If Thrawn has a leg up on anyone, it's Sabine because he's been studying her art. I'd say she is the most likely candidate to go down.

We know it's not Rex, Hera, or Chopper. And we know the Ghost survives.

I think Rex's number could be up, he's one of the last holdover characters from TCW and has had more screen time than Hondo.

I could see it being Rex, Sato, Zeb, or Kanan. Sabine is pretty much the only link to Mandalore, so until Bo Karan turns up next season I can't really see them getting rid of her this soon.

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I think Rex's number could be up, he's one of the last holdover characters from TCW and has had more screen time than Hondo.

I could see it being Rex, Sato, Zeb, or Kanan. Sabine is pretty much the only link to Mandalore, so until Bo Karan turns up next season I can't really see them getting rid of her this soon.

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I'm all in on Rex being "Gramps" in Jedi, so I'm sure he lives.

Don't forget there's still a couple of other clones out there.

I'm betting everyone lives, but maybe someone gets captured.

I'm still holding out hope that one of these seasons ends with Kanan frozen in carbonite and the ghost crew scattered, so the story can then jump forward to after Endor when Ezra frees Kanan and reassembles the ghost crew so we can start filling in what happens between episode 6 and 7.

Thrawn might be the perfect adversary to do that... and he'd make a compelling foe for the rebellion to face after Endor (as he was in the book trilogy that introduced him). The emperor and Vader thought they would win Endor easily, so it's no stretch to say Thrawn would have been dealing with something elsewhere during that battle and a foe of the rebellion we simply didn't see during the OT (it's a big galaxy, after all, and Rebels is already showing that, for whatever reason, Thrawn and Vader don't work the same sectors at the same time).

Best guess as to who dies is Agent Kallus. Thrawn already knows he's the traitor

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If Thrawn has a leg up on anyone, it's Sabine because he's been studying her art. I'd say she is the most likely candidate to go down.

We know it's not Rex, Hera, or Chopper. And we know the Ghost survives.

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They won't kill Sabine. They spent quite some time this season building her up and making her a strong female character, they won't kill her.
Kellus and Bendu

Thrawn gets a mention in Aftermath: Empire's End and his book come out shortly after the season finale. I wonder if we'll get some sort of story arc about Unknown Space (where Thrawn is from) headed into next season.

Kallus is a good guess. I think Mandalore's role in the Rebellion is going to stretch into season 4, so I doubt Sabine is getting aced.

I will say, there is a downer episode here and there, but for the most part this thing has been pretty solid the last 2 seasons. I don't understand how big SW fans are skipping out on this one.

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Don't we see her ship on Yavin before the battle of Scarif? I see it ending with them going to Yavin.

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The Ghost was on Yavin and in the battle over Scarif.

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And Chopper was in the background on Yavin IV, so they were already there when the Rogue One crew steals the U-Wing to fly to Scarif.

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I will say, there is a downer episode here and there, but for the most part this thing has been pretty solid the last 2 seasons. I don't understand how big SW fans are skipping out on this one.

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They're just pouting that Disney bought the franchise...

After telling myself "never again", I visited theforce.net to read some thoughts on the latest episode of Rebels. These folks are insufferable.

Given that, I did read one thing that made me chuckle, and that's the point they reinforced the idea that Kenobi is a big liar.

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After telling myself "never again", I visited theforce.net to read some thoughts on the latest episode of Rebels. These folks are insufferable.

Given that, I did read one thing that made me chuckle, and that's the point they reinforced the idea that Kenobi is a big liar.

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from a certain point of view.

Kenobi and Yoda truly believed that Luke was the chosen one. They aren't all knowing. They first believed Anakin was the one (first reaction is usually right), then backed off that when he killed jedi children. So now they believe Luke is the chosen one.... and maybe Leia. See, they're all over the place.

I think that there is little doubt that Kenobi probably changed his mind, so he is not lying in that instance. He says to Anakin at the end of ROTS, "You were the chosen one". He then later states in (ROTJ?) that Vader is "more machine now than man". Clearly, he believes Luke is the remaining hope to right the galaxy.

Now, as far as being a liar, Kenobi lies or perhaps is willing to omit the truth to accomplish his mission. He recognizes that Ezra probably can't handle the truth (much like Luke in ANH), so he chooses to act like he does not know the secret to destroying the sith or the Empire something Ezra has been searching for since Season 2 of the show. Speaking of season 2, what was Yoda's purpose in sending Ezra to Malachor last season? Just a plot device to eventually connect Ezra, Maul, & Kenobi or was there an actual purpose for that?

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I think that there is little doubt that Kenobi probably changed his mind, so he is not lying in that instance. He says to Anakin at the end of ROTS, "You were the chosen one". He then later states in (ROTJ?) that Vader is "more machine now than man". Clearly, he believes Luke is the remaining hope to right the galaxy.

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The Chosen One wasn't supposed to save the galaxy. He was supposed to bring balance to the force.

Anakin killed all the Jedi so there were basically 2 sith and 2 jedi. He did it

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The Chosen One wasn't supposed to save the galaxy. He was supposed to bring balance to the force.

Anakin killed all the Jedi so there were basically 2 sith and 2 jedi. He did it

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I always thought it was ridiculous the Jedi wanted to "bring balance to the force" at a time when they numbered in the hundreds (if not thousands?) and the Sith were underground. Such a dumb prophesy and interpretation.

Well, good point. I'll just accept my shame on that point. My only defense is confusion... because Lucas.

Should have been a major flag when, at a time they thought the Sith extinct, they were worried about the Force being out of balance. And then when they realized there were Sith, they didn't seem too concerned that the sheer number of Jedi wasn't enough to keep the dark side from over powering their ability to use the Force.

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I think that there is little doubt that Kenobi probably changed his mind, so he is not lying in that instance. He says to Anakin at the end of ROTS, "You were the chosen one". He then later states in (ROTJ?) that Vader is "more machine now than man". Clearly, he believes Luke is the remaining hope to right the galaxy.

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The Chosen One wasn't supposed to save the galaxy. He was supposed to bring balance to the force.

Anakin killed all the Jedi so there were basically 2 sith and 2 jedi. He did it

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it's not balance as having equal numbers of Jedi and Sith.

The force is something natural that binds everything. The Sith use and abuse the force for their own personal gain. Their greedy use of the force unbalances it. Since the Jedi are supposed to let the force do it's thing (ex. let people die) and bring down those that manipulate it, they 'balance' it.
Hence when something unnatural happens, there is said to be a disturbance in the force.

The was good overall, but the whole plot points with Deus Ex Bendu really dragged it down.

I wish they had left him out of these two episodes. It takes away so much from the outcome because of convenience, and not the actions of our heroes.

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The was good overall, but the whole plot points with Deus Ex Bendu really dragged it down.

I wish they had left him out of these two episodes. It takes away so much from the outcome because of convenience, and not the actions of our heroes.

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I get where you're coming from, I thought it was kind of cheap to a certain extent as well but without him they were pretty much all going to die. And regarding his message to Thrawn at the end there was interesting, and I know we probably won't see it happen in Rebels, but I really want to see this defeat he spoke of.

I felt there was some decent pacing, but I felt that this might have needed another 15 minutes or so. Specifically, when Ezra was petitioning Sabine and her group, and the hasty ambush defense that Rex and Zeb setup. I'm also kind of confused on why Ezra was a lieutenant in the last episode and was apparently a commander in this episode? Especially after stealing and losing an A-Wing in the last episode.

Also, they telegraphed Sato's death rather early in the episode, but he was given probably one of the better deaths in the series IMO.

SW Rebels youtube put a spoiler in a video title. It was the first vid when I pulled up the app this morning... boo.

At any point, Kanan could have force choked Thrawn and ended it.

I think the stupid idea that "force choke" is a dark side power is hypocritical and stupid.

It is not like he does not use the force to guide his sabre the other times he has killed stormtroopers and whatnot since he is blind.

Even Luke used the force to Destroy the first Death Star. Not every single person on the Death Star was evil, many were conscripted.

So, why did Ezra not communicate with Sabine in advance of his arrival? Would that potential transmission be compromised?

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So, why did Ezra not communicate with Sabine in advance of his arrival? Would that potential transmission be compromised?

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It's possible that since Mandalore is in the process of having its own civil war that long range communications were being jammed by the Empire, but that's just my guess. You could tweet the show's twitter or Pablo and ask that though.

I'm kind of surprised that not much more discussion has happened since the finale aired.

Looking at the trivia gallery for this episode, it's said that with the loss of Sato that Phoenix squadron is now gone as well. "The finale brings an end to Phoenix Squadron, with the destruction of the Phoenix Nest carrier, the death of Commander Sato, and the loss of Atollon." (from the trivia gallery)

So, even though Thrawn didn't capture Hera, Dodonna, or either Jedi he still dealt the rebellion a pretty big blow but it does look like we're going to the base on Yavin IV next season. The show doesn't always convey emotion well, but the final sequence on the Ghost did convey a bit of dejection/dissolution and despair among the regular rebel soldiers that we saw.

I just hope Kallus is around for a while. He is a good addition to the crew.

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I just hope Kallus is around for a while. He is a good addition to the crew.

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Yeah, I'm hoping they use his knowledge of how the Empire works to their advantage. Unless he's running around in a disguise, I don't see how he can really operate out in the open anymore.

Though, I think they've laid some ground work for characters to meet their end next season. The sequence with Ezra and Kanan at the beginning of the episode made me wonder if I was right throwing him in there with guys that could bite it in the finally.

With them heading to the base at Yavin IV, it's giving the impression that we're heading towards a definitive end for the series next season. With Sato gone now, it's opened the door for Hera to move forward to become a general like we know she is by R1. Plus there was also the promo image for season 4 in the recon video of the Mandalorian helmets laying on the ground (apparently that include Sabine, Fen Rau, and some other's helmets) so we're likely going to Mandalore as well.

I really like how Thrawn wasn't defeated. The Rebels didn't strike a big victory, they barely escaped to survive. Against Thrawn, only something unprecedented would have caught him off guard. This was the finale I was hoping for.

didn't care for Bendu becoming a massive force of nature with glowy eyes in the sky. Makes him more powerful than any Jedi or Sith we've seen.

Was definitely reminiscent of Avatar, but he's probably restricted to that one planet that we will never see again.

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I really like how Thrawn wasn't defeated. The Rebels didn't strike a big victory, they barely escaped to survive. Against Thrawn, only something unprecedented would have caught him off guard. This was the finale I was hoping for.

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I thought they handled it well. I wonder if there will be any repercussions for Thrawn or Price given the Rebels' escape.

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AgMarauder04 said:

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I really like how Thrawn wasn't defeated. The Rebels didn't strike a big victory, they barely escaped to survive. Against Thrawn, only something unprecedented would have caught him off guard. This was the finale I was hoping for.

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I thought they handled it well. I wonder if there will be any repercussions for Thrawn or Price given the Rebels' escape.

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Not sure. Price did everything she could have to repel them, they were just bested,

Thrawn still decimated the fleet. All their capital ships got taken down and only a few escaped.