isn't impacted by those incentives requires faith that they have integrity beyond the general population, and they've demonstrated time and again over the years that they at minimum don't have a greater amount of integrity. I'm not saying they have substantially less integrity, I think we're just more aware of their dirty little secrets, but they certainly don't have more.
What I posted was an oversimplification/overstated the effect because it was easier to write, but the point was that theatrical releases get a bump relative to streaming releases and liberal messages get a bump relative to conservative messages.
I thought it was entertaining. J-Law was actually pretty damn funny.
I don't think it went to theaters for award purposes, it was good but not likely anyone expected this to get any of that type of buzz.
I don't think it went to theaters for award purposes, it was good but not likely anyone expected this to get any of that type of buzz.
Wife wanted to watch it tonight so we did, both going in knowing it was a parody.
It was dumb. But we knew it was supposed to be dumb. Streep's version of the President being somewhat of a cross between Palin and Trump was over the top but expected.
The cell phone/tech CEO was a mashup of Jobs, Bezos, and Gates. I didn't really see Musk or Branson in him, but the other three were borrowed from. His plans and his company's actions were a little bit like the tech in The Circle with Emma Watson.
I didn't have a problem with Lawrence in this film.
Leo was good for what it was.
It was surprising to see Tyler Perry in this but he did fine as an absurd morning show host. And it was absurd.
It definitely had preachy moments and paints The Right as all being conspiracy theorist rednecks, but if you go in knowing it's an absurd parody of politics and society and media, it's ok.
No way would I pay to see it at a theater.
It was dumb. But we knew it was supposed to be dumb. Streep's version of the President being somewhat of a cross between Palin and Trump was over the top but expected.
The cell phone/tech CEO was a mashup of Jobs, Bezos, and Gates. I didn't really see Musk or Branson in him, but the other three were borrowed from. His plans and his company's actions were a little bit like the tech in The Circle with Emma Watson.
I didn't have a problem with Lawrence in this film.
Leo was good for what it was.
It was surprising to see Tyler Perry in this but he did fine as an absurd morning show host. And it was absurd.
It definitely had preachy moments and paints The Right as all being conspiracy theorist rednecks, but if you go in knowing it's an absurd parody of politics and society and media, it's ok.
No way would I pay to see it at a theater.
hph6203 said:It's not paranoid to believe that people respond to incentives and that the incentives heavily weight towards theatrical, rather than streaming releases. You don't even have to look beyond the premiere awards ceremony requirements for films to get a view of that. How is a film any less a film if it's viewed on a TV screen? If I have a projector in my house does it suddenly transform into a different medium? No. It's a film either way.TCTTS said:
If you really think this is how critics/reviews operate, I don't know what to tell you. I've literally worked in this world, and employed these people, and nothing could be further from the truth. This reads like paranoid fiction.
To believe that the entertainment industry isn't impacted by those incentives requires faith that they have integrity beyond the general population, and they've demonstrated time and again over the years that they at minimum don't have a greater amount of integrity. I'm not saying they have substantially less integrity, I think we're just more aware of their dirty little secrets, but they certainly don't have more.
What I posted was an oversimplification/overstated the effect because it was easier to write, but the point was that theatrical releases get a bump relative to streaming releases and liberal messages get a bump relative to conservative messages.
What you're describing here is a completely different system than that of the critics and the sites that employ them. You're not wrong in the above, I'm saying your application of it toward critics in your previous post, before you conveniently broadened your argument to "the entertainment industry," is what was off. Way to move the goal posts, though.
It was pretty dull. The fact that it streamed is the only reason I watched. I did appreciate the earth getting destroyed…finally a disaster movie with a realistic ending.
They really tried too hard to make it all trump/maga-like.
Will upcoming movies make fun of the current and senile idiot and his dumber #2? Doubt it.
2/10…would not watch again
They really tried too hard to make it all trump/maga-like.
Will upcoming movies make fun of the current and senile idiot and his dumber #2? Doubt it.
2/10…would not watch again
West Point Aggie said:
It was pretty dull. The fact that it streamed is the only reason I watched. I did appreciate the earth getting destroyed…finally a disaster movie with a realistic ending.
They really tried too hard to make it all trump/maga-like.
Will upcoming movies make fun of the current and senile idiot and his dumber #2? Doubt it.
2/10…would not watch again
And risk being called sexist and racist?
No.
Choosing not to care, because this would be an endless discussion.
There's two post credit scenes, watch both
Having the tech industry literally ruin the planet (and have a backup plan no one knows about) was pretty hilarious and feeling more and more real each day. Guessing McKay will be tracked and bothered by them non stop until he dies now.
McKay punched the right a few times, but he made fun of everyone else. Media (news, TV, social), tech, public stupidity (music couple breakup more important than everyone dying), political stupidity, fyre festival like handling of it, etc.
McKay punched the right a few times, but he made fun of everyone else. Media (news, TV, social), tech, public stupidity (music couple breakup more important than everyone dying), political stupidity, fyre festival like handling of it, etc.
So this was an actual parody and comedy. I'm just now catching that. I guess I thought y'all were saying it was so stupid that it may as well have been one.
BrandonC said:
Really about preaching their global warming BS! Pass!
Yes, global warming is complete BS! I'm enjoying this completely natural 80 degree weather in December. Nothing to see here.
BJM1781 said:BrandonC said:
Really about preaching their global warming BS! Pass!
Yes, global warming is complete BS! I'm enjoying this completely natural 80 degree weather in December. Nothing to see here.
You should have seen how warm it was here back in February!
Just finished it. Had some decently funny parts. Jennifer Lawrence being obsessed with the General charging them for snacks was probably the funniest part of the movie.
And what happened to Meryl Streep in the post credits scene.
And what happened to Meryl Streep in the post credits scene.
It was below zero earlier in the year for first time in memory. We lost all of our landscape on the Texas coast in Rockport which is 3 hours south of Houston. Try again!BJM1781 said:BrandonC said:
Really about preaching their global warming BS! Pass!
Yes, global warming is complete BS! I'm enjoying this completely natural 80 degree weather in December. Nothing to see here.
The term "global warming" needs to be retired. Should instead be referred to as "climate change," and the example you just gave lends to the fact that it is, indeed, changing/happening. We're seeing extreme temperatures, both cold and hot, along with other erratic weather behavior, such as this 80+ degree December. It's all part of the same, increasingly extreme trends.
Dude, just stop. Like stated above, all you did was prove that climate change does in fact exist and has indeed affected weather patterns.
But keep up that same ol' rhetoric! It's certainly worked the past 20 years.
But keep up that same ol' rhetoric! It's certainly worked the past 20 years.
Stop what? Guy used "global warming" in same year we had record low temperatures not seen in decades. All of our landscape in a sub tropical geographic band was destroyed due to these record low temps.BJM1781 said:
Dude, just stop. Like stated above, all you did was prove that climate change does in fact exist and has indeed affected weather patterns.
But keep up that same ol' rhetoric! It's certainly worked the past 20 years.
What are you talking about?
TCTTS said:
The term "global warming" needs to be retired. Should instead be referred to as "climate change," and the example you just gave lends to the fact that it is, indeed, changing/happening. We're seeing extreme temperatures, both cold and hot, along with other erratic whether behavior, such as this 80+ degree December. It's all part of the same, increasingly extreme trends.
Then the people pushing the terms should have planned better. They went all-in on "global warming" for years. Then there were some extreme winter storms. And snow in places that rarely get snow. Then they had to backtrack and say "climate change"!
Climate changes. This isn't a shock. It's changed on a grand scale multiple times over eons.
The next big term will be "man-made climate change" or "homosapien-influenced climate change".
Lefties on message boards in the US can virtue signal all they want, and the current administration can pay for all of us to walk or bike and completely outlaw private passenger vehicles. It won't matter.
Unless China and India and some other developing countries get on board, it's not going to matter what we do.
And someone tell those damned volcanoes to quit spewing out climate-changing gases already.
It was 89.1 degrees in Dallas on the 24th of December 1955. Climate change is not something you are going to recognize on a year to year basis. Not even a decade to decade basis. The temperature changes are not that large. It's why Al Gore was predicting Glacial National Park would just be National Park by now in Inconvenient Truth. Spoilers: there are still glaciers in Glacier National Park. The effect is and always has been overstated by non-scientists.BJM1781 said:
Dude, just stop. Like stated above, all you did was prove that climate change does in fact exist and has indeed affected weather patterns.
But keep up that same ol' rhetoric! It's certainly worked the past 20 years.
Climate change is not a near term concern. It is a long term concern for the future of humanity and the alarms being rung are making assumptions that zero technological advancements are made to mitigate those issues.
Every. Single. Time. Someone says an outlier weather event is attributable to climate change they are going to look ridiculous, because a nearly identical event is going to be on record decades prior.
https://www.almanac.com/weather/history/TX/Dallas/1955-12-24
This isn't to say climate change isn't a concern. It is, but weather and climate are not the same thing. The news media are morons when it comes to covering it.
maroon barchetta said:TCTTS said:
The term "global warming" needs to be retired. Should instead be referred to as "climate change," and the example you just gave lends to the fact that it is, indeed, changing/happening. We're seeing extreme temperatures, both cold and hot, along with other erratic whether behavior, such as this 80+ degree December. It's all part of the same, increasingly extreme trends.
Then the people pushing the terms should have planned better. They went all-in on "global warming" for years. Then there were some extreme winter storms. And snow in places that rarely get snow. Then they had to backtrack and say "climate change"!
Climate changes. This isn't a shock. It's changed on a grand scale multiple times over eons.
The next big term will be "man-made climate change" or "homosapien-influenced climate change".
Lefties on message boards in the US can virtue signal all they want, and the current administration can pay for all of us to walk or bike and completely outlaw private passenger vehicles. It won't matter.
Unless China and India and some other developing countries get on board, it's not going to matter what we do.
And someone tell those damned volcanoes to quit spewing out climate-changing gases already.
In 100% agreement that the left is truly terrible at messaging... "global warming," "defund the police," etc, I could go on and on. I also agree that we have no hope in stopping whatever's coming. Instead, we should be putting money and resources toward living with it/preparing for it, in whatever ways we can, as opposed to trying to reverse it by spending/regulating our way out of it.
As to whether it's man-made... I don't know. On one hand, there's absolutely no way the pollution we've been putting into the air isn't affecting the environment in some really bad ways. That said, yes, as noted above, this can also be cyclical/natural as well.
Ultimately, I just wish the left would acknowledge that we can't spend/regulate our way out of it, and I wish the right would quit acting like nothing's happening (man-made or not). Instead, if the two sides could come together and work toward some kind of socioeconomic/infrastructural preparation plan - or, at least, contingency plan - we'd be in much better shape when/if sh*t finally does hit the fan at some point this century.
1) Funny movie
2) This movie has nothing to do with climate change. Not sure why some posters are getting bent out of shape about it.
3) If you don't think climate change is real, I suggest you stop reading FB. If you want advice about law, talk to your lawyer. If you want advice about structural engineering, talk to a structural engineer. If you want advice about climate science, talk to a climate scientist. People need to stop pretending to be experts about fields they don't work in.
2) This movie has nothing to do with climate change. Not sure why some posters are getting bent out of shape about it.
3) If you don't think climate change is real, I suggest you stop reading FB. If you want advice about law, talk to your lawyer. If you want advice about structural engineering, talk to a structural engineer. If you want advice about climate science, talk to a climate scientist. People need to stop pretending to be experts about fields they don't work in.
Many of us on the right acknowledge something is happening. The primary issue I have with it is that we are not allowed to discuss real solutions anymore. About the only solution that is now approved by the left for solving it is wealth redistribution. As if taking money from producers and handing it over to Washington, some global group in Brussels, or the UN is going to fix anything. Now factor in China and India doing almost nothing to contribute and it's all moot anyway.
The big public climate change solution in this country is to convert to EV's which is a form of suicide by the current administration. China has a monopoly on the raw materials needed for powering EV's and we are voluntarily making an entire industry that is our primary means for mobility beholden to our biggest enemy on the planet. And we do not have the means to offset this monopoly anytime in the near future either.
A lot of us are perplexed by Germany's energy policy of making themselves totally beholden to Russian gas in order to power their country and we are doing the same damn thing with vehicles and China. The whole movement is insane and without practical or critical thought applied by the left.
The big public climate change solution in this country is to convert to EV's which is a form of suicide by the current administration. China has a monopoly on the raw materials needed for powering EV's and we are voluntarily making an entire industry that is our primary means for mobility beholden to our biggest enemy on the planet. And we do not have the means to offset this monopoly anytime in the near future either.
A lot of us are perplexed by Germany's energy policy of making themselves totally beholden to Russian gas in order to power their country and we are doing the same damn thing with vehicles and China. The whole movement is insane and without practical or critical thought applied by the left.
My son has a theory that the next big military conflict will be in South America over lithium salts.
Not exactly like Dune as lithium salts are not a "spice", but still a salt, yes?
Not exactly like Dune as lithium salts are not a "spice", but still a salt, yes?
So, uhh... I'm gonna post my thoughts about the movie and not the weather.
I found it pretty funny with the dark humor. Jonah Hill was great with his purse. Cate Blanchett still got it. Tyler Perry is growing on me when he's not dressing like a woman.
Felt maybe 20-30 minutes too long. 7/10
I found it pretty funny with the dark humor. Jonah Hill was great with his purse. Cate Blanchett still got it. Tyler Perry is growing on me when he's not dressing like a woman.
Felt maybe 20-30 minutes too long. 7/10
Spoiler alert…..
Lots of stars yelling…
Jokes about the right…
Big rock hits earth….
Basically 1.5 hour snl skit with Meryl Streep butt naked to end it.
Lots of stars yelling…
Jokes about the right…
Big rock hits earth….
Basically 1.5 hour snl skit with Meryl Streep butt naked to end it.
TyHolden said:
Spoiler alert…..
Lots of stars yelling…
Jokes about the right…
Big rock hits earth….
Basically 1.5 hour snl skit with Meryl Streep butt naked to end it.
Did she look good?
BJM1781 said:BrandonC said:
Really about preaching their global warming BS! Pass!
Yes, global warming is complete BS! I'm enjoying this completely natural 80 degree weather in December. Nothing to see here.
It's been warm during Christmas in Texas as long as I can remember. Never associated Christmas with cold temperatures, even though there are all the carols about snow and winter wonderlands.
No doubt the climate is changing. It has warmed and cooled since the beginning of time. I just don't see how anyone could be so vain to think that we have any control over it.
Definitely not the first Christmas I have worn shorts.
YouBet said:TyHolden said:
Spoiler alert…..
Lots of stars yelling…
Jokes about the right…
Big rock hits earth….
Basically 1.5 hour snl skit with Meryl Streep butt naked to end it.
Did she look good?
What do you think?
SamHou said:
1) Funny movie
2) This movie has nothing to do with climate change. Not sure why some posters are getting bent out of shape about it.
3) If you don't think climate change is real, I suggest you stop reading FB. If you want advice about law, talk to your lawyer. If you want advice about structural engineering, talk to a structural engineer. If you want advice about climate science, talk to a climate scientist. People need to stop pretending to be experts about fields they don't work in.
I find your comment funnier than any part of this flick…the news couple were cute…looking like typical news dunces…but other than mindless drivel, you actually found this funny? There literally are 35yo+ golden girls episodes that are way funnier…
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