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Watched this last night. Thought it was good but not great. Visually stunning and I thought Brad Pitt did a great job. As I was watching this, it hit me that this was the first Brad Pitt movie I could recall seeing since WWZ. Is 2019 the first year he's made big movies since that one?

Someone early in the thread mentioned that they wanted/needed more world building here to explain what was happening around Pitt. Competition between countries for resources and glory doesn't end with our atmosphere. So, the reason for the "state of war" mentioned in this film is simply countries and humans extending their natural state of aggression towards one another into space. Thus, I didn't need any explanation as that made sense to me what was happening around Pitt.

However, something I must have missed while watching this (probably because I had been drinking wine most of the afternoon) is what exactly was The Surge and why was it dangerous to Earth? Was it basically an EMP from space that would hit the giant antenna on Earth and wipe out all modern electronics returning Earth to the Stone Age?

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And how was TLJ causing the surge?

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Rian Johnson f^cked that movie up so badly it has crossed into other film?

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The punishment for my laziness of not typing out Tommy Lee Jones' full name is that I'll never know the answer to my question, isn't it?

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Watched this last night. Thought it was good but not great. Visually stunning and I thought Brad Pitt did a great job. As I was watching this, it hit me that this was the first Brad Pitt movie I could recall seeing since WWZ. Is 2019 the first year he's made big movies since that one?

Someone early in the thread mentioned that they wanted/needed more world building here to explain what was happening around Pitt. Competition between countries for resources and glory doesn't end with our atmosphere. So, the reason for the "state of war" mentioned in this film is simply countries and humans extending their natural state of aggression towards one another into space. Thus, I didn't need any explanation as that made sense to me what was happening around Pitt.

However, something I must have missed while watching this (probably because I had been drinking wine most of the afternoon) is what exactly was The Surge and why was it dangerous to Earth? Was it basically an EMP from space that would hit the giant antenna on Earth and wipe out all modern electronics returning Earth to the Stone Age?

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And how was TLJ causing the surge?

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Rian Johnson f^cked that movie up so badly it has crossed into other film?

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The punishment for my laziness of not typing out Tommy Lee Jones' full name is that I'll never know the answer to my question, isn't it?

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Maybe. I want to know the answer as well!

Dark matter propulsion. Damage to his ship was causing the surge, which increased in strength with distance. Happened during the mutiny.

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They never revealed what Pitt's personal message to his Dad was met with

Really annoyed with how that scene ended with no reference anywhere

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This is where I lost interest in the story. It was the first moment - one hour into the film - that genuine tension was introduced into the plot. What did his Dad say? Why won't they tell him? Is he getting imprisoned on Mars? Why? All intriguing questions that get brushed aside within a minute.

The whole purpose of the journey was contrived. "Hey we can't securely record a message *anywhere on Earth not even this government facility where we're briefing you on a top secret mission* so do a mileage run to Mars." And why were the lunar base and Martian base 1g of gravity?

Saw this last night after the National Championship game. Nodded off a few times, but stayed awake during the important scenes.

Weird movie. I felt like Pitt's character from Meet Joe Black, Gravity, Interstellar, and every space sci-fi movie got blended up and this is what came out.

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I've never read Heart of Darkness, but I think I get the gist. Also, it's worth noting - something I just saw someone say on Twitter - that this trailer is definitely edited to be a trailer that plays before an X-Men movie. So I'm sure they're really highlighting all the action here, but you can definitely see something a little more profound/darker below the surface...

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well Apocalypse Now was loosely based on Heart of Darkness as well, so use that as a reference. Again, no idea how MUCH AA is based on it, but that was his analogy).

Brad would be Martin Sheen
TLJ - Marlon Brando

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I just watched this movie on the flight from Melbourne to LAX this morning.

I thought, wow, they made "Apocalypse Now" in space but took out all the cool parts.

Also, it's amazing how many Black females are going to be involved in space in the future. So the casting was super woke except for the protagonist who was - a straight white male.

Good way to kill 2 hours on a fifteen hour long flight but... I won't be in a hurry to watch this one again.

Tommy Lee Jones could have at least given a Marlon Brando quality soliloquy. The Horror.

On HBO right now, first time watching

Assume you fell asleep

Did not like this movie at all. Struggled to stick w it to the end.

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Assume you fell asleep

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Haha, no but didn't get real into the movie, spent most of the time just reading the politics board. The movie starts out with the most visually stunning scene, then you have the cool moon chase, and afterwards the scenes get less interesting until the end. It is almost like a porno starting out completely nude and then the people get slowly dressed as the movie progresses.

As mentioned earlier in this thread, the launch scene from Mars made me laugh because of the hatch at the bottom of the rocket. I need to go back and watch just before the launch because I missed a scene between when he gets the actual final message from his dad and when he is swimming in water. I looked up from reading and suddenly he is under water, on Mars.

Visually looked good but 2 hours of Brad Pitt on sedatives was not entertaining at all

Also, space movies typically all require some suspension of reality which I'm good with, but this one had several ridiculous components which you can't have when the goal by the filmmaker was to make it realistic with anticipated future tech. Sneaking onto the Mars launch and the manner in which he did it really took the cake, but there were many ridiculous moments. Navigating neptune's rings with a door was another

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Assume you fell asleep

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It is almost like a porno starting out completely nude and then the people get slowly dressed as the movie progresses.

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Loved this analogy...

I finally saw this about 2 weeks ago. It sounds like I'm in a minority of people that liked it. Not really enough to watch it again or anything, but to be fair that list of movies keeps getting smaller and smaller the older I get. I would watch it again if I was running through the channels and it was on.

After the first scene had a guy on a ladder however many miles above the surface with no safety equipment, just so that they could show us the parachute scene I knew I should have turned it off. But stuck through - can't even count how many plot holes and technical issues there were...don't think I have ever seen a movie try so hard and be so lazy at the same time. Kind of impressive in its own weird way.