Charlies Angel's Reboot - Why is this a good idea?

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In reply to PDEMDHC • 12:18a, 10/30/19
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Did they reverse it and get Craig Robinson, James Franco, and Chris Pine to be the angels and someone like Jennifer Aniston to be Charlie?
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In reply to Urban Ag • 12:25a, 10/30/19
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Don't get worked up about it. It's his schtick to patrol this board and jump on anyone he thinks is to the right of the average sensibility in CA.

That's not it at all, but good try. The only posts I "jump on" are posts like Tres' OP; posts that assume "wokeness" drives all of Hollywood, or posts that assign false motivations to filmmakers so forum 16 has a boogeyman to vilify. It's not *just* some left vs. right thing. It's trying to dispel a stereotype. That's it and that's all. I have no political affiliation or motivation.
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In reply to TCTTS • 12:37a, 10/30/19
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I wasn't referring to you

edit - I can see how you would have jumped to that conclusion though.

All good.
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In reply to Urban Ag • 12:48a, 10/30/19
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In reply to Brian Earl Spilner • 7:13a, 10/30/19
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Brian Earl Spilner said:
Can we just talk about how hot Cameron Diaz used to be?
Jacqueline Smith will always be the hottest CA in my book.
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10:52a, 10/30/19
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She has so much appeal in her eyes and the way she holds her mouth


This is serial killer talk
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In reply to Urban Ag • 11:09a, 10/30/19
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Kristen Stewart is what I love about women.

And I say that as a very happily married man and father.

I hate that so many women have been brainwashed by a shallow culture to believe they have to be perfect like a Victoria Secret model or an Instagram hooker.

She has so much appeal in her eyes and the way she holds her mouth. It's sexy.

My point is every woman is unique in their own way and sex appeal and beauty comes in many shapes and forms. She never struck me as butch, not even close. So many Hollywood women are not perfect 10's by modeling standards, same for singers, and god bless them for it.
Have any links? asking for a friend...
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3:42p, 10/30/19
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instahook you say?
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In reply to [removed post] • 4:09p, 10/30/19
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PDEMDHC said:
Did they reverse it and get Craig Robinson, James Franco, and Chris Pine to be the angels and someone like Jennifer Aniston to be Charlie?
i would watch that.
Yeah, that actually sounds pretty good.
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In reply to CapCityAg89 • 5:22p, 10/30/19
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Absolutely a thread I would expect from a politics board guy. The movie won't bomb because "people don't want to see 'woke' movies" - the movie will bomb if it's not entertaining; it will be a surprise hit if it IS entertaining. That's it. And yes, it can absolutely be entertaining with a "butch" female lead. No doubts.
Interesting to see the OP's opinions on this thread get treated like the politics board treats people with opposing views.
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In reply to SlimM • 5:54p, 10/30/19
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CapCityAg89 said:
Absolutely a thread I would expect from a politics board guy. The movie won't bomb because "people don't want to see 'woke' movies" - the movie will bomb if it's not entertaining; it will be a surprise hit if it IS entertaining. That's it. And yes, it can absolutely be entertaining with a "butch" female lead. No doubts.
Interesting to see the OP's opinions on this thread get treated like the politics board treats people with opposing views.


Forum 16 deserves to be glassed.

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2:58p, 11/17/19
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Just a heads up:

https://deadline.com/2019/11/charlies-angels-bombs-at-box-office-reasons-why-1202787938/

Looks like nobody wanted to see it.
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In reply to TresPuertas • 3:06p, 11/17/19
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And now Elizabeth Banks - the film's writer/director - is saying the poor performance "reinforces a stereotype in Hollywood that men don't go see women do action movies." Except for, you know, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Mad Max: Fury Road, Star Wars: The Force Awakens, Star Wars: The Last Jedi, and Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, among many, many others.
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In reply to [removed post] • 3:07p, 11/17/19
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Good. The more money that Sony Pictures loses overall, the more likely they are to sell the Movie business to someone else, and the sooner that Disney can get Spider-Man back.

I get the basic sentiment, but this would be terrible for the movie business overall. We don't want Disney owning everything.
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In reply to [removed post] • 3:11p, 11/17/19
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Who's going to buy Sony without Spider-Man?
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In reply to TCTTS • 3:13p, 11/17/19
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And now Elizabeth Banks - the film's writer/director - is saying the poor performance "reinforces a stereotype in Hollywood that men don't go see women do action movies." Except for, you know, Wonder Woman, Captain Marvel, Mad Max: Fury Road, Star Wars: The Force Awakens, Star Wars: The Last Jedi, and Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, among many, many others.
And all 3 Hunger Games movies ... which she was in. An Ocean's 8, which made $140 m US vs. $70 million budget.

The odds are never in her favor.


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In reply to Fat Bib Fortuna • 3:17p, 11/17/19
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She also sh*t on the Spider-Man movies too, saying men have "37 Spider-Man movies" and she was in three of those as well. She just needs to take the L and move on.
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In reply to [removed post] • 3:18p, 11/17/19
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In that case, I might be down. But I still say the fewer studios there are, the worse the movie business and movie theater business will be in the long run.
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3:19p, 11/17/19
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Nobody is buying Sony without Spider-Man and Sony def isn't selling Spider-Man.

I'd love nothing more than for Marvel to gain full control of Spidey, but it's just not gonna happen. Just happy they were able to work out a deal, although eventually they're gonna do this dumb Spidey-Venom crossover and it will be awful without Marvel's hand in it.

At least they knocked it out of the park with Spider Verse
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3:22p, 11/17/19
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Pretty disappointing to hear that from Elizabeth Banks. I've always really liked her, she's always come off as super cool, talented and funny.

That's a complete bull**** excuse though. You made a movie nobody wanted, and put a spin on it that everyone rolled their eyes at. Ultimately, the "wokeness" didn't help but it didn't doom it. It was just a crappy movie, with no real starpower, and didn't look interesting. To blame it on men and saying they should support women is garbage. Olivia Wilde pulled the same crap a few months ago, when she made Supergirlbad.

If anything blame the marketing... if my movie-nerd-self doesn't know about a film, then you did something wrong.
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In reply to Sex Panther • 3:29p, 11/17/19
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In 100% agreement. I've always really liked her, but that was a crap excuse, a next to no-name cast, and apparently just a bad movie overall. It didn't help that it felt like a cheap, "woke" redo from day one, either. That, I'm so sick of studios latching on to ancient IP and thinking that's enough to put butts in seats. Stars still matter. A good story still matters. Relevant IP that's not 40 years old matters. Good news is, this like the umpteenth failure this year of similar, long-since-run-its-course IP and I think studios are finally starting to get the message. Either take more chances on original ideas, or pay for the necessary talent to make something like this something people actually want to see.
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In reply to TCTTS • 3:39p, 11/17/19
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In that case, I might be down. But I still say the fewer studios there are, the worse the movie business and movie theater business will be in the long run.


This reminds me of Tom Herman tossing his players under the bus after taking a loss


/SPORTS!
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3:57p, 11/17/19
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4.3 on IMDB. Woof.

I still kind of want to watch Kristen Stewart stone face her soulless self through this film. She looks pretty hot in the trailer I saw.

Also, wasn't aware she was lesbian now. Is that new?
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In reply to YouBet • 3:58p, 11/17/19
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I think she came out like three or four years ago.
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In reply to Sex Panther • 4:06p, 11/17/19
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Pretty disappointing to hear that from Elizabeth Banks. I've always really liked her, she's always come off as super cool, talented and funny.

That's a complete bull**** excuse though. You made a movie nobody wanted, and put a spin on it that everyone rolled their eyes at. Ultimately, the "wokeness" didn't help but it didn't doom it. It was just a crappy movie, with no real starpower, and didn't look interesting. To blame it on men and saying they should support women is garbage. Olivia Wilde pulled the same crap a few months ago, when she made Supergirlbad.

If anything blame the marketing... if my movie-nerd-self doesn't know about a film, then you did something wrong.


"Supergirlbad" (love that, by the way) was actually a good movie though, IMO.
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In reply to TCTTS • 4:29p, 11/17/19
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I think she came out like three or four years ago.


I wasn't aware until she crapped on Trump for jailing all the gays in her SNL monologue a few years back. I thought she was being funny but found out she was gay afterwards and believed it. I looked it up and realized the cheated on Pattinson with the Snow White director. That was the first I knew they weren't together.

I really haven't thought much of her other than that since Snow White and the Huntsman And that scifi movie with Nicholas Hoult.


And I think she is a bit butch. I'm not saying she doesn't have femininity/isn't attractive or anything but she and that Ruby whatever chick both strongly come off as what I define as "flanneless butch."
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In reply to Counterpoint • 7:54p, 11/17/19
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Sex Panther said:
Pretty disappointing to hear that from Elizabeth Banks. I've always really liked her, she's always come off as super cool, talented and funny.

That's a complete bull**** excuse though. You made a movie nobody wanted, and put a spin on it that everyone rolled their eyes at. Ultimately, the "wokeness" didn't help but it didn't doom it. It was just a crappy movie, with no real starpower, and didn't look interesting. To blame it on men and saying they should support women is garbage. Olivia Wilde pulled the same crap a few months ago, when she made Supergirlbad.

If anything blame the marketing... if my movie-nerd-self doesn't know about a film, then you did something wrong.


"Supergirlbad" (love that, by the way) was actually a good movie though, IMO.

Yeah it was pretty good. I enjoyed it, but it was just Superbad with feminist girls (even had Jonah Hill's sister). And they weren't as funny as horny boys. I have no desire to ever watch it again, but Superbad is an all time classic... Both those girls are really talented though.

Olivia Wilde made the same claims, and its def harder for female driven movies, but they absolutely can and have succeeded plenty. And it definitely doesn't matter if something is directed by a woman. 90% of the public has no clue who directs movies and doesn't care.

Mean Girls
Bridesmaids
Ocean's 8
Girls Trip
Pitch Perfect
Bad Moms
The Help
Lucy
Half of Melissa McCarthy's movies (and half of them do terrible proving that it still has to be good)


If a movie is good, it will have a good shot to succeed. But stars and marketing matter. Not to mention movies are insanely expensive now and something like Booksmart probably just isn't going to appeal to the masses and entice them to spend 25-30 bucks and 2 hours of their time to see people they don't know, doing the same thing they've seen before, but this time with lesbians and strong, sassy girls.
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8:38p, 11/17/19
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A Sony animated Spider-Gwen movie would absolutely slay at the box offices, I'd bet.
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In reply to jeffk • 9:56p, 11/17/19
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jeffk said:
A Sony animated Spider-Gwen movie would absolutely slay at the box offices, I'd bet.
It's actually in the works (or at least some kind of Spider-girl/woman film set in the Spider-Verse is).

As for Charlie's Angels, I actually saw it over the weekend and it's surprisingly entertaining. And I'm not a Kristen Stewart but she was actually really good. And Ella Balinska would make a great Bond girl.
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