In cap 1, serum was blue.

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So many people that worked on BvS just got fired. WB has to be rethinking zach Snyder's level of involvement right now if they weren't already.

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Where are you getting this?

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More importantly, what does any of that have to do with Civil War?

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Because it is just easy to compare to very similar comic book movies.

I'd understand if the post was in any way comparing the two, but I guess I'm not seeing what you're seeing.

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and what was in Starks trunk? 5 bags of blood?

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My assumption is that it was the super soldier serum or something similar. Especially when you see the flashback scene where the one guy beats WS and then you see all 5 easily beating down the guards.

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You also see blue stuff in IV bags for the super soldiers in one of the flash backs.

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So many people that worked on BvS just got fired. WB has to be rethinking zach Snyder's level of involvement right now if they weren't already.

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Where are you getting this?

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More importantly, what does any of that have to do with Civil War?

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Because it is just easy to compare to very similar comic book movies.

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WB has to be rethinking zach Snyder's level of involvement right now if they weren't already because Civil War kicked some major ass making a similar movie.

That is how I took it.

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Did everyone's movie also just start.....like outta the blue, a movie preview ended then BOOM, it just started and it never said the title of the movie until the end of the movie in the credits also no standard marvel comic reel at the start, which I thought was off.... Like watching iron man 3 now....starts off with some stuff then does the comic reel and title, then movie starts

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I think your's was broken. Mine started with the Marvel Reel. I do think several of the Marvel movies haven't shown the title till the end, which is something I never understood

There's plenty of those already. Uhhh... At least that's what I've heard.

Honestly, I don't even know what a "porn parody" is.

I just got home from seeing this and thought it was very good, though it didn't quite blow me away.

Cons:
-Beyond the opening action sequence, the first third of the movie or so was both slow and rushed at the same time. It was slow in that it felt like not a lot happened that had consequence to it (the action sequence capturing Bucky felt like moving chess pieces around a board). It was rushed because some the scenes didn't have much depth. Like when we meet Black Panther and his father and then instantly kill the father. I think spending even five more minutes on that relationship could have paid off with a more impactful moment when the father died. I'm usually a sucker for getting the feels when folks die in movies, and I felt nothing when the bomb went off.
-The main villain felt flimsy to me and was almost non-existent, though in hindsight I realize this was by design to keep the focus on the Avengers, so it's a minor complaint. For too much of the movie I was both wondering who the villain was and if I cared. I guess I just wish I could have had my cake and eaten it too with both a start-to-finish compelling villain and the focus they had on the Avengers' internal struggles.

Pros:
-The rest of the movie was solid
-Fun action sequences
-Spider man was perfect
-Ant man becoming giant man was a great surprise
-The good guys kind of lost this one, with the team basically disbanded. I think the movie did a good job with its final consequences.
-Marvel continues to show it moes how to make movies that are FUN.
-I thought it was funny how the end of this was the opposite of the end of BVS. In BVS, mentioning a mother brought two people together in a really random way. In this, iron man learning Bucky killed his mother sparked an emotional fight and conflict, and combined with what Zemo and Black Panther were going through, really hit home the movie's themes on vengeance being a destructive force.

Currently I'd give it a B+, but I'm a tough grader and that might improve the more I think about it.

Oh yeah, and one question: At the very start, did I not hear right, or did Crossbones tell Steve that Hydra had recaptured Bucky and reprogrammed him? That left me confused much of the movie because I was expecting a bigger hydra connection, and then wondering if Crossbones and Zemo had a connection or if I'd misheard what he'd said.

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Oh yeah, and one question: At the very start, did I not hear right, or did Crossbones tell Steve that Hydra had recaptured Bucky and reprogrammed him? That left me confused much of the movie because I was expecting a bigger hydra connection, and then wondering if Crossbones and Zemo had a connection or if I'd misheard what he'd said.

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I think he was talking of the events we saw in TWS. After Steve realized that Bucky was TWS and called out his name, I think Bucky asked who he was or something like that.

That would make sense! Thanks

Am I missing something, but didn't the bad guy release 1 of the 5 winter soldiers? I thought I saw 1 of the 5 pods open and empty when Cap and Bucky entered the chamber. Didn't they only show 4 of the dead soldiers with bullets through the glass?

Maybe that was Bucky's old pod? Though I didn't notice an open one.

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Maybe that was Bucky's old pod? Though I didn't notice an open one.

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That's what I figured. I believe there were 4 packs of blood in Stark's trunk to make 4 WS + Bucky was already there.

I'm almost certian there was 5.

So what was crossbones trying to steal then? No ones talks about that?

Also when zemo orders breakfast and the lady delivers it. But he doesn't let her in and takes it at the door, the camera pans out and shows what looked to be a chamber in the other room

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I'm almost certian there was 5.

So what was crossbones trying to steal then? No ones talks about that?

Also when zemo orders breakfast and the lady delivers it. But he doesn't let her in and takes it at the door, the camera pans out and shows what looked to be a chamber in the other room

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That was the emp bomb in his room he used later to free Bucky

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So what was crossbones trying to steal then? No ones talks about that?

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It was just generic bioweapon. I thought at first it might be a vial of Banner's blood, given the other Hulk nods in the film, but they never identify it.

Thought that was pretty good. A little long with some rather poor and choppy editing in the first thirty minutes, but after that it was quite stellar. Chris Evans is definitely my favorite Avenger.

I'm a loose follower of the comics, so I had a vague notion of the comic version of this story; but I'm glad that the film stuck with the strong stance against big government. I was afraid that the end would be something like "lots of government is a good thing and only has your best interests in mind".

Giantman was spoiled by a Lego set of all things.

At the end, Zemo starts the sequence of German words again while being interrogated. Was that his way of not cooperating or was Bilbo a hidden soldier?

***Edit. My wife says I am crazy and imagining that part???***

I don't remember that either. But it sounds like a good enough excuse to see it again.

Dammit. Guess I just misunderstood... Need to see it again.

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Giantman was spoiled by a Lego set of all things.

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Ahhh, haha. That's funny. Thanks.

Also the sleeper language was Russian.

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Did everyone's movie also just start.....like outta the blue, a movie preview ended then BOOM, it just started and it never said the title of the movie until the end of the movie in the credits also no standard marvel comic reel at the start, which I thought was off.... Like watching iron man 3 now....starts off with some stuff then does the comic reel and title, then movie starts

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I think your's was broken. Mine started with the Marvel Reel. I do think several of the Marvel movies haven't shown the title till the end, which is something I never understood

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That's a thing that Christopher Nolan made popular. The idea of no intro or credits until the end of the film. He wasn't the first to do it (The Coen Brothers have done it before), but he definitely made it mainstream.

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Also the sleeper language was Russian.

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Well, it ain't Texan.