*** MARVEL CINEMATIC UNIVERSE *** [Staff message on OP]

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Agatha might be ok, but Echo and Ironheart were just not interesting characters.
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Disney better not mess with Letterkenny
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The problem with Marvel right now is that they have been focusing on minor characters that very few people have even heard of, much less care about. There are a few exceptions (Spider-Man, Thor, Guardians, Dr. Strange) and even 2 of those were not widely known until the movies by the general population.

And with the exception of Guardians, the movies just haven't been good.

And then there's Chadwick's untimely death. RIP.
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It's still perplexing how easily they wove in Thanos in the first films and how they could have easily done the same in the Phase IV and V movies but dropped the ball.

When Strange faces off against the evil version of himself in DS2 in the ruined world, the evil Strange could have said, "Yes, I started the incursion, but HE finished the job." Our Strange says "Who's he?" and Bad Strange points to a giant statue of Kang outside or even just his name written in giant letters on a wall or something like graffiti.

Would have then been even easier in No Way Home when all the others start "coming through" at the end. Have Kang start to appear in that reality and Strange locks eyes with him and recognizes him from his own movie, then finishes the spell and "forgets" about him.

Have Zeus talk about him in Thor: Love and Thunder as the only being he really fears before whatever Christian Bale's character's name is gets the Death Sword thing.

You even could have changed the story of Namor in BP2 to be that whole civilization appeared as the result of an incursion and went to war not knowing where they were or who the Wakandans were.

if they switch to Dr. Doom at this point, they are going to have to be 100% sure that the Fantastic Four movie is lights out amazing with a phenomenal cast. You could argue that those castings will be their most important since Evans and RDJ, because if Doom sucks or the FF have a weak link, it spirals into everything going forward.


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G.I.Bro said:

Disney better not mess with Letterkenny
Gail is a Disney Princess now.
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G.I.Bro said:

Disney better not mess with Letterkenny
Define mess with. Hulu pays to stream it, but its a Canadian tv show produced by Bell Media for Crave TV. Hulu doesn't even get it upon its initial release. You don't have to worry about it
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It's still perplexing how easily they wove in Thanos in the first films and how they could have easily done the same in the Phase IV and V movies but dropped the ball.
All great ideas you posted... should have been obvious to the writers. They lost site of the overarching storyline "forest" for the individual, box checking movie "trees".

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wangus12 said:

G.I.Bro said:

Disney better not mess with Letterkenny
Define mess with. Hulu pays to stream it, but its a Canadian tv show produced by Bell Media for Crave TV. Hulu doesn't even get it upon its initial release. You don't have to worry about it


Tell the creators that now that they're under the mouse umbrella they can't make fun of so and so type people, can't make certain jokes, have to add more diverse characters, and make Katy the lead
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RDJ for secret war?
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So all they have to do is pull all of the "dead" people from a different timeline and boom, the OGs are back and Marvel is in business again.
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agdoc2001 said:



RDJ for secret war?
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I don't know what that has to do with this, but made me laugh.
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G.I.Bro said:

wangus12 said:

G.I.Bro said:

Disney better not mess with Letterkenny
Define mess with. Hulu pays to stream it, but its a Canadian tv show produced by Bell Media for Crave TV. Hulu doesn't even get it upon its initial release. You don't have to worry about it


Tell the creators that now that they're under the mouse umbrella they can't make fun of so and so type people, can't make certain jokes, have to add more diverse characters, and make Katy the lead
Maybe Katy is the lead character in season 12. Also its the Final Season so now I'm blaming you for jinxing it

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RDJ for secret war?

There was a window where I thought this Shine dude might be credible, but he's since proven to be a phony, and people are finally ignoring him more and more. I would do the same. RDJ might very well return at some point, but this guy has zero inside info as to when.
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Ever since the idiot who would put out daily Star Wars videos on YouTube that were all crap I'm skeptical of anyone like this on social media unless TC gives them the crappy captain thumbs up

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People trying to figure out what's wrong as if the MCU wasnt a gigantic exception and outlier. Isn't it just most likely that they caught lightning on a bottle and more than likely will never be able to replicate that. Entertainment is more fragmented than ever and I just don't think everyone is going to care about this one thing like they did before.
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MBAR said:

People trying to figure out what's wrong as if the MCU wasnt a gigantic exception and outlier. Isn't it just most likely that they caught lightning on a bottle and more than likely will never be able to replicate that. Entertainment is more fragmented than ever and I just don't think everyone is going to care about this one thing like they did before.
You could compare it to the Star Wars Original trilogy. Everything that has come since can't possibly live up to the first 3 movies for people who were alive during that time frame. It's hard to imagine Marvel ever being able to approach the hype and delivered expectations of everything starting around the time of The WInter Soldier to End Game

14 - Winter Soldier, GOTG
15 - Age of Ultron (the weak spot made $459 milion), Ant-Man
16 - Civil War, Doctor Strange
17 - GOTG2, Homecoming, Ragnarok, Black Panther - what franchise could ever approach that much brilliance in one year?
18 - Infinity War, Ant-man and the Wasp
19 - Captain Marvel - you thought it sucked? Cuz it still made $423 million / End-Game

That's an impossible run, nothing will ever come close to it.
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Plus, after Endgame they didn't stop to take a breath and really plan out the next phase, just kept spitting movies and shows out hoping to ride the hype.
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Echo is going to be rated "TV-MA"
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The Porkchop Express said:

MBAR said:

People trying to figure out what's wrong as if the MCU wasnt a gigantic exception and outlier. Isn't it just most likely that they caught lightning on a bottle and more than likely will never be able to replicate that. Entertainment is more fragmented than ever and I just don't think everyone is going to care about this one thing like they did before.
You could compare it to the Star Wars Original trilogy. Everything that has come since can't possibly live up to the first 3 movies for people who were alive during that time frame. It's hard to imagine Marvel ever being able to approach the hype and delivered expectations of everything starting around the time of The WInter Soldier to End Game

14 - Winter Soldier, GOTG
15 - Age of Ultron (the weak spot made $459 milion), Ant-Man
16 - Civil War, Doctor Strange
17 - GOTG2, Homecoming, Ragnarok, Black Panther - what franchise could ever approach that much brilliance in one year?
18 - Infinity War, Ant-man and the Wasp
19 - Captain Marvel - you thought it sucked? Cuz it still made $423 million / End-Game

That's an impossible run, nothing will ever come close to it.


So true, I have refused to watch any Star Wars since sitting through the abomination that was The Phantom Menace.
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TexasAggie_02 said:



Echo is going to be rated "TV-MA"
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The Porkchop Express said:

MBAR said:

People trying to figure out what's wrong as if the MCU wasnt a gigantic exception and outlier. Isn't it just most likely that they caught lightning on a bottle and more than likely will never be able to replicate that. Entertainment is more fragmented than ever and I just don't think everyone is going to care about this one thing like they did before.
You could compare it to the Star Wars Original trilogy. Everything that has come since can't possibly live up to the first 3 movies for people who were alive during that time frame. It's hard to imagine Marvel ever being able to approach the hype and delivered expectations of everything starting around the time of The WInter Soldier to End Game

14 - Winter Soldier, GOTG
15 - Age of Ultron (the weak spot made $459 milion), Ant-Man
16 - Civil War, Doctor Strange
17 - GOTG2, Homecoming, Ragnarok, Black Panther - what franchise could ever approach that much brilliance in one year?
18 - Infinity War, Ant-man and the Wasp
19 - Captain Marvel - you thought it sucked? Cuz it still made $423 million / End-Game

That's an impossible run, nothing will ever come close to it.
I think the problem is they didn't promise any over-arching story or baddie or interconnectivity fans were used to seeing with the other marvel films.

People had fun putting the puzzle pieces together, and marvel moved away from that. COVID certainly hurt. Spiderman should have come out before Eternals or Shang Chi.
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TCTTS said:

agdoc2001 said:



RDJ for secret war?

There was a window where I thought this Shine dude might be credible, but he's since proven to be a phony, and people are finally ignoring him more and more. I would do the same. RDJ might very well return at some point, but this guy has zero inside info as to when.
Got it - ton of followers so thought he might actually know something
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redline248 said:

TexasAggie_02 said:



Echo is going to be rated "TV-MA"
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ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm......

do we still think this is gonna suck? because i was NOT expecting that......
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Yeah, I remember hearing that they were dumping all the episodes at once because they thought it would bomb.

But if it's vibe is like that of the trailer, I think I'll definitely enjoy it.
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Damn that was some A level violence and blood. If there's a problem, I suspect that Kingpin is probably only in a few scenes and they spilled them all out here to hype it up. Regardless that was pretty bad ass.

And how many of us Dads have seen some adult to a jerk to our kids and wanted to go all ice cream vendor on them like that?
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Echo... might actually be good?

Great trailer, with even a hint of The Killers of the Flower Moon in there.

Damn.



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if this ends up being the "Andor" of the MCU it's going to be one of the best things to happen to the MCU since No Way Home.....
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Echo is a great comic book character. The show always had potential.
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Been wondering why The Eternals even exists. It's almost like they only made the movie to make a Clark Kent joke.
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AgfromHOU said:

Been wondering why The Eternals even exists. It's almost like they only made the movie to make a Clark Kent joke.


Clark Kent joke?

I fell asleep watching that movie. Twice. I must have missed that joke. Twice.
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AgfromHOU said:

Been wondering why The Eternals even exists. It's almost like they only made the movie to make a Clark Kent joke.
I understand the attempt. On paper it makes a lot of sense: Let's get the most recent Oscar winner to write and direct a movie about a new group that could potentially turn into our next Guardians of the Galaxy out of nowhere surprise hit. My view of it was that it tried too hard to do too much: too many characters, too much backstory, too obscure characters.
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Daredevil sighting
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100%. It's kinda cocky too - these characters have never sustained a comic book title for more than a year at a time, but let's make them into a successful blockbuster. I guess they thought they'd landed on a good enough idea.

And while the Guardians were certainly D-listers in pop culture (I had NO idea who they were when it got announced), they'd still had a comic run for multiple years in a row. Eternals were like… Z-listers.
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Noblemen06 said:

Daredevil sighting



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