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I caught it last night and I really enjoyed it despite the mouth breathers laughing during critical parts and calling it bull ****. I guess we've become so desensitized to evil and horror that if its not torture porn, it's not scary.
I thought it a very scary movie and very well made.
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I interpreted it as Thomasina simply blaming the twins because they were blaming her. I got the impression that she never really liked them, and after Caleb died, she was basically just like "*****it" and was trying to save her own ass at that point. Then again, she genuinely did NOT want to be put in the animal pen with them, so it's hard to tell. But they all talked pretty casual with each other after that, just before the witch showed up, which is why I really do think Thomasina was just trying to convince her parents to save her own ass more than anything. And yeah, I figured the witch took them and killed them just like she killed the baby (I read in one review that the witch was using the baby fat to oil up her broom for flight - which is one of the most disturbing things I can imagine).
Finally - BP's voice will haunt me forever. Not showing him during that sequence was genius. That said, I couldn't quite tell what, exactly, put its arm around her when he kind of circled her in that scene. It sounded like leather when he moved, and I couldn't tell if he was still a goat in that moment or took on more demonic/Satan-type form.
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I thought this was one of the more disturbing movies I've seen. I wouldn't say I found it "scary" but that's not really the point - I found it a very uncomfortable experience. Not sure I could recommend this movie to most people.
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After the first witch bathed herself in the baby's blood, there was a shot of her back making what I guess were thrusting motions by a tree. What was going on there? I initially thought she was violating the corpse, but that seems like a line that even this movie wouldn't cross.
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Oh and I didn't have any trouble understanding the dialogue. Thought it was a nice touch that really added to the atmosphere.
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But it dealt with a witch that isn't real. Whether they believed it or not doesn't matter. People also used to believe in vampires.
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but I don't believe there was a covenant and that at the end more than likely the twins were also snatched up for flying broom oil.
quote:I think that the witch just uses the fat from the baby to rub on her broom... I don't remember anything like you are describing.
So if I am reading the above descriptions correctly...in this movie, a witch sodomizes a dead baby with a tree branch?
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So if I am reading the above descriptions correctly...in this movie, a witch sodomizes a dead baby with a tree branch? Or violates it in some way? When you add that to the fact that this movie was heavily endorsed and distributed by the Church of Satan, I think I'll pass. That's just too much, IMO. I could see how hipsters and liberals would love it though since it's so edgy and dark and in-your-face. To each his own.
quote:I don't know, I figured maybe because a Christian family is terrorized and murdered by agents of Satan in the movie?quote:
So if I am reading the above descriptions correctly...in this movie, a witch sodomizes a dead baby with a tree branch? Or violates it in some way? When you add that to the fact that this movie was heavily endorsed and distributed by the Church of Satan, I think I'll pass. That's just too much, IMO. I could see how hipsters and liberals would love it though since it's so edgy and dark and in-your-face. To each his own.
Why would the Church if Satan (whatever that is) endorse this movie? If anything, it showed evil as a negative.
quote:1) Nobody gets sodomized
So if I am reading the above descriptions correctly...in this movie, a witch sodomizes a dead baby with a tree branch? Or violates it in some way? When you add that to the fact that this movie was heavily endorsed and distributed by the Church of Satan, I think I'll pass. That's just too much, IMO. I could see how hipsters and liberals would love it though since it's so edgy and dark and in-your-face. To each his own.
quote:The Church of Satan is a group of atheist trolls. Congrats, you're one of the people they target with their mockery.
So if I am reading the above descriptions correctly...in this movie, a witch sodomizes a dead baby with a tree branch? Or violates it in some way? When you add that to the fact that this movie was heavily endorsed and distributed by the Church of Satan, I think I'll pass. That's just too much, IMO. I could see how hipsters and liberals would love it though since it's so edgy and dark and in-your-face. To each his own.
quote:*An unbaptized baby. That's important to the ceremony. As a liberal hipster I know this first hand.
So if I am reading the above descriptions correctly...in this movie, a witch sodomizes a dead baby with a tree branch? Or violates it in some way? When you add that to the fact that this movie was heavily endorsed and distributed by the Church of Satan, I think I'll pass. That's just too much, IMO. I could see how hipsters and liberals would love it though since it's so edgy and dark and in-your-face. To each his own.
quote:I actually am very interested in seeing this movie, but this description from another poster "She covered the branch in the baby "remains" and uhh....well was sticking it in an intimate place.", combined with the film basically partnering with the Church of Satan, had me wondering whether I should see the movie, much less financially support it. I may pay for "Risen" and sneak into this one.quote:*An unbaptized baby. That's important to the ceremony. As a liberal hipster I know this first hand.
So if I am reading the above descriptions correctly...in this movie, a witch sodomizes a dead baby with a tree branch? Or violates it in some way? When you add that to the fact that this movie was heavily endorsed and distributed by the Church of Satan, I think I'll pass. That's just too much, IMO. I could see how hipsters and liberals would love it though since it's so edgy and dark and in-your-face. To each his own.
Kidding aside, as others have said there is no baby sodomy scene, but besides that you may be doing yourself a disservice. The Witch did a really great job of not mocking or looking down on the family's rigid Christian beliefs. It could've also easily made the patriarch a cliched fire and brimstone nutcase but instead he is a resolute devout man that adores his family and tries his best in the bleak situation. And finally, if anything I believe those with a more religious background as you appear to be would get an even better experience watching it. The themes and dread of damnation are more literal to you than it would to those without that background.
Of course I have no idea why I typed all that out when you probably have no intention of ever watching it.
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Well said. He would rather sit at home and damn any of us for spending time and money to watch this movie, than to go see and experience it himself.
quote:I posted that and that description was my interpretation of the what was happening. Like I said, the scene was very ambiguous.
I actually am very interested in seeing this movie, but this description from another poster "She covered the branch in the baby "remains" and uhh....well was sticking it in an intimate place.",
quote:Same here. That would suck.
I'm glad I don't let politics run every thought in my head. Just seems miserable.
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also, the devil is such a ridiculous concept. i know i know, save it for the R&P board.
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just saw this last night. beautifully shot and well acted with a very cool, unique concept but it just left me wanting a lot more. feels like it had so much potential it didn't quite live up to for me. maybe i was looking forward to it a little too much and shouldn't have watched the trailer and read the op (still love you tctts) before viewing.
