Trident 88 said:

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People in the thread seem to be confusing the ability to be able to see the past and present with omniscience. He's still a teenager; he's still spending half the time using his powers to peek into brothels in the realm.

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Exactly! It also explains why he sounds creepy and worn out all the time. I'm sure the young master has exhausted himself.

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Also, he has so much information that he misses things and also doesn't necessarily know the motivation behind why people are doing what they're doing.

He does this through trees, he's not going to look through every tree in the world to see what's happening in every event.

I also really liked the scene with Jon and Theon in the throne room. Pretty crazy to see the different positions they are both in considering where they both started. I thought it was pretty powerful, they both made decisions based on what they thought their families wanted, ended up going in such different directions.

Theon is a really tragic figure, but no one made his decisions for him. Forgiveness isn't a concept we've seen much of in this show. Perhaps after all he's gone through Theon can finally redeem himself to his own family, even if that means his own death.

A casual observation: During the tense scene with Jaime and Cerisei , when Jamie asked if she was going to kill him and The Mountain was standing behind Jamie, did the scene angle remind you of when the executioner was standing behind Ned before Ned got beheaded?



Also, I was a bit confused when Jamie asked if Cercei was going to kill him, Cercei paused and then gave a small nod of her head, but The Mountain, who had started to draw his sword did nothing as Jaime walked away and said, "I didn't think so". Was that just a prep nod?

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Theon is a really tragic figure, but no one made his decisions for him. Forgiveness isn't a concept we've seen much of in this show. Perhaps after all he's gone through Theon can finally redeem himself to his own family, even if that means his own death.

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I agree not way he survives this but I figure he saves his sister dying in the process and not being a coward.

Haha this is the first time I realized that Leanna named him Aegon; I thought she said Eddard Targaryen.

Max Power said:

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I also really liked the scene with Jon and Theon in the throne room. Pretty crazy to see the different positions they are both in considering where they both started. I thought it was pretty powerful, they both made decisions based on what they thought their families wanted, ended up going in such different directions.

Theon is a really tragic figure, but no one made his decisions for him. Forgiveness isn't a concept we've seen much of in this show. Perhaps after all he's gone through Theon can finally redeem himself to his own family, even if that means his own death.

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the only thing is I would have thought Theon would have had a bigger end game than just saving Yara. He's been such a focus for so long, is he not going to have a big role in the Great War? I'm still hoping so.

Also, does he think that Euron is going to the Iron Islands? He will be wrong if so since Euron is going to Essos.

My thought in regards to Jon's real name being Aegon: I think it has to do with Rheagar being involved heavily in prophesy. Apparently at some point, he came across a scroll or book (song of ice and fire?) that spoke of the prince that was promised and the long night. If I recall correctly, after the tourney at Harrenhall and the discovery of the Laughing Tree knights identity, he became obsessed with Lyanna Stark as he realized a son from that relationship would be of ice and fire. Perhaps that is when he realized his first son was not that "promised prince" and should not have been given the name of Aegon. The name was therefore given again to "Jon".

FIDO95 said:

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My thought in regards to Jon's real name being Aegon: I think it has to do with Rheagar being involved heavily in prophesy. Apparently at some point, he came across a scroll or book (song of ice and fire?) that spoke of the prince that was promised and the long night. If I recall correctly, after the tourney at Harrenhall and the discovery of the Laughing Tree knights identity, he became obsessed with Lyanna Stark as he realized a son from that relationship would be of ice and fire. Perhaps that is when he realized his first son was not that "promised prince" and should not have been given the name of Aegon. The name was therefore given again to "Jon".

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The identity of the Knight of the Laughing Tree has never been confirmed to my knowledge, although Lyanna is the most likely suspect

Wow, that's really good analysis. Thank you!

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Max Power said:

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I also really liked the scene with Jon and Theon in the throne room. Pretty crazy to see the different positions they are both in considering where they both started. I thought it was pretty powerful, they both made decisions based on what they thought their families wanted, ended up going in such different directions.

Theon is a really tragic figure, but no one made his decisions for him. Forgiveness isn't a concept we've seen much of in this show. Perhaps after all he's gone through Theon can finally redeem himself to his own family, even if that means his own death.

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the only thing is I would have thought Theon would have had a bigger end game than just saving Yara. He's been such a focus for so long, is he not going to have a big role in the Great War? I'm still hoping so.

Also, does he think that Euron is going to the Iron Islands? He will be wrong if so since Euron is going to Essos.

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Theon's story of it were tied up with a pretty bow would be saving Yara, killing Euron, becoming King of the Iron Islands and bending the knee to Jon/Aegon.

But I don't see too many happy endings for these characters.

I think that with Jamie riding north, he will join Dany / Jon and bring atleast a good amount of the lannister army with him.

He's the commander of the lannister army, and I think his soldiers will follow him.

That leaves Cersei with 20,000 golden swords...soo

Dany = 8,000 Unsullied, 2,000 of the second sons?, How many dothraki 5,000? 20,000 northerners? Lannister's with Jamie 10,000?

Dany = ~45,000 soldiers & 2 dragons vs 100,000 army of the dead & 1 dragon

Cersei = 20,000 mercenaries

Big Task for Dany / Jon

I thought this was an interesting read about Bran possibly being responsible for Aerys' descent into madness, the Night King's powers, and ultimately the entire long night.

Never put much weight into this theory, but reading this is compellling.

http://nerdist.com/bran-night-king-game-of-thrones-theory/

mavsfan4ever said:

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A casual observation: During the tense scene with Jaime and Cerisei , when Jamie asked if she was going to kill him and The Mountain was standing behind Jamie, did the scene angle remind you of when the executioner was standing behind Ned before Ned got beheaded?



Also, I was a bit confused when Jamie asked if Cercei was going to kill him, Cercei paused and then gave a small nod of her head, but The Mountain, who had started to draw his sword did nothing as Jaime walked away and said, "I didn't think so". Was that just a prep nod?

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I had this same question. I thought Cersei nodded to the Mountain to kill Jamie, but then nothing happened. I thought the nod was the order to kill him. What was the nod for?

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She probably told him (Zombie Mountain) that she would nod and that he was to draw his sword but not strike Jamie down. She was bluffing and Jamie called her bluff.

Cersei couldn't bring herself to kill Tyrion when she had the chance and she couldn't kill Jamie. It might end up being her undoing.

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The whole Sansa artya thing is bs. Bran knows the truth and while he went all dr. Manhattan and claims not to be bran, it's in the north's best interests to have stable leadership for the upcoming war for the dawn. So it would make sense that he would intervene if he saw Sansa and Arya in direct conflict that would endanger the north before the war.

Also, arts is not an idiot. Neither is Sansa. If they fall for little finger's trick then they will be taking a major step back from a character development angle. And the writing has just been plain too good for that. I think her giving the catspaw to Sansa was a signal. They both know little finger can't be trusted and in the trailer for the first episode of the season one of them (I forget but it was either Sansa or Arya) says "the lone wolf dies but the pack survives".

A quote we have yet to hear this season so far. It would be the perfect come uppance line to deliver to little finger as they expose and kill him for all he has done. More than that there is the sumbolism in the quote. The symbol of house stark is the Direwolf. The starks are literally and symbolically as seen by The direwolves they each raised as children, wolves. The quote means that they realize that they must stay together m, united as a pack, or die. While, this wouldn't be the first time a trailer misled us regarding the direction a show would go, GoT tends to do a good job of dropping Easter eggs and it wouldn't make sense forSansa and Arya to do such an about face after coming so far.

My money is they are letting out some rope so little finger can hang himself.

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In reply to PatAg
My prediction is LF dies in the finale. Cersei holds on til halfway through the last season and the NK dies by the second to last episode with the last episode wrapping everything up.

Also I predict a miniseries based on robert's rebellion. Within 2 years.


Just gonna leave this here for everyone that was questioning Arya and Sansa's ability to deal with LF.

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Also I predict a miniseries based on robert's rebellion. Within 2 years.

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Word on the street is casting decision for major Targ character has been made.

'Word on the street' being my manager at work read this on the line.

They started plotting against little finger the moment they all reunited. Remember the scene after Sansa takes Arya to the tree to see Bran? They all walk back to Winterfell together and Little Finger watches them go into the castle from a balcony. Sansa had never forgiven LF for giving her to the boltons. She said as much this episode. I also firmly believe that was why she didn't go to the Vale before it had become clear that John was going to lose the Battle of the *******s without them. She hadn't forgiven LF and didn't trust him and didn't know what she was going to do about him if they lost te battle because she knew that he would sell her off again.

Once the Battle was won and she finally had allies around her she could trust (the other stark children) she could begin plotting his downfall.

Immediately after Arya reunited with Sansa and Bran at the tree is when Sansa and Arya started to appear to have beef with each other, all part of the plan to expose him.

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Also I predict a miniseries based on robert's rebellion. Within 2 years.

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Word on the street is casting decision for major Targ character has been made.

'Word on the street' being my manager at work read this on the line.

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Nevermind....she meant for last night's episode.

The NK doesn't need to die just his #2 that raised the dragon and most of the army.

The NK is the short haired WW or long haired WW?

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The NK is the short haired WW or long haired WW?

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Short hair

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Haha this is the first time I realized that Leanna named him Aegon; I thought she said Eddard Targaryen.

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You're not the only one

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Great, now many Left Tackles will be calling him "nerd".