Vulgar? Man who let the Taliban into the movies?

My Spider Man rankings:

1. Spider-Man 2
2. Spider-Man: Homecoming
3. Spider-Man
4. The Amazing Spider-Man
5. Spider-Man 3
6. The Amazing Spider-Man 2

MCU Rankings:

1. GOTG 2
2. GOTG 1
3. Iron Man
4. Spider-Man: Homecoming
5. Avengers
6. Civil War
7. Winter Soldier
8. Iron Man 3
9. Thor
10. Thor 2
11. Dr. Strange
12. The First Avenger
13. Age of Ultron
14. Ant Man
15. Iron Man 2
16. Hulk

I think this is my order. I expect Thor 3 to be around 6-9 at worst. It looks fantastic.
1. Winter Soldier
2. GOTG 2
3. Avengers
4. GOTG 1
5. Iron Man
6. Spider-Man: Homecoming
7. Civil War
8. Dr. Strange
9. Age of Ultron
10. Ant Man
11. The First Avenger
12. Iron Man 2
13. Iron Man 3
14. Thor
15. Thor 2
16. Hulk

Bruce Almighty said:

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You have to love Debt. He calls a poster a pvssy because he got emotional in a movie with a character dying of cancer after they personally just lost somebody to cancer, but gets upset at a pseudo f-bomb in a pg-13 movie.

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1. Everyone deals with cancer. A poster saying they had to leave GOTG because of Starlord's mother in the prologue, cmon. It's fiction. If it hits close to home it's effective fiction, it's not something to get bent out of shape over.

2. The eff and the "what the *cut*" weren't my concerns as far as language. I'm referring to the shts and assoles. Although the touchy SJW flipping off the protagonist could be considered ASL.

I just think it's funny yall ignore my praise of the film, and invalidate my opinion on the content purely on the basis that you don't agree with it.

I wasn't comparing it to Clerks, but yall seem so hellbent on carrying this films water because you liked it.

GiveEmHellBill said:

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I guess the MCU has completely disregarded Spider-Man's spider sense.

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Looks like the MCU did not forget about the spider sense at all. It will be in the new Avengers movie.

Hell, there's a quote from the movie you should have used.


"My wife and kid are dead. Boo hoo hoo. Oh get over it. Everybody's got dead people."

you write this ?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/is-cursing-latest-spider-man-movie-1021093

During the mid-scene credits, Vulture says he doesn't know Spider-Man's identity. Thoughts on why he says that? I'm thinking one of three possibilities, leaning most toward #3 myself (maybe a combination with #2).

1. Wants the revenge for himself
2. Has respect for Peter after being saved
3. Is afraid that villains will use Liz to get to Peter, so he's protecting his family.

texasaggie04 said:

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During the mid-scene credits, Vulture says he doesn't know Spider-Man's identity. Thoughts on why he says that? I'm thinking one of three possibilities, leaning most toward #3 myself (maybe a combination with #2).

1. Wants the revenge for himself
2. Has respect for Peter after being saved
3. Is afraid that villains will use Liz to get to Peter, so he's protecting his family.

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Some combination of 2 and 3, probably. I doubt we will see this villain in another movie except maybe in a cameo.

Who was the guy wanting to get to spidey? I think I should've recognized him, but I didn't.

Bulldog73 said:

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Who was the guy wanting to get to spidey? I think I should've recognized him, but I didn't.

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The guy at the end talking to Vulture in prison?


That was the guy who was buying the guns on the ferry. He's alluded to being the villain, The Scorpion, who looks really silly in the comics if they actually use him... but then again so did The Vulture and they made him badass.

The actor is Nacho from Better Call Saul.

AliasMan02 said:

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texasaggie04 said:

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During the mid-scene credits, Vulture says he doesn't know Spider-Man's identity. Thoughts on why he says that? I'm thinking one of three possibilities, leaning most toward #3 myself (maybe a combination with #2).

1. Wants the revenge for himself
2. Has respect for Peter after being saved
3. Is afraid that villains will use Liz to get to Peter, so he's protecting his family.

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I took it as another "save your life" trade. Peter saved him from the explosion/fire so he saved Peter from the baddie, making them even again.

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I could take it a step further. How do villains always go after good guys (especially Spidey)? Their friends and loved ones. If Toomes says "Peter Parker," that puts a whole bunch of teenagers in the line of fire, including his own daughter.

PatAg said:

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you write this ?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/is-cursing-latest-spider-man-movie-1021093

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How exactly does one "adjust for inflation" with respect to number of cusswords?

Finally saw it.

Really liked it and Holland is by far and away the best Spidey! Looking forward to another installment

Cromagnum said:

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PatAg said:

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you write this ?

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/is-cursing-latest-spider-man-movie-1021093

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How exactly does one "adjust for inflation" with respect to number of cusswords?

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They are making the argument "more cussing = less grossing" thus they are adjusting the gross revenue to have an apples to apples comparison.

texasaggie04 said:

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During the mid-scene credits, Vulture says he doesn't know Spider-Man's identity. Thoughts on why he says that? I'm thinking one of three possibilities, leaning most toward #3 myself (maybe a combination with #2).

1. Wants the revenge for himself
2. Has respect for Peter after being saved
3. Is afraid that villains will use Liz to get to Peter, so he's protecting his family.

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I think the exact quote was along the lines of:

"If I knew who SpiderMan was, I would kill him myself."

I thought it was pretty clear that meant he wanted the revenge for himself.

"If I knew who he was, he'd be dead." I think it is option two.

rhutton125 said:

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I took it to mean he was covering for Peter. Respeck.

Spider-Man's numbers will take a hit as it's one of the very few superhero films to have immediate competition. I think both Homecoming and Apes cannibalized each other a bit, but we'll see if either are considered disappointments by the end of their runs.

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Agreed, I think Apes is probably a bigger reason than any for Homecoming's drop off.

GiveEmHellBill said:

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Let me boil down the Flash debate (and I happen to agree with the critics here):

Flash Thompson was supposed to be the jock who was bigger, richer, more handsome and more athletic than Peter. He was everything Peter wasn't and he reminded him of it constantly through physical and verbal intimidation all through high school.

This version of Flash is smaller, less attractive, not athletic and is noticeably dumber (in a school of smart kids) than Peter. There is nothing that this kid has on Peter except almost certainly money. There is zero physical intimidation and, in a school of smart kids where the Academic Decathalon is their biggest "sports" team, he is well below Parker on that squad. In fact, he's well below ever other person on the squad: he's the alternate. If he had been captain, then this whole situation wouldn't exist.

His race has zero to do with it, so shove that "texags is just racist" bullsh*t up your ass. His casting and characterization was a mistake, pure and simple. I have no issues with ANY of the casting or racial identities of any of the other characters, as they didn't make any difference to the story. However, Flash Thompson was wrong for this movie.

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That must mean you aren't ok with Aunt May being an AILF...

PooDoo said:

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GiveEmHellBill said:

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Let me boil down the Flash debate (and I happen to agree with the critics here):

Flash Thompson was supposed to be the jock who was bigger, richer, more handsome and more athletic than Peter. He was everything Peter wasn't and he reminded him of it constantly through physical and verbal intimidation all through high school.

This version of Flash is smaller, less attractive, not athletic and is noticeably dumber (in a school of smart kids) than Peter. There is nothing that this kid has on Peter except almost certainly money. There is zero physical intimidation and, in a school of smart kids where the Academic Decathalon is their biggest "sports" team, he is well below Parker on that squad. In fact, he's well below ever other person on the squad: he's the alternate. If he had been captain, then this whole situation wouldn't exist.

His race has zero to do with it, so shove that "texags is just racist" bullsh*t up your ass. His casting and characterization was a mistake, pure and simple. I have no issues with ANY of the casting or racial identities of any of the other characters, as they didn't make any difference to the story. However, Flash Thompson was wrong for this movie.

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That must mean you aren't ok with Aunt May being an AILF...

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Makes more sense than a high school kid with a 80 year old aunt.

I'm thinking we'll see some version of "The Sinister Six" in the next movie or at least the beginnings of it.

Fantastic movie. Right out of the gate with the theme music from the '70s cartoon that I grew up with. Made me so giddy. All previous Spiderman movies don't even exist anymore to me this one was so superior. A few thoughts and questions:

1. The casting of Flash was a little odd but don't really care upon further reflection.

2. I was really surprised by the FMK scene I think primarily because all of these kids were portrayed as really good kids. None of them are degenerates. I was in high school too so obviously this happens, but I was still surprised by it because it seemed out of character for the environment they set up. Not a big deal though.

3. I was annoyed by the Washington monument scene like one other. Sorry, but it's a completely unnecessary dig that subtly perpetuates our current cultural crisis.

4. What was the Star Wars Easter egg someone mentioned other than the obvious scenes with Legos?

5. Where was the Miles Morales nod?

Here is my main issue with the movie....Michael Keaton is a f'ing badass. One of the best bad guys there has been with the most realistic motivation we've seen that especially parallels our current environment (government crushing the little guy).

I want more of him and I'm concerned Marvel blew their wad using a superior actor on a minor bad guy. I really hope they can bring him back. The vulture suit was kick ass and the one scene with him camped out on the building like Batman was so cool looking. More Keaton please.

YouBet said:

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4. What was the Star Wars Easter egg someone mentioned other than the obvious scenes with Legos?

5. Where was the Miles Morales nod?

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Peter had a bunch of Star Wars action figures in his room.

The nephew that Donald Glover mentions is Miles Morales.

Farmer1906 said:

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I think this is my order. I expect Thor 3 to be around 6-9 at worst. It looks fantastic.
1. Winter Soldier
2. GOTG 2

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I do not understand how anyone can put GOTG2 over 1.

The payoff with Yondu was fantastic, but everything else was definitely below the first movie.

The Bad
All the Ego stuff was stupid.
Baby Groot wore out his welcome way too early
The 700 jump thingie was just stupid.
Drax humor was too forced
Mantis was used stupidly
The Sovereign were pointless
The PacMan scene basically puts it to the bottom of the list by itself

Good:
Nebula storyline
Rocket/Yondu
Yondu for the last third of the movie