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You're looking for a reason to discount the research, so naturally you're going to find it. Congrats, you entrenched yourself firmly in your preconceived position.

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Like "candidate must be of aboriginal descent" kind of preconceived position?

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How is encouraging people traditionally left out of high level science a bad thing? It's not as if this is the only grant in existence for people to earn.

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That is a whole other discussion not suited for an Entertainment board thread bout a movie based on a climate change metaphor.

But if you can't see the issue with that in a meritocracy, then I don't know what to tell you. It basically removes the meritocracy from the equation, or at least waters it down. You are putting other factors that have no bearing on one's scientific acumen as determining factors in funding.

Oh look, another entertainment board thread derailed by atmag vomiting annoyingness all over it. Sweet.

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Oh look, another entertainment board thread derailed by atmag vomiting annoyingness all over it. Sweet.

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Oh look. More proof that this board is a liberal group-think safe space that can't handle having their beliefs challenged.

Sapper expressing liberal BS: A-okay
Conservative expession : vomit

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I didn't watch it but given the comments here about the liberal propaganda bs and global warming preachiness, guess what? I still won't watch it, I'll say I did, and then tell everyone I know that it's a crap movie and that's it's not worth their time so they dont watch it either.

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Glad you came and posted on the thread about it. Everyone was eagerly awaiting you to come say that you have no desire to see the movie, and now we can happily go about our lives knowing that it's no longer a mystery. Such a great addition to the conversation.

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Well you're welcome. Here's one more addition since you asked.

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You think Leo owns that yacht?
"This is Leo aboard his megayacht"

https://pagesix.com/2022/01/05/leonardo-dicaprio-lounges-on-a-yacht-with-pal-lukas-haas/#:~:text=Last%20week%2C%20the%20%E2%80%9CTitanic%E2%80%9D,foot%20yacht%2C%20dubbed%20Vava%20II.

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Last week, the "Titanic" alum spent his New Year's Eve aboard billionaire Ernesto Bertarelli's $150 million, 315-foot yacht, dubbed Vava II. Other major players at the starry bash included Jeff Bezos and his girlfriend Lauren Sanchez, Drake, Meek Mill and Jake Paul.

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Billionaires own yachts like that, not actors.

At least he didn't take a cruise on a Royal Caribbean tub or the like, since they can burn 1000s of gallons of fuel per hour.

https://cruises.lovetoknow.com/wiki/How_Much_Fuel_Does_a_Cruise_Ship_Use

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The Guardian reported that the Harmony, owned by Royal Caribbean, has two four-story high, 16-cylinder Wrtsil engines. At full power, they would burn around 1,377 gallons of fuel per hour, or about 66,000 gallons a day of high-polluting diesel fuel. It's important to note that Harmony of the Seas was the biggest cruise ship in the world until the new Symphony of the Seas took to the water in 2017.

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Oh look, another entertainment board thread derailed by atmag vomiting annoyingness all over it. Sweet.

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Oh look. More proof that this board is a liberal group-think safe space that can't handle having their beliefs challenged.

Sapper expressing liberal BS: A-okay
Conservative expession : vomit

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I'm far from liberal and I am generally suspicious of most climate change assertions. My stances and beliefs are mutually exclusive to me finding you incredibly obnoxious in general.

Tobias Funke said:

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Tobias Funke said:

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Oh look, another entertainment board thread derailed by atmag vomiting annoyingness all over it. Sweet.

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Oh look. More proof that this board is a liberal group-think safe space that can't handle having their beliefs challenged.

Sapper expressing liberal BS: A-okay
Conservative expession : vomit

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I'm far from liberal and I am generally suspicious of most climate change assertions. My stances and beliefs are mutually exclusive to me finding you incredibly obnoxious in general.

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Somehow, I don't believe you.

But at least I know I annoy you. That is another feather in my cap for the day.

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Oh look, another entertainment board thread derailed by atmag vomiting annoyingness all over it. Sweet.

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Oh look. More proof that this board is a liberal group-think safe space that can't handle having their beliefs challenged.

Sapper expressing liberal BS: A-okay
Conservative expession : vomit

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I'm far from liberal and I am generally suspicious of most climate change assertions. My stances and beliefs are mutually exclusive to me finding you incredibly obnoxious in general.

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Somehow, I don't believe you.

But at least I know I annoy you. That is another feather in my cap for the day.

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Cultural misappropriation!!!!

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I didn't watch it but given the comments here about the liberal propaganda bs and global warming preachiness, guess what? I still won't watch it, I'll say I did, and then tell everyone I know that it's a crap movie and that's it's not worth their time so they dont watch it either.

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Glad you came and posted on the thread about it. Everyone was eagerly awaiting you to come say that you have no desire to see the movie, and now we can happily go about our lives knowing that it's no longer a mystery. Such a great addition to the conversation.

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Well you're welcome. Here's one more addition since you asked.

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You think Leo owns that yacht?
"This is Leo aboard his megayacht"

https://pagesix.com/2022/01/05/leonardo-dicaprio-lounges-on-a-yacht-with-pal-lukas-haas/#:~:text=Last%20week%2C%20the%20%E2%80%9CTitanic%E2%80%9D,foot%20yacht%2C%20dubbed%20Vava%20II.

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Last week, the "Titanic" alum spent his New Year's Eve aboard billionaire Ernesto Bertarelli's $150 million, 315-foot yacht, dubbed Vava II. Other major players at the starry bash included Jeff Bezos and his girlfriend Lauren Sanchez, Drake, Meek Mill and Jake Paul.

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Billionaires own yachts like that, not actors.

At least he didn't take a cruise on a Royal Caribbean tub or the like, since they can burn 1000s of gallons of fuel per hour.

https://cruises.lovetoknow.com/wiki/How_Much_Fuel_Does_a_Cruise_Ship_Use

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The Guardian reported that the Harmony, owned by Royal Caribbean, has two four-story high, 16-cylinder Wrtsil engines. At full power, they would burn around 1,377 gallons of fuel per hour, or about 66,000 gallons a day of high-polluting diesel fuel. It's important to note that Harmony of the Seas was the biggest cruise ship in the world until the new Symphony of the Seas took to the water in 2017.

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Really? Comparing fuel usage of a yacht with 10 people vs a cruise ship with 5000? What a dumb retort. Doesn't matter who owns it. He's on a vessel for his own pleasure that is burning several 100s of gallons of fuel per person per day. Plus the private plane to get there which burned another several hundred gallons of fuel per person. Yet he preaches to do your part for climate change. Definition of a hypocrite.

'oh at least he's not on a Southwest flight which burns 750 gallons an hour!'
Again, that's about 4 gallons per person or 10-12 per typical flight.

But why would you charge for snacks that are free in the Whitehouse?

Back from the grave! I thought the only reason this movie was entertaining was Jonah Hill, Timothee Chalamet, and surprisingly J Law. Without those characters, this movie would have been god awful. Timothee Chalamet continues his streak of just nailing everything he is a part of.

As far as the debate going on here, my opinion is that if you are serious about combatting CO2 emissions to save the world, then the only realistic solution right now is nuclear power. If combatting pollution is what you are concerned about, then the only realistic solutions are nuclear power and natural gas. If you are not actively promoting or fighting for those options, then you are either a useful idiot for the people making money off solar and wind power, or just aren't serious about the issue.

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Back from the grave! I thought the only reason this movie was entertaining was Jonah Hill, Timothee Chalamet, and surprisingly J Law. Without those characters, this movie would have been god awful. Timothee Chalamet continues his streak of just nailing everything he is a part of.

As far as the debate going on here, my opinion is that if you are serious about combatting CO2 emissions to save the world, then the only realistic solution right now is nuclear power. If combatting pollution is what you are concerned about, then the only realistic solutions are nuclear power and natural gas. If you are not actively promoting or fighting for those options, then you are either a useful idiot for the people making money off solar and wind power, or just aren't serious about the issue.

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And somebody needs to slap a fine on those volcanoes all over the world. They are huge polluters.

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Back from the grave! I thought the only reason this movie was entertaining was Jonah Hill, Timothee Chalamet, and surprisingly J Law. Without those characters, this movie would have been god awful. Timothee Chalamet continues his streak of just nailing everything he is a part of.

As far as the debate going on here, my opinion is that if you are serious about combatting CO2 emissions to save the world, then the only realistic solution right now is nuclear power. If combatting pollution is what you are concerned about, then the only realistic solutions are nuclear power and natural gas. If you are not actively promoting or fighting for those options, then you are either a useful idiot for the people making money off solar and wind power, or just aren't serious about the issue.

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And somebody needs to slap a fine on those volcanoes all over the world. They are huge polluters.

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Tell it again!

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I didn't watch it but given the comments here about the liberal propaganda bs and global warming preachiness, guess what? I still won't watch it, I'll say I did, and then tell everyone I know that it's a crap movie and that's it's not worth their time so they dont watch it either.

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Glad you came and posted on the thread about it. Everyone was eagerly awaiting you to come say that you have no desire to see the movie, and now we can happily go about our lives knowing that it's no longer a mystery. Such a great addition to the conversation.

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Well you're welcome. Here's one more addition since you asked.

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You think Leo owns that yacht?
"This is Leo aboard his megayacht"

https://pagesix.com/2022/01/05/leonardo-dicaprio-lounges-on-a-yacht-with-pal-lukas-haas/#:~:text=Last%20week%2C%20the%20%E2%80%9CTitanic%E2%80%9D,foot%20yacht%2C%20dubbed%20Vava%20II.

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Last week, the "Titanic" alum spent his New Year's Eve aboard billionaire Ernesto Bertarelli's $150 million, 315-foot yacht, dubbed Vava II. Other major players at the starry bash included Jeff Bezos and his girlfriend Lauren Sanchez, Drake, Meek Mill and Jake Paul.

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Billionaires own yachts like that, not actors.

At least he didn't take a cruise on a Royal Caribbean tub or the like, since they can burn 1000s of gallons of fuel per hour.

https://cruises.lovetoknow.com/wiki/How_Much_Fuel_Does_a_Cruise_Ship_Use

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The Guardian reported that the Harmony, owned by Royal Caribbean, has two four-story high, 16-cylinder Wrtsil engines. At full power, they would burn around 1,377 gallons of fuel per hour, or about 66,000 gallons a day of high-polluting diesel fuel. It's important to note that Harmony of the Seas was the biggest cruise ship in the world until the new Symphony of the Seas took to the water in 2017.

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Really? Comparing fuel usage of a yacht with 10 people vs a cruise ship with 5000? What a dumb retort. Doesn't matter who owns it. He's on a vessel for his own pleasure that is burning several 100s of gallons of fuel per person per day. Plus the private plane to get there which burned another several hundred gallons of fuel per person. Yet he preaches to do your part for climate change. Definition of a hypocrite.

'oh at least he's not on a Southwest flight which burns 750 gallons an hour!'
Again, that's about 4 gallons per person or 10-12 per typical flight.

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Well that's certainly a convenient position to take since the meme said Leo owns the megayacht that burns 300 gallons of fuel an hour and had a picture of Leo lounging on his luxury liner.

If it didn't matter who actually owned it why would the meme makers lie about it? Obviously because owning the monstrosity is more hypocritical than partying a day on it.

Sorry your meme lied for effect. If it helps the meme makers knew that the intended audience would hardly push back if that slight exaggeration was pointed out. Cough.

Edit (for fun on the other part):
The Vava II holds a little over 50 people if you don't have a party with a lot more people than that on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vava_II

https://pagesix.com/2022/01/03/leonardo-dicaprio-jeff-bezos-drake-ring-in-nye-on-st-barts-yacht/

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We hear the night started with a dinner at Akiva's, but then moved to Swiss billionaire Bertarelli's $150 million, 315-foot yacht, Vava II, at around 1:30 a.m.

"Going Bad" rapper Meek Mill performed, while Philadelphia 76ers co-owner Michael Rubin and YouTuber-turned-boxer Jake Paul got into the DJ booth to party while he played.
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So let's say closer to 50 (likely a lot more) than the 10 people you hypothesized were with Leo.
50 goes into 300 gallons per hour - six times!
What was your quote for the SW flight?

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'oh at least he's not on a Southwest flight which burns 750 gallons an hour!'
Again, that's about 4 gallons per person or 10-12 per typical flight.

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So for Leo (using a conservative number of 50 for the celebrity yacht party, including crew) - that's 6 gallons per person (if the boat was furiously circling the island rather than anchored).

Doh!
I had too much fun doing this as evidenced by the edits.

Okay... so who gets to decide how many gallons per person is acceptable for recreation? Did the 6 gallons per person NEED to be used? Was it to get him to work so he could make ends meet?

Why should anyone get to do anything recreationally if it even has the smallest fraction of a carbon footprint?

Again, most of our issues are not with someone saying something is true. It is the idea that person believes he or she has the right to tell us how to live our lives. It is especially maddening when they themselves live an extravagant life, and justify it by saying they have to do it so they can champion the greater good.

This is how we get oligarchies and totalitarianism. When will Leo and his cronies come to my door and tell me I can't drive the car I want? Or eat the food I want? When do they force the trucking industry to use a certain vehicle that drives up shipping costs and makes food more expensive for lower income families in the city?

When they do that and families can't afford the food, they will say I need to pay more taxes to provide more social welfare. They will tell our businesses they must pay those people a higher minimum wage, which will then increase the cost of goods/services. Now we are back to where we began.

During all of this over reaching, you know how it will affect Leo's life? How will it affect AOC's life? Not at all.

This is why those of us who prioritize freedom above all else tell you and your cohorts to go **** yourselves.

Give me liberty or give me death. If the liberty of myself and all others eventually leads to the destruction of this planet, then so be it.

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If the liberty of myself and all others eventually leads to the destruction of this planet, then so be it.

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You'll get no push back from me that celebrities, including Leo, are hypocrites on the issue DTA.

Leo shouldn't have been partying on an island on a yacht on NYE if he's serious about everyone else doing their part, regardless of the levity I had with the meme and subsequent posts regarding same.

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La Bamba said:

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I didn't watch it but given the comments here about the liberal propaganda bs and global warming preachiness, guess what? I still won't watch it, I'll say I did, and then tell everyone I know that it's a crap movie and that's it's not worth their time so they dont watch it either.

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Glad you came and posted on the thread about it. Everyone was eagerly awaiting you to come say that you have no desire to see the movie, and now we can happily go about our lives knowing that it's no longer a mystery. Such a great addition to the conversation.

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Well you're welcome. Here's one more addition since you asked.

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You think Leo owns that yacht?
"This is Leo aboard his megayacht"

https://pagesix.com/2022/01/05/leonardo-dicaprio-lounges-on-a-yacht-with-pal-lukas-haas/#:~:text=Last%20week%2C%20the%20%E2%80%9CTitanic%E2%80%9D,foot%20yacht%2C%20dubbed%20Vava%20II.

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Last week, the "Titanic" alum spent his New Year's Eve aboard billionaire Ernesto Bertarelli's $150 million, 315-foot yacht, dubbed Vava II. Other major players at the starry bash included Jeff Bezos and his girlfriend Lauren Sanchez, Drake, Meek Mill and Jake Paul.

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Billionaires own yachts like that, not actors.

At least he didn't take a cruise on a Royal Caribbean tub or the like, since they can burn 1000s of gallons of fuel per hour.

https://cruises.lovetoknow.com/wiki/How_Much_Fuel_Does_a_Cruise_Ship_Use

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The Guardian reported that the Harmony, owned by Royal Caribbean, has two four-story high, 16-cylinder Wrtsil engines. At full power, they would burn around 1,377 gallons of fuel per hour, or about 66,000 gallons a day of high-polluting diesel fuel. It's important to note that Harmony of the Seas was the biggest cruise ship in the world until the new Symphony of the Seas took to the water in 2017.

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Really? Comparing fuel usage of a yacht with 10 people vs a cruise ship with 5000? What a dumb retort. Doesn't matter who owns it. He's on a vessel for his own pleasure that is burning several 100s of gallons of fuel per person per day. Plus the private plane to get there which burned another several hundred gallons of fuel per person. Yet he preaches to do your part for climate change. Definition of a hypocrite.

'oh at least he's not on a Southwest flight which burns 750 gallons an hour!'
Again, that's about 4 gallons per person or 10-12 per typical flight.

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Well that's certainly a convenient position to take since the meme said Leo owns the megayacht that burns 300 gallons of fuel an hour and had a picture of Leo lounging on his luxury liner.

If it didn't matter who actually owned it why would the meme makers lie about it? Obviously because owning the monstrosity is more hypocritical than partying a day on it.

Sorry your meme lied for effect. If it helps the meme makers knew that the intended audience would hardly push back if that slight exaggeration was pointed out. Cough.

Edit (for fun on the other part):
The Vava II holds a little over 50 people if you don't have a party with a lot more people than that on it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vava_II

https://pagesix.com/2022/01/03/leonardo-dicaprio-jeff-bezos-drake-ring-in-nye-on-st-barts-yacht/

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We hear the night started with a dinner at Akiva's, but then moved to Swiss billionaire Bertarelli's $150 million, 315-foot yacht, Vava II, at around 1:30 a.m.

"Going Bad" rapper Meek Mill performed, while Philadelphia 76ers co-owner Michael Rubin and YouTuber-turned-boxer Jake Paul got into the DJ booth to party while he played.
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So let's say closer to 50 (likely a lot more) than the 10 people you hypothesized were with Leo.
50 goes into 300 gallons per hour - six times!
What was your quote for the SW flight?

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'oh at least he's not on a Southwest flight which burns 750 gallons an hour!'
Again, that's about 4 gallons per person or 10-12 per typical flight.

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So for Leo (using a conservative number of 50 for the celebrity yacht party, including crew) - that's 6 gallons per person (if the boat was furiously circling the island rather than anchored).

Doh!
I had too much fun doing this as evidenced by the edits.

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So private yacht 6 gal/hr vs SW flight 4 gal/hr. The boat isn't just floating out in the middle of the ocean. They gotta get out there and get back. Again, plus the highly probable private flight to the boat.

Yeh, so the hypocritical celebrity is using 50% more fuel per hour than a typical SW passenger.

Not sure what you're trying to prove?

The point is stupid, but the numbers used pretty dumb too. A yacht that size under way is probly gonna burn 10,000 gallons a day. Thats what 500 gph?

Plus that thing is running generators, crews, maintenance, 24/7/365, not just when its hauling ass to monaco.

How much fuel do 4 plus people commuting to that thing every day use in a year? Etc., etc.,

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Okay... so who gets to decide how many gallons per person is acceptable for recreation? Did the 6 gallons per person NEED to be used? Was it to get him to work so he could make ends meet?

Why should anyone get to do anything recreationally if it even has the smallest fraction of a carbon footprint?

Again, most of our issues are not with someone saying something is true. It is the idea that person believes he or she has the right to tell us how to live our lives. It is especially maddening when they themselves live an extravagant life, and justify it by saying they have to do it so they can champion the greater good.

This is how we get oligarchies and totalitarianism. When will Leo and his cronies come to my door and tell me I can't drive the car I want? Or eat the food I want? When do they force the trucking industry to use a certain vehicle that drives up shipping costs and makes food more expensive for lower income families in the city?

When they do that and families can't afford the food, they will say I need to pay more taxes to provide more social welfare. They will tell our businesses they must pay those people a higher minimum wage, which will then increase the cost of goods/services. Now we are back to where we began.

During all of this over reaching, you know how it will affect Leo's life? How will it affect AOC's life? Not at all.

This is why those of us who prioritize freedom above all else tell you and your cohorts to go **** yourselves.

Give me liberty or give me death. If the liberty of myself and all others eventually leads to the destruction of this planet, then so be it.

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Was with you 100% until I got to the bolded part. Then you went and blew it all up with the unhinged rantings of a mad man.

Freedom and social responsibility go hand-in-hand. What you're referring to as "freedom," the rest of us simply call "selfishness." For some reason, the last few years have given a swath of this country a reason to confuse the two. Freedom doesn't mean "I can do whatever the f/ck I want, consequences be damned." Instead, in a civil society, freedom *also* involves a consent to be governed, and an agreed upon attempt to live in a state of relative harmony with the rest of the population. And sometimes that involves putting the well-being of your fellow man before your precious "freedom"/selfishness. Now, can there be overreach in that regard? Absolutely, and obviously it's our job to keep that overreach in check. Again, I'm with you all the way in the vast majority of your post. But your "Give me liberty or give me death" is a PERSONAL choice. "Death," in this instance, doesn't mean death in any broader sense outside of oneself. Freedom doesn't mean YOU having the right to make decisions that might cost OTHERS their lives. It's funny how you can essentially say, "You're not going to restrict me," while arguing that you somehow have the right to "restrict" the lives of others, going so far as to say your right to freedom is more important than others' rights to live. You essentially said the rest of the world can burn as long as you retain the right do whatever the f/ck you want. Talk about juvenile thinking, and a gross misunderstanding of what freedom truly is.

Meryl Streep improvised a different presidential phone call for ✨ every single take ✨ of the Oval Office scene in DON'T LOOK UP.

Here are 10 of them. https://t.co/inTvpVpBcJ pic.twitter.com/7XAe51z6AZ

— NetflixFilm (@NetflixFilm) January 12, 2022

Lol... hyperbolic on my end about something I don't truly believe. It is me dismissing all of it because I don't believe any of it.

But by all means, focus on the hyperbole in my statement.

It is same as you walking by a dude on the street with a sign saying all the sinners need to repent and change their lives or God will judge the country with fire and brimstone, and you just say, "nope, imma stick with my sinful life, thanks!" You don't truly believe the country is going to be judged.

EDIT: Oh, and welcome back. Our lives have not been the same without you.

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Lol... hyperbolic on my end about something I don't truly believe. It is me dismissing all of it because I don't believe any of it.

But by all means, focus on the hyperbole in my statement.

It is same as you walking by a dude on the street with a sign saying all the sinners need to repent and change their lives or God will judge the country with fire and brimstone, and you just say, "nope, imma stick with my sinful life, thanks!" You don't truly believe the country is going to be judged.

EDIT: Oh, and welcome back. Our lives have not been the same without you.

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The guy on the street corner in your analogy is a Ph.D in the relevant field who has done research for decades, knows the information a thousand times better than you, has peer-reviewed research and data, supported by current measurements, and even has his opponents secretly admitting he's right.

People really can't help themselves, can they.

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Meryl Streep improvised a different presidential phone call for ✨ every single take ✨ of the Oval Office scene in DON'T LOOK UP.

Here are 10 of them. https://t.co/inTvpVpBcJ pic.twitter.com/7XAe51z6AZ

— NetflixFilm (@NetflixFilm) January 12, 2022

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"do I have to take an antibiotic again?"

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You'll get no push back from me that celebrities, including Leo, are hypocrites on the issue DTA.

Leo shouldn't have been partying on an island on a yacht on NYE if he's serious about everyone else doing their part, regardless of the levity I had with the meme and subsequent posts regarding same.

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Or flying private, or having his own private megabus, or owning numerous mansions, or having the individual carbon footprint of several hundred avg US families. Same with the Obamas and Algores of the world.

One thing we can agree on is that the hypocrisy is mind-numbing. I have no problem with celebrities using their influence/platforms for causes they're passionate about. But when they do, it's absolutely imperative they walk the walk, or they just end up doing more harm than good.

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One thing we can agree on is that the hypocrisy is mind-numbing. I have no problem with celebrities using their influence/platforms for causes they're passionate about. But when they do, it's absolutely imperative they walk the walk, or they just end up doing more harm than good.

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Agree with this. Good reminder that money can't buy intelligence and often corrupts ethics.

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One thing we can agree on is that the hypocrisy is mind-numbing. I have no problem with celebrities using their influence/platforms for causes they're passionate about. But when they do, it's absolutely imperative they walk the walk, or they just end up doing more harm than good.

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Ricky Gervais was right.

Boats still use a ton of fuel while anchored. Just pointing that out. The generators on that thing aren't small and I imagine the load is not insignificant.

Eta - I see cbr already touched on that

This thread is a strong F16 contender…that's awesome!

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One thing we can agree on is that the hypocrisy is mind-numbing. I have no problem with celebrities using their influence/platforms for causes they're passionate about. But when they do, it's absolutely imperative they walk the walk, or they just end up doing more harm than good.

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So this is timely, lol


https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/yachts-be-exempt-eus-carbon-pricing-plan

Zerohedge. Lol. It has to do with how they choose to regulate the way the boats produce carbon. As it currently stands, it has big loopholes for certain commercial boats and, yes, many yachts fall under that. This isn't the final draft of the regulation.

I know I'm late to the game here, but that was a bottom five movie. So much promise; so little delivery. Probably the biggest disappointment for me since Bonfire of the Vanities and the Dennis Franchione era.

Liked it a lot