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Satellite of Love said:

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Basically any movie or tv show that tried to keep a caller on the line so they could "trace the call." Only problem is we know instantly where someone is calling from on a landline. It's a landline with a set phone number. There is no need figure out where they are calling from. We know based on the number.

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When I was a kid, caller id did not exist and tracing a call meant determining the phone number so you could locate the address. It took "X" minutes to decipher the number and then search the database for the address.

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30 more seconds, it's a payphone on the west side.

expresswrittenconsent said:

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taxpreparer said:

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Satellite of Love said:

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Basically any movie or tv show that tried to keep a caller on the line so they could "trace the call." Only problem is we know instantly where someone is calling from on a landline. It's a landline with a set phone number. There is no need figure out where they are calling from. We know based on the number.

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When I was a kid, caller id did not exist and tracing a call meant determining the phone number so you could locate the address. It took "X" minutes to decipher the number and then search the database for the address.

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30 more seconds, it's a payphone on the west side.

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Even the most sophisticated intelligence agency in the world (IMF) needed 90 seconds or so to trace calls.

In the Caviezel remake I don't care that Albert is Dante's' biological son but in any remake Mercedes does not belong with Edmond. I get that they had to cut Haydee from the script for timing purposes but it still pisses me off that Mercedes is able to seduce him. Nothing is allowed to hinder the Count's vengeance. That being said it's still one my top 3 movies(though I need to see the old Count of Monte Cristo according to V for Vendetta).

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Been complaining about this since 7th grade. Why did Raiden get a haircut in the middle of the movie??? Like why? What purpose did it serve? He's the god of thunder and randomly gets a 3 on the sides and a little of the top, swept back. Even the characters had their dialogue written to say WTF.




Can't link to exact moment, but here it is:

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TresPuertas said:

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Furlock Bones said:

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expresswrittenconsent said:

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Michael Mann movies almost always feature a few amazing scenes, but rarely hold up start to finish.

But when he is on his game (final scene of mohicans, about 2/3s of collateral, the gunfight in heat, etc) it is an immediate stop down if you're flipping channels.

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i'm still pissed that he let Jamie Foxx ruin Miami Vice.

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I've got to admit that movie is a guilty pleasure of mine. I
Love it

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Same here. But I can only imagine how much better it would have been if Mann was allowed to finish it the way he wanted. Had to rewrite the ending because Foxx wouldn't go back to the DR.

I realize this is extreme nit-picking but James Bond ordering vodka martinis drives me crazy. He's a British spy, why doesn't he drink gin instead of vodka? I've never read the books, so this could be a criticism of both the books and movies. In Skyfall we learn he's from Scotland, perhaps he should be a scotch drinker. But at the end of the day, I feel he should be a gin-swilling super spy. Perhaps this has to do with my own prejudices of what a man should or shouldn't drink, and at the top of the list of spirits a man shouldn't drink is vodka. I've heard people complain about him ordering a shaken martini vs stirred, because a shaken martini is more watered down...who cares if it's watered down, it's vodka.



Men drink whiskey.




Unless it's moonshine

And dances with wolves the sunset is both in front of and behind Kevin Costner in the same shot.

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I realize this is extreme nit-picking but James Bond ordering vodka martinis drives me crazy. He's a British spy, why doesn't he drink gin instead of vodka? I've never read the books, so this could be a criticism of both the books and movies. In Skyfall we learn he's from Scotland, perhaps he should be a scotch drinker. But at the end of the day, I feel he should be a gin-swilling super spy. Perhaps this has to do with my own prejudices of what a man should or shouldn't drink, and at the top of the list of spirits a man shouldn't drink is vodka. I've heard people complain about him ordering a shaken martini vs stirred, because a shaken martini is more watered down...who cares if it's watered down, it's vodka.



Men drink whiskey.




Unless it's moonshine

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That he orders them vodka, shaken is to drive home the point that he isnt really a dapper man of class but a common ruffian who doesnt quit fit in.

Duncan Idaho said:

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Max Power said:

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I realize this is extreme nit-picking but James Bond ordering vodka martinis drives me crazy. He's a British spy, why doesn't he drink gin instead of vodka? I've never read the books, so this could be a criticism of both the books and movies. In Skyfall we learn he's from Scotland, perhaps he should be a scotch drinker. But at the end of the day, I feel he should be a gin-swilling super spy. Perhaps this has to do with my own prejudices of what a man should or shouldn't drink, and at the top of the list of spirits a man shouldn't drink is vodka. I've heard people complain about him ordering a shaken martini vs stirred, because a shaken martini is more watered down...who cares if it's watered down, it's vodka.



Men drink whiskey.




Unless it's moonshine

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That he orders them vodka, shaken is to drive home the point that he isnt really a dapper man of class but a common ruffian who doesnt quit fit in.

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It's also a nod to the books. The Vesper is introduced by Ian Fleming in the first book.

Tradition among martini elitists holds that shaking "bruises" the gin somehow. Stirring and shaking both dilute the base spirit in any cocktail. However, I stir when the clarity of the finished cocktail is important and shake when the ingredients need to be mixed really well. Always stir a Sazerac and shake a daiquiri, for example. And obviously you should never shake anything with carbonated mixers unless you like making a mess.

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If we're going to chase the time paradox rabbit....

For storytelling sake I've found that the best way to look at time travel is that each traveller has their own personal timeline that is free from paradoxes. As time is based on perspective so it is for the traveller. For instance in the grandfather paradox you would still exist because for your personal timeline you'd still be alive because it was in your past, not the universe's(or collective timelines of all the other people's past that you changed). As such in the hypothetical grandfather paradox scenario you could return to the present after killing your grandfather but your family/friends wouldn't recognize you because you diverted the timeline for the perspectives of the people that knew you even though your own personal timeline remains the same as it happened in your past. So basically once we experience something it is permanent on the timeline from our perspective. So for the universe this would mean that there are infinite potential timelines but only one active timeline in said universe, which can change when the time traveller interferes and other's perspectives change. This even allows you to shift the timelines of your past self though that will be an entirely different person's perspective that lives in the universal timeline that you created.

Ironically they followed this in BTTF(might just be lazy time travel writing) as Marty still remember's his mom was overweight and his dad was a loser before the jump to the timeline where they were successful. Though it still does not explain why older Biff returned to 2015 as he should have jumped into the changed future and Marty's perspective should have changed.

Full disclosure I got this method of time travel explanation from my favorite show, Steins;Gate, an anime about time travel. It has a ton of references to other time travel shows like BTTF and Dr Who, they even call their time travel messages DeLorean Mail.

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Christmas Vacation - Clark crashes through the ceiling of Rusty's room when he's caught in the attic, but instead of climbing through the hole and going to lunch, he stays in the attic dressed in old lady clothes.

Varsity Blues - Billy Bob clearly falls over before the snap on the play where Lance Harbor is injured so it should have been blown dead. Also, why the hell was the last game of the regular season their last game of the entire year? I was under the impression they won district.

My one complaint for Empire Strikes Back -

When Vader force pulls Han's blaster into his hand on Cloud City, when he catches it, it's pretty clear that gun was tossed into his hand from someone offscreen.

I wish they had come up with a better way to sell that one shot.

An old one, but in Beverly Hills cop, the two bad guys bring the box with the bearer bonds into the warehouse, unpack it, then leave again. If I remember right they put the crate back in the truck. So why were they there at all?

Iron Eagle, obviously there would be many:

1. Their home training area has the exact same geography as the place they attack.

2. They would so be in prison.

Ranger #007 said:

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Christmas Vacation - Clark crashes through the ceiling of Rusty's room when he's caught in the attic, but instead of climbing through the hole and going to lunch, he stays in the attic dressed in old lady clothes.

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and why would he sit on the door?

Frok said:

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Ranger #007 said:

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Christmas Vacation - Clark crashes through the ceiling of Rusty's room when he's caught in the attic, but instead of climbing through the hole and going to lunch, he stays in the attic dressed in old lady clothes.

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and why would he sit on the door?

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Or not start yelling as soon as his MIL closed it.

In Empire Strikes Back Han Solo's Ton Ton freezes to death but he doesn't. The Ton Ton is a 600 pound animal with fur that had adapted to the climate on Hoth and Solo was a 180 lb human wearing a thin parka.

My longstanding complaint with action films: Have you ever counted the number of collisions between innocent bystanders caused by the "action hero" during car chases? Why is the good guy's agenda (either escaping or catching a bad guy) more important than the lives of all the other people who happen to be driving at that time?!?

Moreover, the cars driven by the chaser and the chased always have indestructible suspension parts. Try running over a curb at any speed over 10 mph in a stock, off-the-showroom-floor car.

While we are on Christmas Vacation...

The movie is almost flawless in every scene being funny except for the sled scene. It's just dumb. And to top it all off, Eddie saying "bingo" at the end is incredibly cheesy and unfunny.

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In Empire Strikes Back Han Solo's Ton Ton freezes to death but he doesn't. The Ton Ton is a 600 pound animal with fur that had adapted to the climate on Hoth and Solo was a 180 lb human wearing a thin parka.

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The Tauntaun, and dynamite spelling by the way, has been exerting itself for at least an hour and probably more carrying a 180-pound human on its back, which it hasn't done very many times before, given Piett's line that the Hoth system is supposed to be devoid of life forms.

Moreover, the deck officer tells Han Solo specifically that "your Tauntaun will freeze before you make it past the first marker." So, that would suggest that Tauntauns do not spend the nighttime on Hoth outside, probably in a burrow somewhere.

Third, I'm guessing that people who have developed faster-than-light travel and planet-destroying superlasers may have made some advancements in clothing that works well in extreme climates.

Deck officer? DECK OFFICER!!!!

MuckRaker96 said:

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bonfarr said:

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In Empire Strikes Back Han Solo's Ton Ton freezes to death but he doesn't. The Ton Ton is a 600 pound animal with fur that had adapted to the climate on Hoth and Solo was a 180 lb human wearing a thin parka.

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The Tauntaun, and dynamite spelling by the way, has been exerting itself for at least an hour and probably more carrying a 180-pound human on its back, which it hasn't done very many times before, given Piett's line that the Hoth system is supposed to be devoid of life forms.

Moreover, the deck officer tells Han Solo specifically that "your Tauntaun will freeze before you make it past the first marker." So, that would suggest that Tauntauns do not spend the nighttime on Hoth outside, probably in a burrow somewhere.

Third, I'm guessing that people who have developed faster-than-light travel and planet-destroying superlasers may have made some advancements in clothing that works well in extreme climates.

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MuckRaker96 said:

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bonfarr said:

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In Empire Strikes Back Han Solo's Ton Ton freezes to death but he doesn't. The Ton Ton is a 600 pound animal with fur that had adapted to the climate on Hoth and Solo was a 180 lb human wearing a thin parka.

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The Tauntaun, and dynamite spelling by the way, has been exerting itself for at least an hour and probably more carrying a 180-pound human on its back, which it hasn't done very many times before, given Piett's line that the Hoth system is supposed to be devoid of life forms.

Moreover, the deck officer tells Han Solo specifically that "your Tauntaun will freeze before you make it past the first marker." So, that would suggest that Tauntauns do not spend the nighttime on Hoth outside, probably in a burrow somewhere.

Third, I'm guessing that people who have developed faster-than-light travel and planet-destroying superlasers may have made some advancements in clothing that works well in extreme climates.

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I will read your post in the voice of Comic Book Guy. That parka was straight off the rack at REI with a Purina logo added on it. You would think it would make sense to give the animal the same protection as the human if their advanced technology made their jackets super warm. Maybe an Ion powered horse blanket or something?

MuckRaker96 said:

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bonfarr said:

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In Empire Strikes Back Han Solo's Ton Ton freezes to death but he doesn't. The Ton Ton is a 600 pound animal with fur that had adapted to the climate on Hoth and Solo was a 180 lb human wearing a thin parka.

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The Tauntaun, and dynamite spelling by the way, has been exerting itself for at least an hour and probably more carrying a 180-pound human on its back, which it hasn't done very many times before, given Piett's line that the Hoth system is supposed to be devoid of life forms.

Moreover, the deck officer tells Han Solo specifically that "your Tauntaun will freeze before you make it past the first marker." So, that would suggest that Tauntauns do not spend the nighttime on Hoth outside, probably in a burrow somewhere.

Third, I'm guessing that people who have developed faster-than-light travel and planet-destroying superlasers may have made some advancements in clothing that works well in extreme climates.

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Then I'll see you in hell!

Han, Finn and Grievous the only non-Jedi to use a lightsaber in a SW movie?

Re-racking loaded weapons is a mild annoyance.... gunplay in almost any movie before the early 00's and even some since.

Last of the Mohicans - filmed primarily in North Carolina - so beautiful imagery thats terribly inaccurate geographically.

Bothers me that no one acknowledges:

Willow is a cheap Lord of the rings
Avatar is a very expensive Fern Gully
Raiden and to a greater extent Mortal Combat is a derivative of Big Trouble Little China

Also, in The Last Crusade.... why did the knight stay there all that time if the temple prevented the removal of the cup?

Quote:

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Willow is a cheap Lord of the rings

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You watch your tongue Peck!

Quote:

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Also, in The Last Crusade.... why did the knight stay there all that time if the temple prevented the removal of the cup?

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The temple was protecting the cup so that only a worthy man who would protect it and not just sell it for riches could get to it. The knight was there to make sure it went to that man. Then his watch was over.

MuckRaker96 said:

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bonfarr said:

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In Empire Strikes Back Han Solo's Ton Ton freezes to death but he doesn't. The Ton Ton is a 600 pound animal with fur that had adapted to the climate on Hoth and Solo was a 180 lb human wearing a thin parka.

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The Tauntaun, and dynamite spelling by the way, has been exerting itself for at least an hour and probably more carrying a 180-pound human on its back, which it hasn't done very many times before, given Piett's line that the Hoth system is supposed to be devoid of life forms.

Moreover, the deck officer tells Han Solo specifically that "your Tauntaun will freeze before you make it past the first marker." So, that would suggest that Tauntauns do not spend the nighttime on Hoth outside, probably in a burrow somewhere.

Third, I'm guessing that people who have developed faster-than-light travel and planet-destroying superlasers may have made some advancements in clothing that works well in extreme climates.

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Texaggie7nine said:

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While we are on Christmas Vacation...

The movie is almost flawless in every scene being funny except for the sled scene. It's just dumb. And to top it all off, Eddie saying "bingo" at the end is incredibly cheesy and unfunny.

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Disagree.

Yelnick McWawa said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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While we are on Christmas Vacation...

The movie is almost flawless in every scene being funny except for the sled scene. It's just dumb. And to top it all off, Eddie saying "bingo" at the end is incredibly cheesy and unfunny.

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Disagree.

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I'm with you. Every Vacation movie has some off-the-wall stunt. Vacation -- "50 yards" and the whole family sleeping in the moving car. Euro -- knocking down Stonehenge. Vegas -- Hoover Dam.

And without the sled scene, you wouldn't have one of the best lines in the movie: 'You really think it matters, Ed?"

HtownAg92 said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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While we are on Christmas Vacation...

The movie is almost flawless in every scene being funny except for the sled scene. It's just dumb. And to top it all off, Eddie saying "bingo" at the end is incredibly cheesy and unfunny.

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Disagree.

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I'm with you. Every Vacation movie has some off-the-wall stunt. Vacation -- "50 yards" and the whole family sleeping in the moving car. Euro -- knocking down Stonehenge. Vegas -- Hoover Dam.

And without the sled scene, you wouldn't have one of the best lines in the movie: 'You really think it matters, Ed?"

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Think what makes the sled scene dumber is him going 0-200mph in .01 seconds. Would have worked better without the cartoon FX. The other stunt scenes didn't have that.

sw@n said:

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Re-racking loaded weapons is a mild annoyance.... gunplay in almost any movie before the early 00's and even some since.

Last of the Mohicans - filmed primarily in North Carolina - so beautiful imagery thats terribly inaccurate geographically.

Bothers me that no one acknowledges:

Willow is a cheap Lord of the rings
Avatar is a very expensive Fern Gully
Raiden and to a greater extent Mortal Combat is a derivative of Big Trouble Little China

Also, in The Last Crusade.... why did the knight stay there all that time if the temple prevented the removal of the cup?

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Have you been to upstate New York? Whether it was filmed in North Carolina or the moon it still resembles the upper parts of the hudson (like west point) very well. Lush, green, hills, mountains, big ass rocks, rivers & streams, etc.

Sled scene is best scene.

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HtownAg92 said:

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Yelnick McWawa said:

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Texaggie7nine said:

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While we are on Christmas Vacation...

The movie is almost flawless in every scene being funny except for the sled scene. It's just dumb. And to top it all off, Eddie saying "bingo" at the end is incredibly cheesy and unfunny.

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Disagree.

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I'm with you. Every Vacation movie has some off-the-wall stunt. Vacation -- "50 yards" and the whole family sleeping in the moving car. Euro -- knocking down Stonehenge. Vegas -- Hoover Dam.

And without the sled scene, you wouldn't have one of the best lines in the movie: 'You really think it matters, Ed?"

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Think what makes the sled scene dumber is him going 0-200mph in .01 seconds. Would have worked better without the cartoon FX. The other stunt scenes didn't have that.

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And sledding down a road and turning around cars. It's cheap slapstick.