I'm confused. You said it confirmed the KoR were the students, but you just said he slaughtered them.
Which is it?
Which is it?
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slaughtered the students who didn't follow him to the Dark Side.
Agreed. Luke did in ROTJ and wore black. Anakin did in ROTS and wore black. I would be very surprised if Rey doesn't flirt with it in TROS and wear black (at some point in the film).bobinator said:
Also I think the last movie made it pretty clear that Rey is going to flirt with using the "dark side" of the force, so I think we can definitely expect that in this movie. After all that's kind of a key part of the journey of every Jedi we've followed on screen is them being tempted by the dark side and either falling to it or not.
Put dark side in quotes because I think maybe there's a chance that Rey is going to bridge the gap of what has previously been thought of as light and dark with the force.
Rey is going to be tested the same way. That's another one of the few things about this movie I'm almost certain about.
Does JJ really do concrete answers?Brian Earl Spilner said:
I would really need a concrete explanation as to why none of them use lightsabers though. Especially if they're similar in age to Kylo, and we know he was at least proficient with a lightsaber by that time.
It would be interesting if he saw them as potential threats and forbade them to wield lightsabers.
I'll guess end of 1st actCJS4715 said:
The shot of Kylo & Rey fighting. If that really does occur (I'm not sure how much of this is a misdirect), do you think that is at the beginning of the film? I'm starting to think the movie will jump right to them at the Death Star remnants.
Yeah man, we're talking about the prequels here. I don't think anyone is defending those as bastions of genius.redline248 said:
It's a problem with the movie itself if multiple other forms of media have to fill in all the blanks
I would assume that if they are telling the KoR story in a comic book, than their actual identities aren't that important in the movie.redline248 said:
It's a problem with the movie itself if multiple other forms of media have to fill in all the blanks
The way things have gone with this trilogy, I think the bolded part is more likely than the comics indicating anything important. I always go back to "the overwhelming majority of viewers will have no idea about the comics" and likely have forgotten all about the Knights of Ren.MuckRaker96 said:I would assume that if they are telling the KoR story in a comic book, than their actual identities aren't that important in the movie.redline248 said:
It's a problem with the movie itself if multiple other forms of media have to fill in all the blanks
With so many things unanswered and so little information it feels like we're all falling into varying degrees of the "Everything Must Mean Something" trap.
I wonder why she's holding that stick like a spear while she throws the saber... training for having two sabers or training for a fight against the ewoks?MuckRaker96 said:
More screenshots from Monday.
Remember the scene in The Last Starfighter when all the enemy ships were lined up in a row and the last starfighter came in from above and just blasted them like shooting fish in a barrel?Quote:
Worst configuration for a game of Battleship ever.
She's holding it with both hands, like she would her staff, before catching the saberFlashdiaz said:I wonder why she's holding that stick like a spear while she throws the saber... training for having two sabers or training for a fight against the ewoks?MuckRaker96 said:
More screenshots from Monday.
Except it's ignited....BrownCoat said:
Looks like she was fighting with the stick because she dropped her saber and then is able to do the ole force pull trick to retrieve it.
She throws the saber at one point, and it slices a tree in half, then she pulls it back to herself, I think.agracer said:Except it's ignited....BrownCoat said:
Looks like she was fighting with the stick because she dropped her saber and then is able to do the ole force pull trick to retrieve it.
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I'll take that bet, but I think we need to define "clone" first.
My guess is that she was somehow "genetically created," with the Force at play, via Palpatine.
Now, whether or not Palpatine used some of Luke's or Anakin's DNA, I don't know, and am not prepared to say. I don't know if Rey is a clone of someone else before her. Is it even possible to "clone" a male into a female? I'm not even sure how all that works, so I'm simply going with "genetically created via the Force/Palpatine." And there may or may not be other "Reys" in this scenario.
Overall, not only has it been hinted that Palpatine had a hand in potentially creating Anakin, Palpatine's entire master plan involved clones. The war itself - the primary galactic struggle of the Skywalker Saga - is named after and fought by clones. In that sense, I feel like the clone thread has to come back around in some way, shape, or form. Clones (and potentially genetic manipulation via the Force) are Palpatine's thing.
Further, the whole clone thing could be the perfect (but admittedly somewhat heavy handed) metaphor thematically.
Rey's last great fight... is with herself.
Only when she literally and figuratively conquers herself can she truly become who she was meant to be.
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He did that for a reason.