*** BLACK PANTHER ***

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TexasAggie_02 said:

So since the final stone wasn't revealed in Black Panther, where do you think it is?

I still think Heimdal has it.

Thanos attacks the Asguardians to get the Tesseract and realizes the Heimdal has the soul gem (or maybe he already knows about it). With the soul gem, he can see all the souls in the galaxy, and therefore see who is in possession of the other stones. Then he can use the Tesseract to teleport to each location.
Either Heimdal or I think it could still be in Wakanda, buried underneath the ritual chamber where they grew the heart-shaped herbs that granted the powers of the BP. The soul stone is what gives the heart-shaped herbs their unique abilities. Just an assumption though
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Not a bad guess, really, as it connects the current panther with the past ones. Unless that's supposed to be hallucination.
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Cromagnum said:

As far as intro story movies go, my ranking on this.

1. Ironman
2. Dr Strange
3. Guardians of the Galaxy




4. Spiderman Homecoming
5. Black Panther
6. Antman
7. Captain America
8. Thor







9. Hulk
what's really cool about this list is that even though they're all "origin" stories, most of them have their own unique look/feel.

i think origin movies tend to be pretty formulaic, so i like that Marvel has really been able to give each character a fitting and appropriate introduction.
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I can't think of any other reason they are attacking wakanda other than the soul stone is there. And that absolutely explain the previous black panther soul connection and explain their power. However we know the powerstone is purple which could hurt that a little since the flower is not a different color. Also coogler said he didn't want wakanda to have two maguffins with vibranium and the soul stone. Doesn't mean it can't but who knows at this point.
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jackie childs said:

Cromagnum said:

As far as intro story movies go, my ranking on this.

1. Ironman
2. Dr Strange
3. Guardians of the Galaxy




4. Spiderman Homecoming
5. Black Panther
6. Antman
7. Captain America
8. Thor







9. Hulk
what's really cool about this list is that even though they're all "origin" stories, most of them have their own unique look/feel.

i think origin movies tend to be pretty formulaic, so i like that Marvel has really been able to give each character a fitting and appropriate introduction.
"Intro" is more appropriate than "origin" in several cases.

Thor (kinda), BP, and Homecoming aren't really origins.
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I like to pretend the Hulk movie doesn't exist. I'm going through the movies in order right now and skipped that one. Plus it's a totally different actor and the only crossover is Ross and Stark.
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Estimates upped....again. 235mm 4 day come, second highest s7 day ever, and already north of 400 million globally.

http://deadline.com/2018/02/black-panther-thursday-night-preview-box-office-1202291093/
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While it was still a Disney movie, have we ever seen an MCU movie where someone is freaking impaled the way we did in this film? I thought some of the stabbings were something we've only seen in the Netflix side of the MCU.
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Hela was doing all sorts of impaling in Ragnarok.

Agent Coulson gets impaled by Loki in Avengers
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wangus12 said:

Hela was doing all sorts of impaling in Ragnarok.

Agent Coulson gets impaled by Loki in Avengers
Yeah that's actually true. Still, neither of those situations ever looked as gruesome as it did in Black Panther but maybe I"m just remembering wrong.
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My question is VERY VERY spoilery, so hover at your own risk:

I find it interesting that Killmonger is dead at the end of the movie. While Killmonger's role (and death) was pretty damn meaningful, I was really kind of surprised that he presumably died the way he did. I really liked Michael B. Jordan's performance a lot, and I was kind of hoping he could become something like the Loki of the Black Panther universe. Does anyone think there's any chance of him coming back in future Black Panther movies? Jordan just has a lot of charisma and it's a shame to see him done after just one movie. There is a small amount of ambiguity of him being unredeemable in the sense of being fully dead.

Second question is probably spoilery in terms of the answer: I admittedly don't know enough about the Black Panther comics to speculate as to what the sequel would be, but does anyone have any theories?
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Michael B Jordan stole the show. Great performance. He was such a good character they need to find a way to bring him back.. Maybe the door's open - in the next one, flashback to Black Panther's sister coming in with Virbranium to save him shortly after he collapses.
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Quote:

Second question is probably spoilery in terms of the answer: I admittedly don't know enough about the Black Panther comics to speculate as to what the sequel would be, but does anyone have any theories?
it'll be interesting to see what happens to BP going forward. They kinda gave him the iron man 1 treatment and made his suit too powerful. There's pretty much no way to defeat him without A) taking away his powers or B) taking away his suit.

there will have to be some kind of macguffin that weakens his suit (like the stabilizers from the train).
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if he was brought back, i'm guessing it wouldn't be as a villain. t'challa already has enough allies and, honestly, what i loved about jordan's performance killmonger was that he was a really good villain. i also think it cheapens what was intended to be a meaningful death.
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MBAR said:

wangus12 said:

Hela was doing all sorts of impaling in Ragnarok.

Agent Coulson gets impaled by Loki in Avengers
Yeah that's actually true. Still, neither of those situations ever looked as gruesome as it did in Black Panther but maybe I"m just remembering wrong.

Well I think you never see Loki's thrust, just the staff coming out of him at a different angle.

Helas kills were relatively bloodless. Compare that to the scenes in Logan....
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Coppell97 said:

Michael B Jordan stole the show. Great performance. He was such a good character they need to find a way to bring him back.. Maybe the door's open - in the next one, flashback to Black Panther's sister coming in with Virbranium to save him shortly after he collapses.
I don't think this is a spoiler but as the movie went on, and this isn't to take anything away Boseman, as I think he played T'Challa with the correct amount of regality, I sort of found myself wishing that Jordan had just been cast as T'Challa. I don't even really know how to describe it, but I feel like he would have owned that role too had it happened. He's a rising star in hollywood for sure.

The thing that makes me think he's for sure gone is the final line in regards to slavery or whatever. It did feel very meaningful. Honestly I kind of wish the movie had ended without T'Challa taking back the kingdom. Maybe not so much that Killmonger ships the weapons to the Wakandan operatives across the world, but maybe a few parts of Wakanda fracture away from the kingdom and join Killmonger's cause. Could have set up an absolutely epic showdown for the second movie. But then again when I think about it, the kind of need Wakanda to be unified and peaceful for Infinity War, as per the trailers since it looks like there's at least one huge battle there. A warring Wakanda would be too messy on top of Thanos coming
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Cromagnum said:

Living Legend said:

After seeing it a second time this weekend. This was a top 5 MCU movie and Killmonger is the best Marvel villain ever.


Did you completely forget about this guy?




Nope Loki is a close 2nd. Killmonger had more of an impact in one movie than Loki did. Also the line about him wanting to be "buried in the ocean with his ancestors that jumped from the ships because they knew death would be better than bondage" is one of the most powerful quotes from a movie in recent memory IMO.
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jtstanley4621 said:

My question is VERY VERY spoilery, so hover at your own risk:

I find it interesting that Killmonger is dead at the end of the movie. While Killmonger's role (and death) was pretty damn meaningful, I was really kind of surprised that he presumably died the way he did. I really liked Michael B. Jordan's performance a lot, and I was kind of hoping he could become something like the Loki of the Black Panther universe. Does anyone think there's any chance of him coming back in future Black Panther movies? Jordan just has a lot of charisma and it's a shame to see him done after just one movie. There is a small amount of ambiguity of him being unredeemable in the sense of being fully dead.

Second question is probably spoilery in terms of the answer: I admittedly don't know enough about the Black Panther comics to speculate as to what the sequel would be, but does anyone have any theories?


I don't believe it would be possible for Killmonger to take on a Loki type role. His last line in the movie pretty much kills that possibility.
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Living Legend said:

After seeing it a second time this weekend. This was a top 5 MCU movie and Killmonger is the best Marvel villain ever.


For context here are my top 5 MCU movies in no particular order:

Black Panther
Iron Man
Ant Man
Winter Soldier
Dr Strange
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NM. I got too political Not my style.
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Wife and I thought it was overrated (in reference to RT 97%).

She thought 6.5/7 out of 10 and I was more 7/7.5 out of 10. Eitherway, I'm surprised that others didn't feel just a little let down.
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evan_aggie said:

Wife and I thought it was overrated (in reference to RT 97%).

She thought 6.5/7 out of 10 and I was more 7/7.5 out of 10. Eitherway, I'm surprised that others didn't feel just a little let down.

It is not a "great" movie.

it is a "good" movie.

Too many are being swept up by the historical aspect of it, and not actually considering it just as a film.

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evan_aggie said:

Wife and I thought it was overrated (in reference to RT 97%).

She thought 6.5/7 out of 10 and I was more 7/7.5 out of 10. Eitherway, I'm surprised that others didn't feel just a little let down.

You would both have been in the 97%.
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RT is binary. It's good or bad. Fresh or rotten.

Meta critic will be for scoring. Critics said 87. Fans says 67.
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fig96 said:

evan_aggie said:

Wife and I thought it was overrated (in reference to RT 97%).

She thought 6.5/7 out of 10 and I was more 7/7.5 out of 10. Eitherway, I'm surprised that others didn't feel just a little let down.

You would both have been in the 97%.
yeah it's not a 97/100 score.

It means 97% of critics rated it positively. On a 10 scale you could argue that would be anything basically above a 5.

So 97% thought it was at least above average ... possibly great. Somewhere in that range.


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BernArnold said:

fig96 said:

evan_aggie said:

Wife and I thought it was overrated (in reference to RT 97%).

She thought 6.5/7 out of 10 and I was more 7/7.5 out of 10. Eitherway, I'm surprised that others didn't feel just a little let down.

You would both have been in the 97%.
yeah it's not a 97/100 score.

It means 97% of critics rated it positively. On a 10 scale you could argue that would be anything basically above a 5.

So 97% thought it was at least above average ... possibly great. Somewhere in that range.


I thought we established that a 5 means it is a badly flawed movie.
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Ulrich said:

BernArnold said:

fig96 said:

evan_aggie said:

Wife and I thought it was overrated (in reference to RT 97%).

She thought 6.5/7 out of 10 and I was more 7/7.5 out of 10. Eitherway, I'm surprised that others didn't feel just a little let down.

You would both have been in the 97%.
yeah it's not a 97/100 score.

It means 97% of critics rated it positively. On a 10 scale you could argue that would be anything basically above a 5.

So 97% thought it was at least above average ... possibly great. Somewhere in that range.


I thought we established that a 5 means it is a badly flawed movie.


That's only if you didn't take Math 152 at A&M.
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evan_aggie said:

Wife and I thought it was overrated (in reference to RT 97%).

She thought 6.5/7 out of 10 and I was more 7/7.5 out of 10. Eitherway, I'm surprised that others didn't feel just a little let down.

Let down from what?
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Another solid MCU entry...but not top-tier.
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I guess just let down from such a well received 97% score...
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i think a killmonger prequel would be pretty sweet
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Ulrich said:

BernArnold said:

fig96 said:

evan_aggie said:

Wife and I thought it was overrated (in reference to RT 97%).

She thought 6.5/7 out of 10 and I was more 7/7.5 out of 10. Eitherway, I'm surprised that others didn't feel just a little let down.

You would both have been in the 97%.
yeah it's not a 97/100 score.

It means 97% of critics rated it positively. On a 10 scale you could argue that would be anything basically above a 5.

So 97% thought it was at least above average ... possibly great. Somewhere in that range.


I thought we established that a 5 means it is a badly flawed movie.
Well, if a critic gave a movie a 5/10, it would be noted as "rotten" under the RT scoring. Movies get a "fresh" rating if it gets a score of 60% or better.
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dcaggie04 said:

Ulrich said:

BernArnold said:

fig96 said:

evan_aggie said:

Wife and I thought it was overrated (in reference to RT 97%).

She thought 6.5/7 out of 10 and I was more 7/7.5 out of 10. Eitherway, I'm surprised that others didn't feel just a little let down.

You would both have been in the 97%.
yeah it's not a 97/100 score.

It means 97% of critics rated it positively. On a 10 scale you could argue that would be anything basically above a 5.

So 97% thought it was at least above average ... possibly great. Somewhere in that range.


I thought we established that a 5 means it is a badly flawed movie.
Well, if a critic gave a movie a 5/10, it would be noted as "rotten" under the RT scoring. Movies get a "fresh" rating if it gets a score of 60% or better.
That's not how it works. Rotten Tomatoes goes strictly off the "fresh" or "rotten" score. Did the critic like it or didn't like it. 60% of critics must like it to get a fresh rating.
 
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