mallen said:
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veryfuller said:
You can pick apart any movie, and especially biopics, if you don't like them.
In my view, he was not presented as an emotional robot. He was just dealing with grief and didn't know how to share that with anyone. Gosling's performance was amazing at showing how he was on the verge of emotion all the time, IMO.
I get that this movie isn't everyone's cup of tea, however. I just don't think the filmmakers were as careless with Armstrong's story as they are being accused of on this thread.
I agree that is what the movie was trying to portray (for dramatic purposes), but disagree on it being reality. He was presented as aloof in the movie, but was from what I have read, was nothing like that in real life.
Hmm...Neil's family and biographer were consulted heavily during the making of the movie. Particularly, his two sons were heavily involved. They all signed off on the overall portrayal of Armstrong. I think am going with the family's view over an anonymous TexAgs poster.
The biography and family said nothing about Armstrong tossing his daughter's bracelet into a crater. So clearly the film took liberties beyond their input.
In one of your previous posts you state that Armstrong's personality isn't very accurate in the movie. Armstrong's sons, Rick and Mark, disagree:
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Like millions of other people around the world, on July 20, 1969, Rick and Mark Armstrong watched Apollo 11's moon landing on the television set in their living room. But for those two boys aged 12 and 6 at the time it was their Dad who was taking humanity's first steps on another world 49 years ago.
And now that new generations will be able to experience Neil Armstrong's historic steps through the new movie First Man, the Armstrong boys are extremely happy and pleased that people will get to know their father as they know and remember him, instead of the way he has been characterized over the years.
"First Man really captures Dad's personality," said Mark in an interview with Universe Today, "but more than that, it captures the personality of both our parents. It was really important for us from the beginning that the filmmakers tell the story the way we remembered it and the way it really happened."
https://www.universetoday.com/140197/what-neil-armstrongs-sons-really-think-about-the-movie-first-man/
A) Mark was 6 during the moon landing. He has no way of remembering a damn thing about his father's personality back then. Rick was 12 but he said that didn't remember details, such as whether he really did shake his father's hand like that after their talk. The movie pulled that out of their ass just like the bracelet thing. (which further promotes the robot thing).
B) The movie portrayed Armstrong as a aloof even to his co-workers. Rick and Mark have no valid input on that. And several of Armstrong's peers are already on the record stating that the movie deviates from the man they knew.
Are you suggesting that Armstrong died during that mission or that his personality changed dramatically thereafter because I'm pretty sure his two boys spent decades with their dad after the mission was over. It would be far fetched to say his core personality changed dramatically over his lifetime.
No, I'm suggesting that it's very difficult for Rick and Mark to remember what happened 50 years ago from the context of 50 years ago. People tend to remember the past through the lense of today. I remember my grandmother, not as she was when I was 6-12, but what she looked like before she died. Likewise, it makes sense that Rick and Mark's memory of 50 years ago, are somewhat tainted by the subsequent failed marriage. Especially when the father is a workaholic and admittedly did not spend enough time at home with their kids. Kids in such situations typically gain the point of view of their mother. But not being there is different than being a robot like the movie portrayed.
Also, people interact with their co-workers differently than they interact with their family. The movie portrayed him as robotic to everybody he interacted with.
Compare the press conference in the movie with the real one. Gosling came off like robotic jerk. The real Neil Armstrong, though technical in his answers, was actually cordial and made the room laugh on occasion. Go look at Armstrong's subsequent interviews. He came off like a guy that any of us would want to have a beer with. Gosling's character came off as a tightass that nobody could be friends with.