The Dog Lord said:SoTXAg09 said:
They're obviously morons, but not surprising. Personal would've been destroying Cersei in the Red Keep (which is what I expected), not massacring hundreds of thousands of people.
Exactly. The civilian massacre is what I don't get. That is Mad Queen. Personal is killing civilians as collateral damage when destroying the Red Keep because your enemies are in there.
Good Aggie Hunting said:
I find it hard to believe that Bran will claim the Iron Throne and Jon returning to Castle Black after killing Dany in the end.
Varys was #1 scene IMOagsquirrel97 said:I'm sorry, last week was your week, we don't really care about your opinion of episode VEpisode IV said:
Favorite parts:
1. The Hound and Arya dialogue
2. The Tyrion & Jamie farewell
3. Jon finally having the shadow lifted on Dany; she's unworthy
4. Zombie Gregor smashing Qyburn... it was great, because it shows how fast and frail life can end
5. Arya perspective from the ground the last 10 minutes
6. Euron dying thinking he killed Jamie (he kinda did I guess, but really it was the imploding red keep)
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But seriously, Varys execution was top 2 at least
EXACTLY what I told my wife. This is probably what Hitler's bunker looked and sounded like in its last hours before he swallowed the pill and put a bullet in.investorAg83 said:
Anyone else picture the Hitler bunker speech when Qyburn is breaking all the bad news to Cersei?? Lol
more like exlodedac04 said:
bunch of grown men on here melting down harder than king's landing did. lmao
The execution of the Tarly's was far more deserved than Ned's execution of that dude in S1E1. This whole line is ridiculous. She was the beacon of mercy compared to her contemporaries in the show and those in real life during a similar time period.Zombie Jon Snow said:aTmAg said:No, we don't. NOTHING she did prior to hearing those bells was remotely crazy.WestAustinAg said:aTmAg said:Boo the F hoo. None of that comes close to explaining her sudden change. Might as well have her stub her step on a lego and then turn into Hitler. At least that makes a little more sense.G Martin 87 said:Until Cersei had Missandei beheaded, Jon and Varys and Tyrion all betrayed her, and she realized finally that she was utterly alone and unloved. Did not need 3 more episodes to establish that.The Dog Lord said:Old Tom Morris said:
Some of you thinking her split personality flipped in an instant need to step back and look at some of the themes that have happened with her from the beginning of the series. There is a clear path to the possibility of this happening. I just think the rushed ending of the past couple of seasons robbed us of seeing the transition done more smoothly.
A lot of the events that people try to use to point it out, like burning the Tarlys, aren't very convincing though. She gave them a chance to surrender.
She was crazy all along. You know this.
It would literally be like Indiana Jones deciding to use the Ark to take over the world at the end of Raiders. That level of stupidity.
Remind me when Indiana jones had previously burned people multiple times? Or when he had torched his enemies that wouldn't kneel? Or ordered any executions deserved or not?
PatAg said:
Also in the books and show, dont they mention/show Harrenhall having melted tops of battlements and blacked walls and whatnot. Why is it suddenly able to explode towers? I know the answer is "just accept it" but thats not a good enough reason for me.
I think having her take out the ships and scorpions on the wall was great. Of course she would be able to burn up the houses and whatnot
Those dragons were also bigger, I believe. Good point though.BigTimeAlum said:PatAg said:
Also in the books and show, dont they mention/show Harrenhall having melted tops of battlements and blacked walls and whatnot. Why is it suddenly able to explode towers? I know the answer is "just accept it" but thats not a good enough reason for me.
I think having her take out the ships and scorpions on the wall was great. Of course she would be able to burn up the houses and whatnot
Haarenhal was the greatest castle ever. A true impenetrable fortress. The walls were too thick to be destroyed. So they melted....
Weird how pointing out crappy writing is now going down as "melting down"?ac04 said:
bunch of grown men on here melting down harder than king's landing did. lmao
BigTimeAlum said:PatAg said:
Also in the books and show, dont they mention/show Harrenhall having melted tops of battlements and blacked walls and whatnot. Why is it suddenly able to explode towers? I know the answer is "just accept it" but thats not a good enough reason for me.
I think having her take out the ships and scorpions on the wall was great. Of course she would be able to burn up the houses and whatnot
Haarenhal was the greatest castle ever. A true impenetrable fortress. The walls were too thick to be destroyed. So they melted....
aTmAg said:Not crazy. She knew she could withstand it, and was trying to earn her position and respect back.Quote:
It was always there - she always resorted to ignoring advice and torching everyone. ALWAYS
1. walked into a burning fire pit and walked out with 3 dragonsSelf defense. Not crazy.Quote:
2. went into the house of the undying alone to rescue her dragons and burned the guy aliveSmart, not crazy.Quote:
3. Traded for the Unsullied and then Dracarys-ed the slave trader and then ordered the unsullied to kill the restAgain, not crazy.Quote:
4. Walked alone into the Khal temple and killed them all with fire and walked outAgain, self defense. Not crazy.Quote:
5. Under attack in an assassination attempt in the dragon pit she mounted the dragon, torched people and flew off.Not crazy.Quote:
6. Returned to Mereen amidst an assault and unleashed Drogon on the ships and slayed the masters and loosed the dothraki on the harpy's
Of course she is going to use fire. That is power that she has. Guess what? Bruce Lee used karate a lot. Nobody would bat an eye that he would use karate to solve all his problems. What people would ask, "WTF?" about is if 7/8ths through a Bruce Lee movie, if he decided to completely change character and use his karate skills to suddenly kick the crap out of children because he heard a bell ring.
TCTTS said:
Definitely in the camp of "This is where it was always heading, but they turned the corner too fast." You're crazy if you don't think this is what Dany's story was always leading to. But I've said it before and I'll say it again, there was absolutely no reason whatsoever to cut this season and last so short. Ten episodes each of these two seasons would have solved nearly every problem this show has had, including tonight's way-too-fast "turn." Benioff & Weiss will go down in history as the guys who had all the clout in the world, but got lazy and fumbled on the five yard line. It's just mind boggling.
